Developing Jay Stewart in game might be reasonable

[HuskyHawk]

Let me bring to the table one more reason to play Stewart or Ross a few minutes. Donovan may miss some time. Will we run with just 7?

It's not just the numbers, it's that there are two guys who aren't guards. Castle is strong enough to be a SF, but despite our tall guards, we lack a lot of size in the front court. So if they don't play Singare, they almost have to at least play Stewart, Ross or Roumoglou.

 

[uconnfan68]

In two years I hope someone re-opens this thread and I can point fingers at all the mouthbreathers who think they know better than our exceptional coaching staff. It's laughable.

So, it's your opinion the coaching staff did an exceptional job last night? Not sure even they'd agree.

 

[SeattleHoop]

So, it's your opinion the coaching staff did an exceptional job last night? Not sure even they'd agree.

Every fan base of every college or pro team in the entire world praises they’re team when they win and criticizes they’re team when they lose.

The idea that fans think they know better than the staff because they have criticisms or point things out is actually one of the most ridiculous and unrealistic takes on this board.

 

[uconnfan68]

Every fan base of every college or pro team in the entire world praises they’re team when they win and criticizes they’re team when they lose.

The idea that fans think they know better than the staff because they have criticisms or point things out is actually one of the most ridiculous and unrealistic takes on this board.

The idea that everyone thinks the coaches are the most intelligent people around is the problem. There are a lot of smart people that don't coach, but still understand and appreciate the game.

 

[navery12]

The idea that everyone thinks the coaches are the most intelligent people around is the problem. There are a lot of smart people that don't coach, but still understand and appreciate the game.

And those people, while very intelligent about the game of basketball, are nowhere near the intelligence of D1 basketball head coaches

 

[HooperScooper]

The idea that fans think they know better than the staff because they have criticisms or point things out is actually one of the most ridiculous and unrealistic takes on this board.

In general I agree with you, but coaches aren't right 100% of the time. Hurley has admitted many times that he made a mistake with decision making or personnel moves. Nobody is 100% infallible.

 

[uconnfan68]

And those people, while very intelligent about the game of basketball, are nowhere near the intelligence of D1 basketball head coaches

It’s not rocket science. It’s a game. Coaches are rarely better than their players.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

In two years I hope someone re-opens this thread and I can point fingers at all the mouthbreathers who think they know better than our exceptional coaching staff. It's laughable.

In the simplest terms:

If we knew the entirety of the reasons Dan Hurley is giving players the PT they are receiving we could logically discuss the potential errors in what he is doing. As we don't know what is behind it, saying "it's a lost cause anyway so let's see what they can do" is not a valid argument.

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

Let me bring to the table one more reason to play Stewart or Ross a few minutes. Donovan may miss some time. Will we run with just 7?

Not if Clingan's absence is extended. I brought this up in my very long post before yours. If that's the situation, adjustments will be made. The WBB team has had to deeply reimagine itself 3 years in a row now. Hurley can probably consult with Geno on the subject.

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

So, it's your opinion the coaching staff did an exceptional job last night? Not sure even they'd agree.

I'll bet heavily that his answer is No. Then again, he made no such claim whatsoever. That's your concoction. I deeply doubt the coaching staff thinks they did an exceptional job; Hurley even said so in the post-game interview.

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

The idea that fans think they know better than the staff because they have criticisms or point things out is actually one of the most ridiculous and unrealistic takes on this board.

Except that nobody other than you is putting forth that exact idea.

The idea that everyone thinks the coaches are the most intelligent people around is the problem. There are a lot of smart people that don't coach, but still understand and appreciate the game.

Except that nobody other than you is putting forth that exact idea.

And those people, while very intelligent about the game of basketball, are nowhere near the intelligence of D1 basketball head coaches

Except that nobody other than you is putting forth that exact idea.

In general I agree with you, but coaches aren't right 100% of the time. Hurley has admitted many times that he made a mistake with decision making or personnel moves. Nobody is 100% infallible.

As written, the point you are commenting on might pair with what you're saying, but I think he intended something nearly opposite to what you are addressing.

It’s not rocket science. It’s a game. Coaches are rarely better than their players.

Better at what?

I've bunched these together because pretty regularly posters offer passionate arguments that forcefully rebut arguments that haven't been made, and do so by jumping to conclusions that aren't really there to be made.

A lot of points that are on a similar subject are not related to the same aspect of that subject. Or if they were plotted on an extremity continuum, they'd mismatch extremities in addition to misunderstanding the point of view.

I don't think any of this is so much a case of lack of comprehension as much as it's a lack of attention & consideration. It probably reveals where emotions cloud critical thinking. I also don't think my writing will result in much movement toward better communication.

It does, however, appear to be easier to defeat an argument that isn't being made.

 

[uconnfan68]

Better at what? Great teams don’t usually have bad coaches, and great coaches usually don’t have bad teams.

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

Better at what? Great teams don’t usually have bad coaches, and great coaches usually don’t have bad teams.

What's written above does not make sense to me. Perhaps I was unclear, so I'll try again. You wrote the following:

Coaches are rarely better than their players.

"At what" are coaches rarely better than their players?

Are coaches rarely better free throw shooters than their players?
Are coaches rarely better dribblers than their players?
Are coaches rarely better dunkers than their players?

If that's what you meant, I'm inclined to agree, and don't see any controversy to such ideas. But I also don't see any relevance to this this thread.

Are you saying that coaches are rarely better recruiters than their players?
Are coaches rarely better strategists than their players?
Are coaches rarely better teachers than their players?
In short, are coaches rarely better at coaching than their players?

If that's what you are claiming, I can see the relevance of considerimg such assertions, but I'm quite surprised that you'd make them, and I disagree.

