CBB Trial

[intlzncster]

This is what happens when your kid graduates and his natural ability was the only thing that could make you successful.

Not gonna lie, wish my nonexistent kid could do the same things as Brian Bowen

 

[A10 fan]

Not gonna lie, wish my nonexistent kid could do the same things as Brian Bowen

He's talking about Doug McDermott, not Bowen.

 

[UConnStats]

 

[Nebraskan18]

Hahahaha Freighton

 

[auror]

How do the shoe companies possibly recoup that money? $100,000 for the #20 recruit? Considering it's a risk that A) they make it big enough to sell any shoes at all outside of the top 10, B) they even sign with your company after they make it big or get drafted, C) any result won't be for YEARS and you could just invest that money elsewhere, and D) there's some % chance you could sign them even without the college steering once they made it big.

I know shoe margins are high, but there's less than 20 guys in the NBA with their own shoe, let alone #20 in a particular high school class.

 

[intlzncster]

He's talking about Doug McDermott, not Bowen.

Aaaaahhhhhhhhh, got it. Makes more sense.

Still wish my nonexistent kid could ball like Bowen tho

 

[intlzncster]

Boom goes the dynamite. Right in KU's piehole

 

[intlzncster]

How do the shoe companies possibly recoup that money? $100,000 for the #20 recruit? Considering it's a risk that A) they make it big enough to sell any shoes at all outside of the top 10, B) they even sign with your company after they make it big or get drafted, C) any result won't be for YEARS and you could just invest that money elsewhere, and D) there's some % chance you could sign them even without the college steering once they made it big.

I know shoe margins are high, but there's less than 20 guys in the NBA with their own shoe, let alone #20 in a particular high school class.

It's more about holding on to your spot. If you get kids to school's that want them, they're more likely to hold you in good favor. Contracts with schools, access, any kind of ancillary benefit you can think of. And any kid who goes there who blows up, regardless of whether they were with you or not, is essentially yours when he goes pro.


And universities are effectively marketing their brand for them.

 

[andy34]

Except for that pesky 200k scholarship. 250k if they go 5 years. Plus, if we're being honest, all the birds and post college connections you could ever want.

Not saying everything is equitable for major sports, but don't pretend like they get nothing out of the deal. Nearly 100% of dudes would be D1 athletes if they could, so it's obviously a huge benefit.

$200K scholarship? You mean the thing that can be revoked after any year and is full of easy classes because even the university doesn't consider education a priority? It's the bare minimum, and hardly worth that much. They deserve to be paid over the table, straight up.

 

[auror]

$200K scholarship? You mean the thing that can be revoked after any year and is full of easy classes because even the university doesn't consider education a priority? It's the bare minimum, and hardly worth that much. They deserve to be paid over the table, straight up.

The scholarship is massively valuable AND they deserve to be paid over the tab;e at revenue generating schools.

Simple.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

This case is really killing Arizona's recruiting.

 

[StingLykOllie]

It's more about holding on to your spot. If you get kids to school's that want them, they're more likely to hold you in good favor. Contracts with schools, access, any kind of ancillary benefit you can think of. And any kid who goes there who blows up, regardless of whether they were with you or not, is essentially yours when he goes pro.
And universities are effectively marketing their brand for them.

Also, Adidas revenue (according to the internet) was north of $20 Billion last year. $100k is a drop in the ocean.

 

[intlzncster]

$200K scholarship? You mean the thing that can be revoked after any year and is full of easy classes because even the university doesn't consider education a priority? It's the bare minimum, and hardly worth that much. They deserve to be paid over the table, straight up.

Well if it's worth that little, I guess they should give it out to all the students.

And if the kid wants to take real classes, he can. Plenty do it. If they don't want to, they don't.

Really though, it should just turn into a semi pro league. No association w the school other than the unis and the arena. No classes, no school life, no nothing. And pay the players as employees.

