B1G

[RMoore1999]

Funny how she isn't attracting a crowd.

Confident, secure and mildly flamboyant women tend to intimidate sober men.

I'm actually looking to update that pic to replace the cat with a husky dog. If anyone knows a good body paint artist, let me know...

 

[ctchamps]

Confident, secure and mildly flamboyant women tend to intimidate sober men.

I'm actually looking to update that pic to replace the cat with a husky dog. If anyone knows a good body paint artist, let me know...

Agree about the first part! The second part has me asking if you are the model or know the model personally. Third thing is the gal next to the one with the cat doing her own rendition?

 

[Adios]

Confident, secure and mildly flamboyant women tend to intimidate sober men.

I'm actually looking to update that pic to replace the cat with a husky dog. If anyone knows a good body paint artist, let me know...

That has nice eyes.

 

[ctchamps]

That has nice eyes.

Normally I'm not a fan of bug eyes! In this case I'm making an exception.

 

[Dann]

-syracuse and pitt took like 10 months to get buyout stuff done
-neb took like 3 months
-wvu took like 4 months

as some examples time line wise....

 

[CL82]

"We are not RU or BC, we win stuff." I love that quote Sub. Simple, straightforward and accurate.

 

[RegisteredUconn]

Confident, secure and mildly flamboyant women tend to intimidate sober men.

I'm actually looking to update that pic to replace the cat with a husky dog. If anyone knows a good body paint artist, let me know...

I don't know Jack Sprat about body painting buy I'm willing to keep her warm until somebody who does shows up.

 

[huskymedic]

McMurphyESPN 5:25pm via TweetDeck
To all responses about UConn/Cincinnati having shot at B1G, they don't. However, they could get pulled up to ACC if B1G expands

Just once I'd love for the conference to make him look like a massive tool by announcing UConn to B1G on Christmas Eve!!!

 

[specialisthusky]

McMurphyESPN 5:25pm via TweetDeck
To all responses about UConn/Cincinnati having shot at B1G, they don't. However, they could get pulled up to ACC if B1G expands

Just once I'd love for the conference to make him look like a massive tool by announcing UConn to B1G on Christmas Eve!!!

I'm lost at how the B1G could have no interest in UConn after taking RU. Unfortunately this guy has been on par so far. Let's hope B1G goes to 16 for a year or two. UConn goes to ACC...starts winning again to show our value and we get a look later.

Or that McMurphy is completely wrong and we get invited on Xmas Eve. HO HO HO

 

[ctchamps]

I'm lost at how the B1G could have no interest in UConn after taking RU. Unfortunately this guy has been on par so far. Let's hope B1G goes to 16 for a year or two. UConn goes to ACC...starts winning again to show our value and we get a look later.

Or that McMurphy is completely wrong and we get invited on Xmas Eve. HO HO HO

He knows about as much as you and I about CR. He just reads different tea leaves.

 

[Point6]

I'm lost at how the B1G could have no interest in UConn after taking RU. Unfortunately this guy has been on par so far. Let's hope B1G goes to 16 for a year or two. UConn goes to ACC...starts winning again to show our value and we get a look later.

Or that McMurphy is completely wrong and we get invited on Xmas Eve. HO HO HO

The concept of doubling up on DC w/ UVA seems natural to everyone. The concept of doubling up on NYC is somehow a harder sell.

 

[specialisthusky]

He knows about as much as you and I about CR. He just reads different tea leaves.

am i wrong that he has a decent track record so far? I thought he was actually in the know acc-wise.

 

[Dann]

The concept of doubling up on DC w/ UVA seems natural to everyone. The concept of doubling up on NYC is somehow a harder sell.

please explain, i lost u in the down/up

 

[specialisthusky]

please explain, i lost u in the down/up

maryland grabs some of the DC market. Adding UVA would grab more and seems to make sense to everyone in the realignment rumor world. Rutgers grabs some of the NYC market. Adding UConn would grab more and seems to make no sense to everyone in the realignment rumor world but us.

 

[ctchamps]

The concept of doubling up on DC w/ UVA seems natural to everyone. The concept of doubling up on NYC is somehow a harder sell.

We all have our conceptions about this. Only Delaney knows his. But my thought is if wishes were fishes for Delaney (note the fish reference) his choices in expansion would be ND, then VA, then UNC. The last would be between UConn, BC and Cuse.

I don't see him wanting an island school so GT is out. ND won't join and I doubt UNC would either. So it is VA all the way and only thing that keeps things from moving quicker is the political/legal/monetary situation. I still think VA goes because like us the university people and the politcos will worry about FSU and the B12 and make the move to a stable conference before that option disappears. And the other spot will still be between UConn, BC and Cuse.

 

[Dann]

maryland grabs some of the DC market. Adding UVA would grab more and seems to make sense to everyone in the realignment rumor world. Rutgers grabs some of the NYC market. