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Bouknight needs to have a great second half of this game if he wants to be remembered as a great Husky.

Tenspro2002 said:
He'll be a high draft pick and would be insane not to leave, but the question is what is his UConn legacy going to be?

As far as winning is concerned, he could be Caron, or he could be Daniel Hamilton.
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Exactly!
 
UConnMike04 said:
Here’s the problem: I love Bouk and he’s our best player. Not debatable. The issue with him is he gets pushed around, thrown around, knocked down and physically can’t keep up for 40 minutes (cramping, sucking wind, dead legs, etc). The next level has bigger guys, longer games and is more physical...not for lack of talent, but because of physicality, he needs another year to grow and mature. That said - he’s gone, right call or not.
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He will grow 10x faster in the nba. Have seen any rookie vs any upper class men? No comparison.
 
UConnMike04 said:
While the defense is more spaced out and faster paced...it’s more physical, faster and a longer game. He’s not ready. His game translates to a 10-20 pick instead of the 5-10 right now, unless he steps up big next three week. His stock has def dropped. Again, he’s gone and he can carve out a Jeremy Lamb type career - but he’s not ready IMO. Also, guys “smarter than me” have been wrong plenty of times.
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Are you assuming that his stock has dropped or do you have GM friends who have told you that? It takes way more than a bad game or two to drop your stock. If anything he helped himself going out there and giving it his all with the amount of pain he was in.
 
If he had Vitals mental makeup we win more. I’ve been looking to blame it on generational softness, but there are still some tough players out there. I can’t tell if he’s soft or just needs to bulk up. Lucky for him, they don’t play D in the NBA til the playoffs.
 
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Its not rocket science. Bouk has been and will continue to be double-teamed in college-the Tournament. Does he recognize the double team and spray the ball to his open teammates(secondary players) and do they make the D "pay" with made baskets?

Or does he try to do it on his own? Seems like the book on Bouk is to body him on D if you can and disrupt his offensive rhythm.

RJ's value to Bouk is getting him the ball in his spots before the double-team can happen.

Looking forward to some more W's.. One at a time.
 
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Umami Zen said:
Its not rocket science. Bouk has been and will continue to be double-teamed in college-the Tournament. Does he recognize the double team and spray the ball to his open teammates(secondary players) and do they make the D "pay" with made baskets?

Or does he try to do it on his own? Seems like the book on Bouk is to body him on D if you can and disrupt his offensive rhythm'

RJ's value to Bouk is getting him the ball in his spots before the double-team can happen.

Looking forward to some more W's.. One at a time.
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He feels it’s on him to make the play. Would a few more Tyler Polley 3’s take the pressure off or Martin shots falling? Yup. Can’t do this alone.
 
jibsey said:
He feels it’s on him to make the play. Would a few more Tyler Polley 3’s take the pressure off or Martin shots falling? Yup. Can’t do this alone.
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There are times when I think Bouk doesn't think he'll get a return pass from his teammates. Cut to the rim.
.Use screens.. Get open without the ball. Run the baseline .

With reversing the ball and good ball movement (like last GTown game) and making the extra pass. His teammates will find him.

Guessing this will be a teaching moment for Dan Hurley/staff leading up to our next game.

In Bouk's defense. I don't think he had his legs last night. No explosion-dehydration hangover.
 
Bouk needs help from everyone. But he also doesn't let the game come to him in crucial moments he tries to take it to double teams, misses open players and at times plays out of control. But again, we need a lot from him. They're not afraid of AJ, Gaff, Polley because he's guardable etc etc.. But it's not even this that has bothered me about Bouk it's more his attitude as of late. Whiny, sulky, blames teammates with hands and faces and at times isn't fully locked in on D.

Let's see what he has for the tourney but for now he has some making up to do. It's just me but a star of a "team" doesn't act like he has since returning form the injury. He acts like he deserves more or something I just can't get over it with him.
 
Umami Zen said:
There are times when I think Bouk doesn't think he'll get a return pass from his teammates. Cut to the rim.
.Use screens.. Get open without the ball. Run the baseline .

With reversing the ball and good ball movement (like last GTown game) and making the extra pass. His teammates will find him.

Guessing this will be a teaching moment for Dan Hurley/staff leading up to our next game.

