OT: Daniel Jones

[navery12]

Why is that? Because he traded away the drama queen and didn’t resign Collins who ended up being extremely overpaid?

Not just that he traded OBJ, but yes I do think that was dumb. Especially less than a year after deciding to sign him. That he knew he wasn't bringing Collins back and still didn't trade him. Giving Solder his contract has been dumb. Every time he opens his mouth it's something dumb coming out. The entire Eli debacle. The fact that he looked at last year's team and thought they could compete.

 

[UConnKev]

Not just that he traded OBJ, but yes I do think that was dumb. Especially less than a year after deciding to sign him. That he knew he wasn't bringing Collins back and still didn't trade him. Giving Solder his contract has been dumb. Every time he opens his mouth it's something dumb coming out. The entire Eli debacle. The fact that he looked at last year's team and thought they could compete.

The Eli debacle is more on Mara and Tisch than it is on Gettleman after what happened with McAdoo starting Geno Smith. The backlash they received from the fans and media pretty much determined that Eli wouldn’t be touched last year.

I agree on Soldier but he was a must add after Reese drafted that disaster that was Erick Flowers.

 

[zls44]

I always* believed, folks.





*no

 

[JohnFSilver]

He’s
Good. I liked Jones, didn’t love him at draft. And yes you can look it up. The No. 6 vs. No. 17 was silly.

I am very very impressed with his deep ball, accuracy, poise. I think he obviously has a world of talent. No idea the vitriol behind him by the sports media.

I was a big Eli backer, because he is still a decent QB in the league. But, Eli regressed to average level nfl QB at best. There is nothing Eli can do that Daniel Jones can’t. And Jones has more athleticism and can really get the ball downfield. That impressed me.

And I don’t want to hear any draftnik ever again. Nerds were like he doesn’t have a good arm. Yeah, that isn’t true.

 

[Edward Sargent]

getting rid of mcadoo was good - no?

 

[ConnHuskBask]

The guy could end up being the second coming of Tom Brady, and it would still be a bad pick

That's a bad take. If you can get a franchise QB it's worth anything. If you think your franchise QB is there, you don't get cute, you take him. For that I will defend Gettleman.

 

[nomar]

Why is that? Because he traded away the drama queen and didn’t resign Collins who ended up being extremely overpaid?

Because he traded away the drama queen after RESIGNING him, costing the team $13M in cap space. A completely indefensible sequence of moves.

If he’s right on Jones, that would be a good step towards repairing the damage.

 

[Austin316]

As a Giants fan... I am content.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

Because he traded away the drama queen after RESIGNING him, costing the team $13M in cap space. A completely indefensible sequence of moves.

If he’s right on Jones, that would be a good step towards repairing the damage.

Even if he's right on Jones, why did he spend $23M of cap space to bring back Eli this year instead of using that $ to plug one of the 85 holes on defense? And on top of that, he still spent the #6 pick on a player who by all accounts would've been there at 17. His decision making consistently has been befuddling at best.

 

[nomar]

Even if he's right on Jones, why did he spend $23M of cap space to bring back Eli this year instead of using that $ to plug one of the 85 holes on defense? And on top of that, he still spent the #6 pick on a player who by all accounts would've been there at 17. His decision making consistently has been befuddling at best.

Agreed on Eli but it’s hard to kick out a guy who won you 2 SBs.

As far as 6/17, I made the same point you’re making a hundred times but (a) there are rumors he wouldn’t have been there and (b) if he’s a stud, I really couldn’t care less that we didn’t squeeze out a 4th round pick to move back.

I’m not happy with Gettleman but so far so good with Jones.

 

[gtcam]

The Gmen win a game they should have lost
Damn that's a rarity in recent times

 

[Fishy]

The kid looked great.

Teams will adjust to him and he’ll struggle at times, but he looks like he checks all the boxes.

The Giants were never, ever going to make the playoffs this year, so I don’t quite get the obsession with the money they’re spending this year. They’re going to have a massive amount of cap space in the future and that’s what counts.

 

[Dove]

It's noy a break, doubt it's a bad sprain. He eas hopping all over at the end.

Wanna retype this one?

 

[Devland]

The Gmen win a game they should have lost
Damn that's a rarity in recent times

Yeah but that means Tampa lost a game it should have won. That would be the norm for them. Something had to give.

 

[superjohn]

Wanna retype this one?

Noy tanks.

 

[zls44]

The kid looked great.

Teams will adjust to him and he’ll struggle at times, but he looks like he checks all the boxes.

The Giants were never, ever going to make the playoffs this year, so I don’t quite get the obsession with the money they’re spending this year. They’re going to have a massive amount of cap space in the future and that’s what counts.

Be nice if he had a WR to throw to at the level of, say, Odell Beckham Jr.

 

[ConnHuskBask]

Even if he's right on Jones, why did he spend $23M of cap space to bring back Eli this year instead of using that $ to plug one of the 85 holes on defense? And on top of that, he still spent the #6 pick on a player who by all accounts would've been there at 17. His decision making consistently has been befuddling at best.

"By all accounts" aka what the talking heads said on draft night.

Far be it for me to defend Gettleman, but if he thought Jones was a franchise QB, you take him when you can.

 

[intlzncster]

Giants have the worst D in the league

Of course, our defense is arguably worst in the league, and running backs don't matter.

You guys clearly have not watched Miami.

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

Wanna retype this one?

Seeking a "fort the ead" vibe.

 

[mauconnfan]

You guys clearly haven not watched Miami.

Miami and the Jets are dreadful. Well the Jets have injuries but nonetheless they’re not very good.

 

[Excalibur]

That's a bad take. If you can get a franchise QB it's worth anything. If you think your franchise QB is there, you don't get cute, you take him. For that I will defend Gettleman.

It’s the right take. They could have had him at 17, and then had another potential franchise player to go with him. If you could have easily done better, you don’t get kudos for doing pretty good . . .

 

[UconnU]

Kids a keeper. All the things you look for in a franchise QB...Smart(scored a 38 on his wonderlic), quick release, mobile. Just needs more talent around him.

 

[8893]

They could have had him at 17

No one knows this. I tend to think they panicked because some others were sniffing around, but we’ll never know.

 

[intlzncster]

Miami and the Jets are dreadful. Well the Jets have injuries but nonetheless they’re not very good.

Miami was epicly bad...and then they went and traded their best defensive player

 

[ConnHuskBask]

It’s the right take. They could have had him at 17, and then had another potential franchise player to go with him. If you could have easily done better, you don’t get kudos for doing pretty good . . .

You have no idea of knowing if Jones would be available or not at 17. Based on what? What guys who aren't employed by NFL teams said on draft night?

There's no such thing as franchise players that aren't QBs too. You're not going to pass up on taking a guy who you think is going to be the QB the next 10 years on the chance he could be available 11 picks later.

Say we take Allen at 6. Someone else takes Jones at 16. Then what?