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Dom Amore: If Big 12 calls, UConn will have to choose between Big East love and Power Five money.

Hogoff said:
From what I can tell it has nothing to do with the league and has everything to do with coaching.

Boston College - I may not be old enough to remember when they were good. Who have they had coaching after the move?

Syracuse - The older and more out of touch JB got the worse his team got.

Pitt - Dixon left to go to TCU.

Louisville - Petino

Cincinnati - They did pretty well both in the AAC and Big East.

And then there is Rutgers. No further explanation needed.
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Rutgers is actually the one exception. 9 seasons in the B1G. 7 with Steve Pikiell. Now 4 straight winning seasons. Ya really gotta give Steve Pikiell credit for the job he's doing.
 
August_West said:
Omg no one in big East is getting a better offer than us. Ever. That’s the beauty of big East. If nova was attractive they would already be in this conversation.
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That's one hell of an argument. We should stay in the Big East because no other member of the conference is attractive to other conferences.
 
AntG168 said:
PC, Seton Hall, Butler, St John’s, DePaul will never be our peers or true final four contenders. If we leave the big east. What is it exactly? J Wright is GONE
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all those teams have more final fours and better hoops success than 2/3 of big 12
 
FfldCntyFan said:
That's one hell of an argument. We should stay in the Big East because no other member of the conference is attractive to other conferences.
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It’s true isn’t it?
 
Kolumbo said:
Rutgers is actually the one exception. 9 seasons in the B1G. 7 with Steve Pikiell. Now 4 straight winning seasons. Ya really gotta give Steve Pikiell credit for the job he's doing.
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The are in B1G not Lil12 , even a blind squirrel can find an acorn in B1G. I’d leave BigEast tonight for B1G
 
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August_West said:
Cool. There are 3 teams there that are not flashes. Kansas with Self, Baylor with Drew, and Houston with Sampson. All the rest are Providence lite. K state, Cinci (lol Kobe) TCU (what?) Iowa State (who?) OK state (wait what? ) are zilch in the BBall landscape. Keep me with Pitino, Smart, McDermott, Miller, Cooley, Matta, et.al.

I may not know football enough, but I KNOW basketball. Big East is a better conference over next 8 years all things being equal on a hoops floor. and thats before we even talk about why its better to be in the Northeast.
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You seem to conveniently leave out the dollar difference between the Big East and the Big 12. It’s not insignificant. And yes, our basketball program can flourish in the Big 12. We’ll have more nationally relevant games and the competition will be very good, even if you won’t be in attendance.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
I could well be wrong but the way I see it you can count on one hand the BE schools that actually matter to us.

We can schedule PC, Nova and anybtwo or three other BE schools, whoever else you believe is important, to long term series as non-conference opponents.
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Did we schedule pc in AAC?
 
aburks41 said:
Yeah, like 40 years ago lmao. Meanwhile the B12 had 2 of the past tournament winners, and a runner-up the year prior.
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Butler has a better record in final fours than every B12 team not named kansas in the last 15 years
 
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People have been saying that we can't compete if we're not P5 because of the financial difference for 12 years now. And yet here we are.

Murphy's tweet spelled it out, but nobody wants to listen. Basketball is our athletic department's crown jewel, in a state that has no major professional sports teams. To weaken that just to try to prop up football would be an enormous mistake.
 
uconnric said:
You seem to conveniently leave out the dollar difference between the Big East and the Big 12. It’s not insignificant. And yes, our basketball program can flourish in the Big 12. We’ll have more nationally relevant games and the competition will be very good, even if you won’t be in attendance.
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You give fair weather Connecticut fans (which is, what? well over half of their fanbase?) way too much credit.

ZOINKS! HONEY GRAB YER KEYZ IT'S IOWA STATE!
 
