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Here's what we (at least I) don't know...

Is Donovan Catholic? If so, will that impact his decision to attend a Catholic vs private vs state school?

Does he have strong feelings about a rural vs suburban vs urban setting?

Large vs small? Ohio State at one extreme, PC at the other.

How important is it for his family and friends to be within close proximity? He has opted for his senior year at Bristol Central instead of prep school. Is that foreshadowing?

Just some food for thought.
tasty.
as far as my first uni, and beside it having the program that i wanted, it had to be:
urbanish, large, and my folks informed me that an airplane trip would be frowned upon for round one. round 2 and such?


let's hope mr clingan is prioritizing the program that he really wants, ie, to play for a national champion and the resultant benefit for his goal of getting to the league, cuz in that case, it'll be a no-brainer- UConn by a knockout. what has michigan won in like, ever? plenty of time later in life to go sight-seeing.
the funny thing aboot this vid is that it ends, like in my movie, with an earthquake. that shaking ground and flying chunks of concrete and glass on my head wasn't much in the travel brochures that i read. righty-o, seeyulater bye. im leaving this world someday, but it ain't going down like that. where i come from, giant buildings don't wobble, cars on the interstate don't go flying off into the ocean, and stop and shop is always in the same place as it was yesterday. land of steady habits an all that.
 
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Here's what we (at least I) don't know...

Is Donovan Catholic? If so, will that impact his decision to attend a Catholic vs private vs state school?

Does he have strong feelings about a rural vs suburban vs urban setting?

Large vs small? Ohio State at one extreme, PC at the other.

How important is it for his family and friends to be within close proximity? He has opted for his senior year at Bristol Central instead of prep school. Is that foreshadowing?

Just some food for thought.

the fact that he didn’t go to a prep school when given the chance is my biggest hope that staying home will be important to him.
 
Bruh. Ain’t nobody got time for that.

Hit me with the cliff notes of that dissertation.
Emeka was not top 100, but was rising, when he committed to UConn in April of his Senior year.
 
Im not usually one to look at red herrings, but 247 has UConn as warmer and I feel that they have too much merit to ignore it. Has anyone heard of anything recently?
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Some other stuff I haven't seen mentioned
Steve Pikiel is from Bristol, Juwan Howard and Patrick Ewing were NBA Big men.
Nate Laszweski on Notre Dame went to Avon HS for a year - no idea if they have any connection
 
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Im not usually one to look at red herrings, but 247 has UConn as warmer and I feel that they have too much merit to ignore it. Has anyone heard of anything recently?
with no official visits taken yet, doubtful they know more than which way the "warm" wind is blowing, and you dont need a weatherman to tell you that
 
Im not usually one to look at red herrings, but 247 has UConn as warmer and I feel that they have too much merit to ignore it. Has anyone heard of anything recently?
Home court advantage?
 
I mean it's okay if we don't want to be a team that goes zone. I don't love it, but I get creating that team identity. There are other ways to protect bigs from foul trouble or guys that can't defend someone 1v1
It is not easy to play zone defense
 
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It is not easy to play zone defense
It takes a different kind of awareness than sheer hustle and working through screeens. It requires awareness of passing lanes, player movements and anticipation. It actually requires a higher BB IQ . Done well, it can turn the ball over very effectively.
 
It takes a different kind of awareness than sheer hustle and working through screeens. It requires awareness of passing lanes, player movements and anticipation. It actually requires a higher BB IQ . Done well, it can turn the ball over very effectively.
That was my point earlier. It's not easy to play zone defense
 
That was my point earlier. It's not easy to play zone defense

I still don't understand your point when you replied to me, unless someone I have on ignore has been saying that.

Yeah, zones are hard. That's why teams only usually have 1in their defensive playbook.

It's also still a good way to hide bigs, guys with foul trouble, or guys that can't defend 1v1. Nothing I said was untrue.
 
It takes a different kind of awareness than sheer hustle and working through screeens. It requires awareness of passing lanes, player movements and anticipation. It actually requires a higher BB IQ . Done well, it can turn the ball over very effectively.

Indeed. There is a reason Syracuse wanted Andre Jackson. And a reason we played so much zone back in 1989-90 with guys who were great at that. But I don't remember any Calhoun teams that couldn't switch in and out of man and zone as needed during games. It's a tool that ought to be in our toolbox.

In all those years we lead the nation in shot blocking, I don't recall Calhoun sending his bigs out to hard hedge. I'm sure Hurley will figure it out, but too often last year we got burned in the paint because we didn't have a rim protector.
 
Indeed. There is a reason Syracuse wanted Andre Jackson. And a reason we played so much zone back in 1989-90 with guys who were great at that. But I don't remember any Calhoun teams that couldn't switch in and out of man and zone as needed during games. It's a tool that ought to be in our toolbox.

