Ernest Jones resigns

[FAIRTIDES]

Oy vey....(see what I did there?...) Oh good Lord, the evolution thing. Of all the kookiness that can exist in our society in 2014, that's one of the kookiest.

Thanks for you response. I do appreciate it.
I'm not a lawyer, and don't care to be trained to think like one. I'll continue to think about things they way I please and opine on them as well - thank you very much. ;-)

I do appreciate you putting this thing to task like you did.

This Jones matter, I agree completely, is not an Establishment Clause issue. I understand now, that it is not.

I stand by my opinion that the university handled the situation poorly in public.

When I first read the coach's quote my initial thought was, He didn't really say that. Oh sh't, the communications technology at UCONN is about to be stressed. Not because I advocate either way, but because experience has shown how damaging "hot-button" (pain-in-the-ass) issues have become.

Carl, she had absolutely no choice. As soon as the the "letter" was published, she was in danger of losing control to the whack jobs who lurk at the fringes and take delight in blowing this type of thing out of proportion. From a PR standpoint, UCONN was not in need of another "advocate(s)" war by Press Conference. She handled it perfectly. Without being defensive, she reiterated UCONN's stated policy of being welcoming to all who wish to practice any religion while confirming that no religious beliefs will be forced on anyone. Period! Nuff said.

It seems to have worked out. I've seen nothing on the news or Page 1 of Yahoo. The story's only legs seem to be this "thread." Sometimes, the PR people know what they are talking about.

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

When I first read the coach's quote my initial thought was, He didn't really say that. Oh sh't, the communications technology at UCONN is about to be stressed. Not because I advocate either way, but because experience has shown how damaging "hot-button" (pain-in-the-ass) issues have become.

Carl, she had absolutely no choice. As soon as the the "letter" was published, she was in danger of losing control to the whack jobs who lurk at the fringes and take delight in blowing this type of thing out of proportion. From a PR standpoint, UCONN was not in need of another "advocate(s)" war by Press Conference. She handled it perfectly. Without being defensive, she reiterated UCONN's stated policy of being welcoming to all who wish to practice any religion while confirming that no religious beliefs will be forced on anyone. Period! Nuff said.

It seems to have worked out. I've seen nothing on the news or Page 1 of Yahoo. The story's only legs seem to be this "thread." Sometimes, the PR people know what they are talking about.

I'm going to do something I don't advise anyone at home to ever try. I'm gonna try to speak for Spackler. Because I don't think people are understanding what we're saying. I keep seeing strawman after strawman.

I don't think Carl believes in organized religion. I sure as heck don't, so I have no dog in this fight. But I think the Jesus in the huddle is a hot button topic because people choose to make it a hot button topic. The reason why the MD game move was not a hot button topic is because for the most part nobody made it one. Nobody is going to take on the state university for making accomodations for a minority religion. You will never convince me, that had UConn requested a special start time to accomodate the Christian faith, that there would not be a similar type outrage and letters to the editor at the Courant.

What I think that Carl is saying (and I would agree with him), is the state university should not be in the business of advocating, accomodating, endorsing, or anything else any religion period. Be consistent. That's all.

 

[Marty Jackson]

I'm going to do something I don't advise anyone at home to ever try. I'm gonna try to speak for Spackler. Because I don't think people are understanding what we're saying. I keep seeing strawman after strawman.

I don't think Carl believes in organized religion. I sure as heck don't, so I have no dog in this fight. But I think the Jesus in the huddle is a hot button topic because people choose to make it a hot button topic. The reason why the MD game move was not a hot button topic is because for the most part nobody made it one. Nobody is going to take on the state university for making accomodations for a minority religion. You will never convince me, that had UConn requested a special start time to accomodate the Christian faith, that there would not be a similar type outrage and letters to the editor at the Courant.

What I think that Carl is saying (and I would agree with him), is the state university should not be in the business of advocating, accomodating, endorsing, or anything else any religion period. Be consistent. That's all.

you're in a lifeboat with Carl Spackler... And we're all the crazy ones...

The reason nobody made a big deal about the MD game being moved is possibly..... BECAUSE IT WASN'T A BIG DEAL!!!!!!! It was as you say above, an accomodation... Uconn makes those accomodations all the time. Some are made in advance such that they don't need to be re-scheduled. What you are trying to do is contrast that accomodation by the school with their strong stance against what the coach said... And what he said was that all his players, regardless of their belief system would know Jesus is in the huddle. Suggesting some level of inconsistency by Uconn because of the different positions is just wrong. It is wrong because those instances are not at all the same.

Making up a hypothetical about Uconn accomodating the Christian faith and causing an uproar is just dumb. It won't happen because the schedulers are well aware of when the christian holidays are. So the bowl games originally scheduled for Dec. 25th were rescheduled for Dec. 24 and 26th. And wow, no uproar.

Who would have thought ESPN was not only screwing Uconn, but also pushing a christian agenda by not scheduling bowls on Christmas day.

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

you're in a lifeboat with Carl Spackler... And we're all the crazy ones...

