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Dom Amore: If Big 12 calls, UConn will have to choose between Big East love and Power Five money.

August_West said:
August_West said:
Cool. There are 3 teams there that are not flashes. Kansas with Self, Baylor with Drew, and Houston with Sampson. All the rest are Providence lite. K state, Cinci (lol Kobe) TCU (what?) Iowa State (who?) OK state (wait what? ) are zilch in the BBall landscape. Keep me with Pitino, Smart, McDermott, Miller, Cooley, Matta, et.al.

I may not know football enough, but I KNOW basketball. Big East is a better conference over next 8 years all things being equal on a hoops floor. and thats before we even talk about why its better to be in the Northeast.
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Half the big east is in the Midwest! Lol.
 
August_West said:
Cool. There are 3 teams there that are not flashes. Kansas with Self, Baylor with Drew, and Houston with Sampson. All the rest are Providence lite. K state, Cinci (lol Kobe) TCU (what?) Iowa State (who?) OK state (wait what? ) are zilch in the BBall landscape. Keep me with Pitino, Smart, McDermott, Miller, Cooley, Matta, et.al.

I may not know football enough, but I KNOW basketball. Big East is a better conference over next 8 years all things being equal on a hoops floor. and thats before we even talk about why its better to be in the Northeast.
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You actually believe that you can defend a claim that PC is better than Kansas St, Oklahoma St and Iowa St as a basketball program? You did refer to them as PC lite.

You pick the time frame that you believe is most appropriate to judge basketball programs and I will gladly debate you on this topic.
 
metsfan2323 said:
and we get an additional 30 million in tv revenue and football ticket sales per year to boot.

This debate is over. Not taking the offer would be dumbest business decision in the history of the school.
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The problem is you are fighting a fight that we lost 12 years ago. It's not the same any longer. The whole landscape on what it means to be in a P5 conference has changed. USC? UCLA? Texas? Oklahoma? they aint in their conferences any longer. Get on the current playing field.

We were the historically the poster child for being the school that got screwed the worst by CR. Cant argue with that, its true. If we were smart now we should be the poster child of the school who flips the bird at after though invites while we continue to blaze a new trail .
 
FfldCntyFan said:
You actually believe that you can defend a claim that PC is better than Kansas St, Oklahoma St and Iowa St as a basketball program? You did refer to them as PC lite.

You pick the time frame that you believe is most appropriate to judge basketball programs and I will gladly debate you on this topic.
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Absolutely. It absolutely is. LOL Iowa State. Id rather play PC every day of the week.
 
August_West said:
The problem is you are fighting a fight that we lost 12 years ago. It's not the same any longer. The whole landscape on what it means to be in a P5 conference has changed. USC? UCLA? Texas? Oklahoma? they aint in their conferences any longer. Get on the current playing field.

We were the historically the poster child for being the school that got screwed the worst by CR. Cant argue with that, its true. If we were smart now we should be the poster child of the school who flips the bird at after though invites while we continue to blaze a new trail .
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Weak argument. I take it that if you ever got bit by a dog you would never go outside again.'

Your post is further evidence that the debate is over.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
You actually believe that you can defend a claim that PC is better than Kansas St, Oklahoma St and Iowa St as a basketball program? You did refer to them as PC lite.

You pick the time frame that you believe is most appropriate to judge basketball programs and I will gladly debate you on this topic.
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Not speaking for anyone but myself, but I prefer Providence as a conference mate way more than those other three. I know dozens of Providence alums in real life. To my knowledge, I've never met an alum from the other three.

Rivalries mean something. That value is independent somewhat from just the raw state of a program.
 
metsfan2323 said:
Weak argument. I take it that if you ever got bit by a dog you would never go outside again.'

Your post is further evidence that the debate is over.
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Nah. You might be surprised at where the debate actually lies right now with the people who matter.
 
August_West said:
How many B12 schools within 200 miles of CT?

Do math for me here.
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Again, were talking maybe 6 additional longer trips a year for men's basketball. Do they not take a plane cross country to play in Omaha Nebraska?
 
August_West said:
Nah. You might be surprised at where the debate actually lies right now with the people who matter.
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'Then the school is being run by a bunch of cowards who should resign and go home to their mommy.

and of course they would use student fees to fund their trip home.
 
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August_West said:
If the mommy is in the Northeast I agree.
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For a guy who is famously critical of conference realignment discussions, you are beating the crap out of this dead horse.

Maybe both sides of this argument can put it on hold until we actually get an offer?
 
noeynox said:
When we were in the Big East FB success impeded the BB program? How?
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Your either missing the point or I'm not being clear enough.

For the current football team to succeed we would need to join a power conference.

Joining a power conference like the big 12 will damage our basketball product in the exact same way the AAC did.

Same as the ACC did to cuse, Pitt, BC and they are less of an outlier than we would be in the big 12.

WV Bball has been consistent but can't sniff a final four since joining the big 12.

Name a team that has left the big east and their basketball team improved? Miami? It's a short list
 
metsfan2323 said:
and we get an additional 30 million in tv revenue and football ticket sales per year to boot.

This debate is over. Not accepting a B12 invitation would be the dumbest business decision in the history of the school.
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You should be a Syracuse fan celebrating conference dollars. We celebrate championships here.
 
CL82 said:
For a guy who is famously critical of conference realignment discussions, you are beating the crap out of this dead horse.

Maybe both sides of this argument can put it on hold until we actually get an offer?
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It’s the off season and this is mental.

But if you prefer, I’m at Arby’s right now

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August_West said:
We play 10 league road games a year.
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Right? And the team is already flying to Nebraska, Illinois, Indiana, Wisconsin and Ohio for half our league games. It's not that much different than West Virginia, Ohio, Kansas x2, and Iowa.

So the 5 games against PC, St. John's, Hall, Nova and Georgetown become long flights, which isn't great but for an extra $40M a year and running a legitimate football program it's worth it. No question.
 
TheRealKBuks said:
Your either missing the point or I'm not being clear enough.

For the current football team to succeed we would need to join a power conference.

Joining a power conference like the big 12 will damage our basketball product in the exact same way the AAC did.

Same as the ACC did to cuse, Pitt, BC and they are less of an outlier than we would be in the big 12.

WV Bball has been consistent but can't sniff a final four since joining the big 12.

Name a team that has left the big east and their basketball team improved? Miami? It's a short list
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Ah i see. I maintain it doesn't have to be like that. Hurley was quoted during an interview following the natty, that they would have had that success regardless of conference. The interviewer was suggesting the Natty was as a result of rejoining the BE. Dan Hurley himself said they were going to have that success regardless of what leauge they were in. If i knew we were going to be having this discussion a month and a half later i would have bookmarked it. I believe UConn is different than those schools when it comes to hoops.
 
August_West said:
Exactly. Now do the rest
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Oklahoma St at Gampel was pretty fun. I’d assume Nowell and KState would’ve been fun too. We played Iowa state and it was……you got it fun. If top 25 ranked teams are coming into Gampel it will be fun. It doesn’t matter if they’re from east bumba. One of the most fun times I’ve had at a game was Houston at Gampel for senior night. The place was a madhouse
 

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