August_West said:
Thats been proven too. Im supposed to get excited about UCF and Cincinatti and Houston coming back to XL? Texas tech? TCU? Iowa State?
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Seton Hall, DePaul, St. John’s, Creighton, Georgetown, Marquette, Butler (I actually had to edit my post to add Butler…they are so boring and dreadful I actually forgot they were in our conference) get your blood pumping? How about that November barn burner with Sacred Heart in football or having to play UMass every year! And b.s. you aren’t trying to kill football: you are turning down $300M, annual games against teams who actually compete for National titles, and access to playoff money, for what precisely? The Big10? You are out of your mind if you think the Big10 even has our number. Oregon can’t get in and they’ve been consistently excellent at football and have the full backing of Phil Knight.

I think part of why you are so animated is you know you are wrong, and you know the school will take the Big12 in a heartbeat, so you are just churning and trying to make the Big East more than what it was ever intended to be: a bridge. If Providence is as important as you are making them out to be, squeeze them in as a breather between a gauntlet of Top 10 games and our yearly trip to Allen.
 
TheRealKBuks said:
Your either missing the point or I'm not being clear enough.

For the current football team to succeed we would need to join a power conference.

Joining a power conference like the big 12 will damage our basketball product in the exact same way the AAC did.

Same as the ACC did to cuse, Pitt, BC and they are less of an outlier than we would be in the big 12.

WV Bball has been consistent but can't sniff a final four since joining the big 12.

Name a team that has left the big east and their basketball team improved? Miami? It's a short list
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But, aren't we are better basketball program than those other schools? I resent the comparison, actually.
 
August_West said:
all those teams have more final fours and better hoops success than 2/3 of big 12
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I'll play. Leaving us out of it, let's compare school by school the remainder of each conference in terms of final four appearances.
 
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August_West said:
Did we schedule pc in AAC?
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We could have. I have no idea why we did or did not schedule who we did and neglect who we did not schedule. Is playing PC really that important to you?

I'm having a flashback from four decades ago listening to griping that we aren't playing all of our former Yankee Conference rivals every year.
 
CTFAN4LIFE said:
But, aren't we are better basketball program than those other schools? I resent the comparison, actually.
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This was our attitude as we marched to the bottom of aac. Resent it all you want. We are flying high off a national title but lets accept the vulnerabilities of this program. We need the Big East as much as the Big East needs us.
 
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August_West said:
Yeah, admittedly I don’t care about that. Neither should you or anyone else not figuring how to field a team
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That's a pretty ridiculous stance to take given that the university president was just publicly pissing and moaning about things as inane as bus rental costs and popcorn revenue playing games at the Civic center.
 
aburks41 said:
Well that’s just not true. Butler is 2-2 with no rings in the past 15 years. Baylor is 2-0 with a ring. “Get some facts, then come back and see me”
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So butler has been to more title games than Baylor?
 
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TheRealKBuks said:
Your either missing the point or I'm not being clear enough.

For the current football team to succeed we would need to join a power conference.

Joining a power conference like the big 12 will damage our basketball product in the exact same way the AAC did.

Same as the ACC did to cuse, Pitt, BC and they are less of an outlier than we would be in the big 12.

WV Bball has been consistent but can't sniff a final four since joining the big 12.

Name a team that has left the big east and their basketball team improved? Miami? It's a short list
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The more these threads go on, the more I'm seeing we might be big time basketball fans but we're not a big time athletics fan base.
 
TheRealKBuks said:
This was our attitude as we marched to the bottom of aac. Resent it all you want. We are flying high off a national title but lets accept the vulnerabilities of this program. We need the Big East as much as the Big East needs us.
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So you're basically saying we can't be successful in any P6 conference not named the Big East?
 
How many football titles does big12 have in about 30 years? Let’s do it this way for my friends here.
 
August_West said:
How many football titles does big12 have in about 30 years? Let’s do it this way for my friends here.
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The just had a school in the national title game, something half of the non-UConn BE schools have never done in men's basketball.
 
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