The reason nobody made a big deal about the MD game being moved is possibly..... BECAUSE IT WASN'T A BIG DEAL!!!!!!! It was as you say above, an accomodation... Uconn makes those accomodations all the time. Some are made in advance such that they don't need to be re-scheduled. What you are trying to do is contrast that accomodation by the school with their strong stance against what the coach said... And what he said was that all his players, regardless of their belief system would know Jesus is in the huddle. Suggesting some level of inconsistency by Uconn because of the different positions is just wrong. It is wrong because those instances are not at all the same.

Making up a hypothetical about Uconn accomodating the Christian faith and causing an uproar is just dumb. It won't happen because the schedulers are well aware of when the christian holidays are. So the bowl games originally scheduled for Dec. 25th were rescheduled for Dec. 24 and 26th. And wow, no uproar.

Who would have thought ESPN was not only screwing Uconn, but also pushing a christian agenda by not scheduling bowls on Christmas day.

Why are you so angry about everything? We disagree. .

 

[tiger8mush]

Who would have thought ESPN was not only screwing Uconn, but also pushing a christian agenda by not scheduling bowls on Christmas day.

I believe ESPN runs NBA games on Dec 25 and chooses to make that their moneymaker. I think its about $$$ as to why there are no bowl games on Dec25.

 

[HuskyDogArt]

Woah...

Desmond Conner ‏@desmondconner 3m
Ernest Jones resigns As UConn Football Assistant http://courantblogs.com/uconn-football/ernest-jones-resigns-as-uconn-football-assistant/…

I think just because he is a religious man, him resigning is STUPID. As I said in a political site, if you can't say anything about our savior, who will stand up for your freedom of speech.

 

[HuskyDogArt]

I would respect him greatly if that is the case (and I thought his Jesus in the huddle comments were a huge mistake). Would show he feels so strongly about his statement that he will go to a school that would allow him to state that.

I think his Jesus in the huddle statement is non-PC in the PC state of Connecticut. If you can't talk about who will decide if Geno or Kevin or Bob say something that is non-PC?

Should BD hire a nonreligious person or how about him hiring a Muslim anti-American? At least UConn won't have to hear 'Jesus in the huddle' statements.

Support Free Speech for all!!!

 

[HuskyDogArt]

Why don't you understand why he should keep religion out of the workplace?

Why should he keep quiet about Jesus. USF football coach talks about Jesus every interview! USF is a state institution. Of course it is in Florida.

 

[Marty Jackson]

Why are you so angry about everything? We disagree. .

not angry... sensitive to your suggesting that what uconn did in moving the MD game to accommodate the Jews celebrating Yom Kippur was similar to a coach suggesting that his players will know regardless of religious beliefs.

you can tell me the earth is flat and that we disagree on that as well. You're still wrong.

 

[Marty Jackson]

I think just because he is a religious man, him resigning is STUPID. As I said in a political site, if you can't say anything about our savior, who will stand up for your freedom of speech.

who brought the cool kid?

 

[HuskyDogArt]

Why do you hate America?

He does? The northeast - along with the Pacific Coast states are the most anti-religious (and anti-Constitution) part of the US. I'm not religious, but Jesus is my co-pilot.

What Coach Jones said is only bad in the blue areas of the US. Should be ban every state employee who is a Christian? Maybe Mallory and the Libs in Hartford could ban Christians from Connecticut. Cuomo is forcing Conservatives to move, so I guess Libs - the tolerant people would links that.

 

[HuskyDogArt]

Because it's Connecticut. This wouldn't be an issue at Texas, Alabama or many other schools. In Connecticut? It is.

As I said in my original post, the vetting/hiring process failed.

Typical, Willie Tag art the USF coach talks freely about Jesus and so does the players. Even when they interview high school players most talk about Jesus helping them. Only in the liberal New England would a liberal in West Hartford, I bet who lives in a Million dollar house, could force a football coach to resign. Here, the school would tell the *itch to shut up.

 

[HuskyDogArt]

I hear ya, but it's out of our control at this point. To argue about Allah, Herbst's response, possible reasons behind Jones' reasons, the personality of people in New England, the personality of people in the "Deep South", Evangelists vs. other Protestants, football prayer vs. basketball prayer, and whether or not Kevin Ollie is not bothered because Calhoun picked him....it's all not worth it. It's really not.

In Diaco We Trust....and I trust that he will find a replacement RB coach that will be excellent and that will hold a high standard of morality for all of the young men to follow...

If Disco brought in Tony Dungy, libs in Connecticut would force Tony to resign and Tony talks about Jesus in all interviews,

 

[MilliniumPrince]

Trolling for dollars

 

[HuskyDogArt]

You can keep up the demogouging all you want. I've stated repeatedly that I believe in no God. I pretty much think organized religion in all forms is pretty much a joke.

If you don't believe in GOD, do you think the universe was create by a 'big bang'? Now, I'm not an expert on either religion or the creation of the universe, and as I said before, I'm not religious, but I do believe there is a higher power. And it is NOT the person in the White House.

 

[TRest]

I think we have officially reached bottom. Lock it please.