Calhoun Quotes on Hurley

[8893]

Lies

Thanks for confirming that's what you've been spreading.

Shameful.

 

[JMick]

Thanks for confirming that's what you've been spreading.

Shameful.

You're so wrapped up in your anger that your sense of logic has disappeared

 

[8893]

I’m a maverick.

Keep telling yourself that. You were co-opted and we all saw it.

You're so wrapped up in your anger that your sense of logic has disappeared

Not angry. Just disappointed in the utes.

 

[8893]

While some of it certainly has not been confirmed, there's a lot of stuff that was 'behind the veil' that is now public knowledge (one simple example being KO's very real rift with JC). It is a win some, lose some game.

As I've said, the rift with JC is the most unforgivable transgression in my book.

 

[JMick]

Keep telling yourself that. You were co-opted and we all saw it.


Not angry. Just disappointed in the utes.

No u mad

 

[8893]

No u mad

If you mean as in crazy, true.

I don't have enough emotional capital to spend being angry about this.

 

[superjohn]

Smh at the second hand crap that’s allowed here. It has been spoken as Gospel truth by the same people for months, and repeated as such by countless others, and now confirmed to be car wash material.

There’s a reason for the hearsay rule.

You had to be drinking with him and under KO's bed for it to be true? You had to be eating linguine and clams when Pitino bent over crazy eyes for it to be true?

 

[CL82]

I’m a maverick.

Stairmaster??

 

[mauconnfan]

He somehow left javjudah and gtcam out of it though.

And I’m out? Damn

 

[JMick]

And I’m out? Damn

If you insist i can find a picture with more people with their heads buried

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

You're so wrapped up in your anger that your sense of logic has disappeared

Holy Spartacus you have no self-awareness. I get that you're probably 14, but literally everything you post on this subject is animated by emotion, rumor, and what you've convinced yourself is true. And then you come at other people whose only crime is saying "let's pump the breaks on asserting as fact things that we don't know to be definitively true."

 

[JMick]

Holy Spartacus you have no self-awareness. I get that you're probably 14, but literally everything you post on this subject is animated by emotion, rumor, and what you've convinced yourself is true. And then you come at other people whose only crime is saying "let's pump the breaks on asserting as fact things that we don't know to be definitively true."

Well if we want to talk about anger and animated emotion you are the resident expert

 

[8893]

You had to be eating linguine and clams when Pitino bent over crazy eyes for it to be true?

Not at all. Pappardelle with ragu would be perfectly acceptable.

 

[8893]

Stairmaster??

 

[husky8273]

That may be one of the causes they are claiming. There are probably several others. Possibly neglect of duties. Possibly other things...perhaps behavioral issues. Look at clause iv in the piece of the contract @CL82 posted. My guess is that they didn't put all of their eggs in one basket, and probably have several examples that could constitute "cause" under his contract.

Everybody but you, including Ollie's lawyers given his lawsuit, seem to think UConn has a case, and a very good case. Ollie doesn't raise that ridiculous lawsuit arguing a Constitutional due process violation unless he knows they have cause, and that he's likely to lose in arbitration.

For the record, KO's attorneys have not filed a lawsuit. They wrote a letter describing how UConn failed to give KO due process among other claims.

 

[Paesano]

Well if we want to talk about anger and animated emotion you are the resident expert

Well done!

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

August, 8893 and whtdmd can be pictured above

Who's wearing the skirt & heels?

 

[JMick]

Who's wearing the skirt & heels?

lol definitely august. it wouldn't be the first time. @Spartacus probably has the picture

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

lol definitely august. it wouldn't be the first time. @Spartacus probably has the picture

That diet is doing wonders!

As to the subject at hand, if Pitt could settle with Stallings after initially claiming cause, then UConn and Ollie can settle too.

 

[8893]

That diet is doing wonders!

As to the subject at hand, if Pitt could settle with Stallings after initially claiming cause, then UConn and Ollie can settle too.

It will be settled at some point, of that I am sure.

 

[HuskyHawk]

For the record, KO's attorneys have not filed a lawsuit. They wrote a letter describing how UConn failed to give KO due process among other claims.

Threatened a lawsuit is what I should have said. Because that’s what it is, along with a wordy FOIA request. Filing a suit would cost him money.

https://media.wtnh.com/nxs-wtnhtv-m...-3-18 Final_1524088834286_40097719_ver1.0.pdf

 

[dennismenace]

Stairmaster:

 

[Chief00]

The FOIA is over the top. I counted Jim Calhoun’s name at least six times. I am sorry Kevin but Jim always put in a full day’s work. You used to do that, but then you didn’t. Perhaps, some of a head college coach/program leader’s tasks were just not in your wheelhouse? So you did not know how to approach or start them? You need to look in the mirror and accept ownership.

As to the letter it misrepresented KO’s contract. Made it seem it was only confined to major violations and soft peddled the other conduct stuff - which to me was what this was always about.

 

[ctchamps]

As I've said, the rift with JC is the most unforgivable transgression in my book.

That falling out was over Glen Miller’s firing.

Glen Miller and KO fell out over the handling of players two years ago unless you buy into the rumor he was fired over the loss of Diallo or Glen emphasized courses when recruits came for official visits and pushed KO into playing zone defense.

Unlike last season KO was a bear with players two years ago which people have conveniently forgotten. Glen tried to soothe things with players and KO perceived that as undermining his authority.

The AD had a talk with KO after that season and that plus the mass exodus resulted in KO doing a 180 in his handling of players last season.

The irony is those players two years ago would not buy into the importance of defense something JC insisted.

I’m not implying KO had no responsibility with events. He could have handled players better. On the other hand we’ll never know if anyone could have done better with that collective group. Although that won’t stop people from believing their conjecture is fact.