In all those years we lead the nation in shot blocking, I don't recall Calhoun sending his bigs out to hard hedge. I'm sure Hurley will figure it out, but too often last year we got burned in the paint because we didn't have a rim protector.
In our best shot blocking years, the defense actually funneled guards by them into shotblockers. It worked so well. Marcus Williams loved this, especially since he couldn't keep guys in front of him. This was also an era where guys can't shoot like they do now and there was maybe 2 guys on a team that were a big threat from deep. Now many teams have 5 players on the court at the same time who are a shooting threat.

I agree that zone should be used in certain situations and needs to be in the toolbox.
 
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Indeed. There is a reason Syracuse wanted Andre Jackson. And a reason we played so much zone back in 1989-90 with guys who were great at that. But I don't remember any Calhoun teams that couldn't switch in and out of man and zone as needed during games. It's a tool that ought to be in our toolbox.

In all those years we lead the nation in shot blocking, I don't recall Calhoun sending his bigs out to hard hedge. I'm sure Hurley will figure it out, but too often last year we got burned in the paint because we didn't have a rim protector.

I would say that with so many shooters in the game compared to them, the hard hedge makes more sense than it did in the 90s and early 2000s. That being said, having the ability go to a drop coverage, a zone, whatever when our base defense isn't working is what the great coaches do. In mid-major ball, you can be bigger, stronger, and more aggressive to win a lot of games. Having multiple looks is 100% needed in the big leagues. Looked like Hurley got that last year when we started protecting Sanogo's fouls late. I would not be surprised to see us add more defenses this year.
 
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In our best shot blocking years, the defense actually funneled guards by them into shotblockers. It worked so well. Marcus Williams loved this, especially since he couldn't keep guys in front of him. This was also an era where guys can't shoot like they do now and there was maybe 2 guys on a team that were a big threat from deep. Now many teams have 5 players on the court at the same time who are a shooting threat.

I agree that zone should be used in certain situations and needs to be in the toolbox.

I get that the game has changed, but I think Hurley focuses too much on defending mediocre outside shooter, and sacrifices interior defense. If you've got 5 shooters, 2 of them are probably not guys you need to focus on outside (on our team, think Whaley, Akok). Let them take those shots. These aren't NBA shooters. Because what I saw all year was that the open 3s against us came because a wing defender was having to rotate back outside from covering the paint and was late. So sending the 5 out hurt our 3 point shot defense.

I also think it's harder to take the 3 point shot away. Guys make them whether defended or not. But the paint? You have a long roster like ours and you can make the paint very, very inhospitable.
 
I get that the game has changed, but I think Hurley focuses too much on defending mediocre outside shooter, and sacrifices interior defense. If you've got 5 shooters, 2 of them are probably not guys you need to focus on outside (on our team, think Whaley, Akok). Let them take those shots. These aren't NBA shooters. Because what I saw all year was that the open 3s against us came because a wing defender was having to rotate back outside from covering the paint and was late. So sending the 5 out hurt our 3 point shot defense.

I also think it's harder to take the 3 point shot away. Guys make them whether defended or not. But the paint? You have a long roster like ours and you can make the paint very, very inhospitable.

Point well made and I will add the Gillespie debacle. No way you continue to allow him to take any of your defenders one on one all game eventually you double down and make people make jump shots period. Hope there was learning lesson last year in the one game!
 
Some other stuff I haven't seen mentioned
Steve Pikiel is from Bristol, Juwan Howard and Patrick Ewing were NBA Big men.
Nate Laszweski on Notre Dame went to Avon HS for a year - no idea if they have any connection
Columbus and Providence have done well in the Underrated Cities thread.

Syracuse is making an all-out effort to steal a local, like Geno did with Breanna. Pascal Chukwu didn't count. Clingan wanted a second ACC school for balance, but not too ACC.
 
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Rutgers is more in this than most casual fans realize. Where is their head coach from?
 
We hard hedge, so bigs needs to be super mobile sliding on the perimeter. That's why Whaley (with the body of a PF) is so effective defending at the 5 for us in the hedge... lack of size is also why he struggles against traditional bigs. It's also why Sanogo (and presumably Clingan would also) really struggled with it.

Because we hard hedge so much, it's actually our 4s and 3s that should be elite shot-blockers. Because of the double team up top, they end up helping a lot. Akok racked up a TON of blocks in the help that way, and I think we're probably hoping Johnson can do the same. Sid Wilson did a decent job in his minutes there too.
So you get a 7’1-2” rim protector, and you expect him to guard at 30’. Sounds like he’ll be at Michigan for sure.
 
In the end Clingan will have to decide whether playing close to home and having his dad at every game is important to him. He’s got a great option in UConn if that’s what he’s looking for. From everything that I’ve heard he’s a good kid. I hope he makes a choice that works for him.
 
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