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caw said:
I wouldn't worry to much about scoring averages if I were him, any decent NBA scout would factor in the injury the first game and basically take it out of the equation in terms of stats. Of course the fact he has dealt with concussions multiple times might bare negatively on his evaluation.
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Ignoring the first game brings him up to 13.2PPG on 41% FG and 39% 3P

Certainly looks a lot better, crazy what just 1 omitted game can do :)
 
The only thing limiting Hawkins right now is using his hands too much on defense in obvious spots in front of refs.
 
jibsey said:
He ain’t ready.
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Yahoo has him going to the Pacers late in the first round.

Sports Illustrated has him going to the Magic early in the second round.

He better get ready in a hurry. BTW, the NBA combine will probably affect his draft status more than his sophomore season.
 
I’m not putting the cart before the horse just yet with Hawk. I do agree with some of the previous posts. My friends and I are big fans and chomping at the bit for him to become the GUY. It feels like he was ready to come out aggressive from the gate but with injuries and foul trouble his start has been inconsistent. On the other hand if he was averaging somewhere around 19/20 ppg out the gate I’d be waving goodbye at the end of the season. Not to say it can’t happen or he won’t pick it up hopefully by the end of the season we can lean on him to take us to the promise land.
 
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3rdbass said:
Jordan Hawkins is nasty! Enjoy him while you can as long as he stays healthy. He could be gone this year. I know the competition wasn't great but his game is definitely more refined. I was really impressed with his D and his tighter dribble. Him and Jackson's defense really changed the game.
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I was wondering who was going to be the first one to start that type of thread ??
 
jibsey said:
He ain’t ready.
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I would like to clarify. He could be ready by season end. His defense looks good except for the hand checking fouls and I love to see some mid range pull ups and aggressive moves to the rim to go along with the 3’s. Richard Hamilton was a moving machine when he did not have the ball which freed him up, he had that motor. Hawk needs to show some of that but if he averages like 12 points a game does he go in the first round?
 
jibsey said:
I would like to clarify. He could be ready by season end. His defense looks good except for the hand checking fouls and I love to see some mid range pull ups and aggressive moves to the rim to go along with the 3’s. Richard Hamilton was a moving machine when he did not have the ball which freed him up, he had that motor. Hawk needs to show some of that but if he averages like 12 points a game does he go in the first round?
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I agree. I hate the analogy of the ball is on the tee but I think it fits here with Hawkins this year. He has to avoid injuries, get his points each game, and put together some special highlight things this year in order to jump up to a lottery pick. He’s got the tools and the supporting cast. People can argue that he could be a lottery based on potential but IMO he’s got to help himself with showing off that potential and can’t afford a quiet season. I will enjoy watching him this year. Seems like a pretty decent kid.
 
jibsey said:
I would like to clarify. He could be ready by season end. His defense looks good except for the hand checking fouls and I love to see some mid range pull ups and aggressive moves to the rim to go along with the 3’s. Richard Hamilton was a moving machine when he did not have the ball which freed him up, he had that motor. Hawk needs to show some of that but if he averages like 12 points a game does he go in the first round?
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12ppg or 20ppg isn't really going to be the biggest factor that affects his draft status. Defense and shooting %. If he can average 40% from 3 on 12ppg with the amount of attempts he's been taking, he's gone.
 
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We won’t know until the tournaments. Hell Stix could’ve been a first rounder after the tournament in 2009. Jeremy Lamb got lottery noise in 2011 because of his play.

So this early season stuff doesn’t matter much. When he’s had games he’s actually played in he’s scored an effortless 15 points anyways. Don’t let him start off hot, he’ll drop an easy 30.
 
auror said:
The only thing limiting Hawkins right now is using his hands too much on defense in obvious spots in front of refs.
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Agree. He also gets in his head when things don’t go his way. Against Iowa State Hurley tried to get him started with early looks. I wonder if it would be better to run those, maybe, six possessions in, so that he has an opportunity to get into the flow of the game before shooting.
 