In Bouk's defense. I don't think he had his legs last night. No explosion-dehydration hangover.
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No legs, absolutely.
 
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imno1 said:
James and Coach Hurley are going to prove many of the doubters wrong during the NCAAs. This has been a fun season to watch and hopefully we will play our best ball during the tournament.
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Very few doubters here on those 2. I bet less than 5%.
 
The game ended when Cole went down. That left it all up to Bouk. If he wasn't 100% at the start, one could imagine what he had left at the end. There was no point guard to direct the show at that point. Gaffney still has a way to go. Despite it all, they had 3 chances in the final seconds to tie, but it was not meant to be. Creighton appeared more physical and more poised.
 
mauconnfan said:
Bouk needs help from everyone. But he also doesn't let the game come to him in crucial moments he tries to take it to double teams, misses open players and at times plays out of control. But again, we need a lot from him. They're not afraid of AJ, Gaff, Polley because he's guardable etc etc.. But it's not even this that has bothered me about Bouk it's more his attitude as of late. Whiny, sulky, blames teammates with hands and faces and at times isn't fully locked in on D.

Let's see what he has for the tourney but for now he has some making up to do. It's just me but a star of a "team" doesn't act like he has since returning form the injury. He acts like he deserves more or something I just can't get over it with him.
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Totally agree with the whiny, body language part. We played our best against DePaul without him frankly. Not saying we are better without him. Just saying something has changed and not for the better.
 
Rocktheworld said:
And you surely sport a fattier liver than most of us here
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So I checked this out online (you can do the same):

In the 2001/02 Season Caron Butler was listed at 6'-7" and 217#

This Season ('20/'21) James Bouknight is listed at 6'-5" and 190#

A difference of 27#! I suppose that you do not think that Bouk is getting continuously beaten up because of this lack of bulk?

Methinks that your liver is bigger than mine....
 
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Unfair topic to say the least. How'd we do the year Ray Allen was the team leader?
 
From the man himself. He cares. Let’s get it, James.

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Waquoit said:
Unfair topic to say the least. How'd we do the year Ray Allen was the team leader?
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Yup, at the end of the year it was Ricky Moore's team and we were dead in the water when he got hurt.
 
It was clear Bouk wasn't 100%. He has some of the best body control I've ever seen and at times last night he looked like he was learning to walk. Many of his shots were short. Tough loss, but hopefully he's back to normal by next Thurs/Fri.
 
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MervthePurvis said:
Stop. Name one top 8 pick who has returned in the last 30 years not called tim Duncan.
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How sure are you he's a top 8 pick? Drummond was projected 2 and went 9. You have no idea where he'll be drafted
 
Lefty2one said:
It was clear Bouk wasn't 100%. He has some of the best body control I've ever seen and at times last night he looked like he was learning to walk. Many of his shots were short. Tough loss, but hopefully he's back to normal by next Thurs/Fri.
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Fri/Sat
 
TheRealKBuks said:
How sure are you he's a top 8 pick? Drummond was projected 2 and went 9. You have no idea where he'll be drafted
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Its not about the first contract for these guys it’s about the second and third. If he is a projected lottery pick and first round lock he needs to go. Makes no sense to come back to school.
 
There is no doubt that the kid plays hard and has lots of heart. He is also very talented.

If he really goes in the lottery then, yeah, that's the smart thing to do. But we have seen people drop hard and far in the past. Post season play has a big impact on the GMs. I have to think his stock has dropped. How far is one question. What will he do next weekend to reverse that is another.

I really thought that last Polley three was going down. The mood here would be quite different.
 
UofCT said:
Its not about the first contract for these guys it’s about the second and third. If he is a projected lottery pick and first round lock he needs to go. Makes no sense to come back to school.
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Agreed, and I love Bouknight don't get me wrong. I don't feel like this is trashing him in any way. I'm just saying his body broke down and failed him in less than 20 games played. Not even just the cramps but he struggled to stay on his feet and keep his legs under him since returning.

I haven't seen the latest mocks or watched enough of the other top prospects to be locked into my opinion. BUT I don't see an NBA team wanting to invest tens of millions in the lottery on a guy whose body isn't ready for an 82 game grind.

I doubt he will, but he certainly would benefit from one more.year where he will certainly be a top 5 pick
 
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