 

[tcf15]

 

[Guapo]

This is why I think our posters/fans should tread lightly when mocking other schools for violations/paying players. Besides the fact we haven't been a completely clean program, there's virtually no way to compete at the level we have, without having some skeletons in the closet. I have no first-hand knowledge, but if our fans think our only transgressions are what we've been punished for, I think that's pretty naive.

Just hoping we come out the other side of this clean.

Yup.

Never ask how the Tuna is caught.

 

[Guapo]

Yup.

Never ask how the Tuna is caught.

Or how the pizza gets blazed

 

[CL82]

I have no first-hand knowledge, but if our fans think our only transgressions are what we've been punished for, I think that's pretty naive.

Then why speculate.

 

[Devland]

This is why I think our posters/fans should tread lightly when mocking other schools for violations/paying players. Besides the fact we haven't been a completely clean program, there's virtually no way to compete at the level we have, without having some skeletons in the closet. I have no first-hand knowledge, but if our fans think our only transgressions are what we've been punished for, I think that's pretty naive.

Just hoping we come out the other side of this clean.

We offer facetime with Ray Allen and Rudy Gay.

 

[BlueMAB]

Then why speculate.

I said I didn't have firsthand knowledge, that doesn't mean I haven't heard things from people who do.

 

[CL82]

I said I didn't have firsthand knowledge, that doesn't mean I haven't heard things from people who do.

Doesn't mean that you do either. (As an aside, "I know a guy who says..." statements are the bane of the internet.)

Why don't we leave the harmful speculation about our programs to others? They seem to have it covered adequately.

 

[BlueMAB]

Doesn't mean that you do either. (As an aside, "I know a guy who says..." statements are the bane of the internet.)

Why don't we leave the harmful speculation about our programs to others? They seem to have it covered adequately.

I literally said "I don't" twice, i'm not sure why you're "correcting" me by saying "doesn't mean that you do...".

It's not harmful. But I'll agree not to discuss it as soon as our posters stop doing the exact same thing to other "$chool$".

(as an aside, I wouldn't say "I know a guy who says" it would be "I know a guy who saw").

 

[CL82]

I literally said "I don't" twice, i'm not sure why you're "correcting" me by saying "doesn't mean that you do...".

Yeah I should have said did not do: see below:

Doesn't mean that you did either.

I'll agree not to discuss it as soon as our posters stop doing the exact same thing to other "$chool$".

So you [feces] talk us because your mad about what other guys post? Not following that logic at all.

(as an aside, I wouldn't say "I know a guy who says" it would be "I know a guy who saw").

No actually it would be: "I know a guy who says he saw..." Right?

 

[intlzncster]

Yeah I should have said did not do: see below:



So you [feces] talk us because your mad about what other guys post? Not following that logic at all.

No actually it would be: "I know a guy who says he saw..." Right?

Settle CL. He's not blowing up our spot. The original point is that EVERYBODY does these things. And I'm willing to bet that's very close to accurate.

When you see schools like Creighton offering $100k + a well paid job, you know it's an incredibly rampant practice. And UCONN's a big shoe school, which says something as well.

We aren't in the cross hairs for anything so far, which is the most important point.

 

[CL82]

Settle CL. He's not blowing up our spot. The original point is that EVERYBODY does these things. And I'm willing to bet that's very close to accurate.

When you see schools like Creighton offering $100k + a well paid job, you know it's an incredibly rampant practice. And UCONN's a big shoe school, which says something as well.

We aren't in the cross hairs for anything so far, which is the most important point.

I hear you. But I hate the posts that needlessly post sheet about UConn based on "I know a guy BS." It's pointless. It is at best an attempted humble brag at faux insider status (and 'quite frankly' Chief's got that niche all sewed up) and at worst smear on the school. Just in case you think I'm over cautious I remind you that posts on the BY have been used by another school in a complaint to the NCAA and actually resulted in a secondary violation. I'd advise people to take that crap to PM if you really feel compelled to spout about it.

 

[Mr. French]

Of course that’s a violation, how could the writer think otherwise?

So he thought everyone could offer every recruit infinite money and nothing happens if they don’t prove it was paid?

They’re actively trying to do the oldest, dirtiest trick in the book.