I've completely changed my POV on Hawkins. He has a very quick and NBA ready shot. His % will go up as he gains more confidence. He has the game for the NBA. He also finishes well around the rim, hits free throws, etc.
 
UofCT said:
I've completely changed my POV on Hawkins. He has a very quick and NBA ready shot. His % will go up as he gains more confidence. He has the game for the NBA. He also finishes well around the rim, hits free throws, etc.
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He doesn’t finish well consistently at all around the rim. He has had some beauties but he’s had a bunch of weak efforts as well. This seems to be for now, the weakest part of his game. Needs to get the shooting percentage back up too and I think he will.
 
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Just having fun here - if none of our “big 3” get drafted then our lineup next year is just stupidly unfair.

PG - Castle/Diarra
SG - Hawkins/Ball
SF - Andre/Stewart/Ross
PF - Karaban/Samson
C - Sanogo/Clingan/Singare
 
CL82 said:
Agree. He also gets in his head when things don’t go his way. Against Iowa State Hurley tried to get him started with early looks. I wonder if it would be better to run those, maybe, six possessions in, so that he has an opportunity to get into the flow of the game before shooting.
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I couldn’t disagree more with this. I stated earlier that his biggest improvement has been his confidence and not getting down on himself. Last year you could see him with his head down and he became almost useless when he got in that mode. This year he has red in his eyes and will continue shooting even if he misses his first 9 shots, without any hesitation too. That is an absolutely very difficult thing to teach, and you can clearly see that he has embraced that he is the most talented on the team and that he has the ultimate green light no matter what. Hopefully this translates well to the NBA.
 
REB1094 said:
Just having fun here - if none of our “big 3” get drafted then our lineup next year is just stupidly unfair.
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i think AJ is the only one of the big3 with a shot at coming back, and if not we have to hit the portal for a starting wing. i'm also worried about Samson. He was supposed to be the starting PF until he got hurt but given karaban's play i'll be surprised if he reclaims that spot. unfortunately i'll be even more surprised if he agrees to come off the bench as a junior...

Castle-Diarra
???- Ball
Stewart-Ross
Karaban-Hasson
Clingan-Singare
 
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REB1094 said:
Just having fun here - if none of our “big 3” get drafted then our lineup next year is just stupidly unfair.

PG - Castle/Diarra
SG - Hawkins/Ball
SF - Andre/Stewart/Ross
PF - Karaban/Samson
C - Sanogo/Clingan/Singare
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Just having fun here.. Assumption is that Newton and Alleyne will not use their extra year??
 
Terrific insights here. And with real conviction by some. Who knew so many NBA scouts and executives post on the Boneyard?
 
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RayRay said:
I couldn’t disagree more with this. I stated earlier that his biggest improvement has been his confidence and not getting down on himself. Last year you could see him with his head down and he became almost useless when he got in that mode. This year he has red in his eyes and will continue shooting even if he misses his first 9 shots, without any hesitation too. That is an absolutely very difficult thing to teach, and you can clearly see that he has embraced that he is the most talented on the team and that he has the ultimate green light no matter what. Hopefully this translates well to the NBA.
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I like your take better, so I hope you’re right.
 
mauconnfan said:
He doesn’t finish well consistently at all around the rim. He has had some beauties but he’s had a bunch of weak efforts as well. This seems to be for now, the weakest part of his game. Needs to get the shooting percentage back up too and I think he will.
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He had a very nice finish in the Bama game and his only bucket in the Iowa St game was a good take. He’s a shooter first second and third but he has driven the ball better this year without all the turnovers we saw last season. Imo
 
bendm said:
i think AJ is the only one of the big3 with a shot at coming back, and if not we have to hit the portal for a starting wing. i'm also worried about Samson. He was supposed to be the starting PF until he got hurt but given karaban's play i'll be surprised if he reclaims that spot. unfortunately i'll be even more surprised if he agrees to come off the bench as a junior...

Castle-Diarra
???- Ball
Stewart-Ross
Karaban-Hasson
Clingan-Singare
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Stewart can start as a freshman imo.
 
The best ability is availability. He has to ensure he's on the court 25+ min a game
 
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