Am I misreading or misinterpreting you?

I simply don't understand what you've written, but it seems only fair for me to allow for the possibility that I'm missing something.

Please help me out.
Thanks in advance.

 

[Kitaman]

All I will say is that SH was a perfect time for Stewart to lose his BE virginity. That experience alone would have benefited his development beyond practice. Ball and Castle struggled, but they now have some idea of what to expect in Conference play.

Freshman are difficult to judge, but game situations do give you another perspective of their current abilities. Also will give the 'highly touted' frosh important feedback on why he is not playing many minutes.

If Stewart isn't BE game ready fine, but how will you ever know? Some freshman players have been known to surprise coaches and fans, by playing unexpectedly fine outside of practice. We all know their are players who play much better in game situations than in practice. His teammate knows his tendencies, skills and moves, making it difficult to shine. Opponents not so much.

 

[M.S.G.]

Wow, I regret clicking on this thread.

 

[Rico444]

Cam Spencer has been giving away more open lane drives than a toll booth

He definitely struggles with speed off the bounce. Had a really rough game against Richmond.

 

[RichCTBB]

When will all of the extra year Covid seniors finally be phased out? I feel like all these older and experienced players have changed the game by keeping highly touted freshmen on the bench and limiting their opportunities to develop early…..don’t get me wrong, I’ll take Tristen Newton and another ring all day, but you have to think that the game will look a little different a couple of season after the Covid seniors are gone.

 

[Magic32]

UConn Twitter at it again as rumors about Jaylin transferring must be surfacing somewhere. I not only hope he stays, I hope to see him in action this weekend.

 

[HooperScooper]

UConn Twitter at it again as rumors about Jaylin transferring must be surfacing somewhere. I not only hope he stays, I hope to see him in action this weekend.

Nice to hear a parent who has the right perspective. Castle's parents too.

 

[IndyLives]

Stewart is long and athletic - something this team lacks. Give him the minutes to develop Danny!

 

[mauconnfan]

He definitely struggles with speed off the bounce. Had a really rough game against Richmond.

He does struggle no doubt but let’s not begin to single him out against Richmond. Check his stats against us historically. He’s ripped up Andre, Hawkins and others just as bad and maybe worst. Add to that Tristen looked just as bad guarding his guys the other night!

 

[Shamon30]

PT is the last thing we should complain about. I say this every year. We have 10% of the data the coaches have on these guys at best.

We don't see Jaylin in practice every day. If he's not playing in games we need to make a comeback, it's because the staff--with 50x more evidence than all of us--believe he isn't able to contribute. And for a good reason considering how bar Alex was yesterday.

True, but don't forget that Isaiah Whaley was once behind Eric Cobb and Kassoum Yakwe in the rotation.

 

[#1 2023-24]

Hurley did Stewart a favor by not putting him on the floor with four other players which were playing their
worst game of 2023. It would have been impossible for Stewart to look good. He will have an opportunity
to show what we all hoped he would be sooner than later.

 

[444JR]

PT is the last thing we should complain about. I say this every year. We have 10% of the data the coaches have on these guys at best.

We don't see Jaylin in practice every day. If he's not playing in games we need to make a comeback, it's because the staff--with 50x more evidence than all of us--believe he isn't able to contribute. And for a good reason considering how bar Alex was yesterday.

In the past Hurley has mentioned regrets about not getting guys more burn sooner in their careers. Isaiah Whaley is one, off the top of my head, that Hurley admitted he should have played more.

 

[navery12]

 

[BGesus4]

The idea that everyone thinks the coaches are the most intelligent people around is the problem. There are a lot of smart people that don't coach, but still understand and appreciate the game.

Evidence suggests those people on not on this board

 

[uconnfan68]

What's written above does not make sense to me. Perhaps I was unclear, so I'll try again. You wrote the following:

"At what" are coaches rarely better than their players?

Are coaches rarely better free throw shooters than their players?
Are coaches rarely better dribblers than their players?
Are coaches rarely better dunkers than their players?

If that's what you meant, I'm inclined to agree, and don't see any controversy to such ideas. But I also don't see any relevance to this this thread.

Are you saying that coaches are rarely better recruiters than their players?
Are coaches rarely better strategists than their players?
Are coaches rarely better teachers than their players?
In short, are coaches rarely better at coaching than their players?

If that's what you are claiming, I can see the relevance of considerimg such assertions, but I'm quite surprised that you'd make them, and I disagree.

Am I misreading or misinterpreting you?

I simply don't understand what you've written, but it seems only fair for me to allow for the possibility that I'm missing something.

Please help me out.
Thanks in advance.

You make mountains out of molehills. Great coaches don’t really do much with poor players. So coaches aren’t usually much better than their players. They are what their record says they are.

This whole thing has been totally blown out of proportion. Coaching takes are huge passion for the game, with all the varied parts of it, like recruiting, culture, philosophy, management, evaluation, development, and game management. We sometimes tend to direct our opinions about small parts of the whole, usually game performance or lack of.

I’m 100% behind this team, this staff, and this school (and all it’s teams). It won’t stop me from having my own views though.

 

[uconnfan68]

Evidence suggests those people on not on this board

True, no one that smart would bother.

 

[willie99]

Evidence suggests those people on not on this board

Maybe those really smart basketball people are in the wrong line of work

 

[ARIDE]

alex needs a little help defensively and we have a strong athletic back up 4 man who probably shouldve got some PT last night. we put tremendous equity on our freshmen---we have to take the good/bad with that for the development in march. Just like castle and ball are being let to develop---I think stewart needs 10-12 minutes to--especially when ak is off or FT

We need to play people to win first..