My conjecture is the divorce changed KO and he lost the ability to genuinely relate to his players the way he did the first few seasons as head coach. I hope he can regain that ability but UConn could not afford to wait if/until that happened .

We have hired a proven commodity with Hurley who has a long history of good relationships with players. And Hurley has hired a staff with a known ability to relate to players. Twenty four wins next season is not a pipe dream imo.

 

[Chief00]

That falling out was over Glen Miller’s firing.

Glen Miller and KO fell out over the handling of players two years ago unless you buy into the rumor he was fired over the loss of Diallo or Glen emphasized courses when recruits came for official visits and pushed KO into playing zone defense.

Unlike last season KO was a bear with players two years ago which people have conveniently forgotten. Glen tried to soothe things with players and KO perceived that as undermining his authority.

The AD had a talk with KO after that season and that plus the mass exodus resulted in KO doing a 180 in his handling of players last season.

The irony is those players two years ago would not buy into the importance of defense something JC insisted.

I’m not implying KO had no responsibility with events. He could have handled players better. On the other hand we’ll never know if anyone could have done better with that collective group. Although that won’t stop people from believing their conjecture is fact.

My conjecture is the divorce changed KO and he lost the ability to genuinely relate to his players the way he did the first few seasons as head coach. I hope he can regain that ability but UConn could not afford to wait if/until that happened .

We have hired a proven commodity with Hurley who has a long history of good relationships with players. And Hurley has hired a staff with a known ability to relate to players. Twenty four wins next season is not a pipe dream imo.

I agree about the handling of players. Although, the rift with JC started a long time before the Miller firing. It basically started when Jim in KO’s eyes got a little too much credit and attention as a result of the 2014 National Championship and KO’s ego was growing exponentially. He no longer wanted Jim at practices and telling KO his opinion on things. He wanted to be his own man, which would have been fine, but he underestimated the value of the cocooned Jim built around him his first two years.

#ChiefCertified

 

[Paesano]

I agree about the handling of players. Although, the rift with JC started a long time before the Miller firing. It basically started when Jim in KO’s eyes got a little too much credit and attention as a result of the 2014 National Championship and KO’s ego was growing exponentially. He no longer wanted Jim at practices and telling KO his opinion on things. He wanted to be his own man, which would have been fine, but he underestimated the value of the cocooned Jim built around him his first two years.

#ChiefCertified

Yep, there were signs that the relationship had soured long before Miller was fired. We will never fully know the how and the why of how this all went south so hard and so fast. But we are all human and even those of us with little self awareness know, deep down, what our flaws are and why they are there so we can all piece together a plausible picture. No matter what we think of the job KO did as a coach, I think we all feel compassion for how tough the divorce must have been on him, for example.

 

[ctchamps]

I agree about the handling of players. Although, the rift with JC started a long time before the Miller firing. It basically started when Jim in KO’s eyes got a little too much credit and attention as a result of the 2014 National Championship and KO’s ego was growing exponentially. He no longer wanted Jim at practices and telling KO his opinion on things. He wanted to be his own man, which would have been fine, but he underestimated the value of the cocooned Jim built around him his first two years.

#ChiefCertified

This I can believe.
Egos are huge problems especially when they are huge.
It’s conceivable that JC did and said things in practices that were antagonistic to KO that came from his feeling he wasn’t getting credit for #4 by the media and/or KO. And it’s possible KO had an overinflated opinion of himself and did not want to acknowledge JC’s role or felt JC was diluting his role in that NC.

I’m nervous that JC is involved in Hurley’s practices. The positive is the advice he can offer. The negative is if he is unable to disentangle himself from believing he is still coaching. I believe
Lou Carnasseca couldn’t and that really hurt St. John’s.

 

[Chief00]

This I can believe.
Egos are huge problems especially when they are huge.
It’s conceivable that JC did and said things in practices that were antagonistic to KO that came from his feeling he wasn’t getting credit for #4 by the media and/or KO. And it’s possible KO had an overinflated opinion of himself and did not want to acknowledge JC’s role or felt JC was diluting his role in that NC.

I’m nervous that JC is involved in Hurley’s practices. The positive is the advice he can offer. The negative is if he is unable to disentangle himself from believing he is still coaching. I believe
Lou Carnasseca couldn’t and that really hurt St. John’s.

Jim is always a silent observer at practice, unless asked to say a few words - which is very rare. The issue was that KO did not want any JC post practice feedback and Hurley sees the value in it regarding pickup games which he can’t officially watch.

Calhoun and Blaney are perfectionist and their feedback is brutally honest and exceptionally insightful. But, you need to be open to it, secure and not have an ego that will not accept constructive feedback by others.
The way their brilliant basketball minds work is they tend to focus on what needs to be improved - so you don’t hear a lot - you did this great stuff. It’s more the guy made a lazy cut, did not set the screen correctly, seem out of condition, or not taking the right option on a play.

 

[ctchamps]

Jim is always a silent observer at practice, unless asked to say a few words - which is very rare. The issue was that KO did not want any JC post practice feedback and Hurley sees the value in it.
Calhoun and Blaney are perfectionist and their feedback is brutally honest and exceptionally insightful. But, you need to be open to it, secure and not have an ego that will not accept constructive feedback to others.

That is reassuring if true.

 

[Chief00]

That is reassuring if true.

Ok I will rate it #ChiefCertified.

The Jim you see perform on a sideline stage wasn’t the Jim you would see in practice even when he coached. As a retired coach - he is a silent observer - but after practice feedback is very analytical and brutally honest. That’s how Jim and George talked about their own team but it’s understandable that someone with a lot of ego may not want to hear it. I think Calhoun recognizes that.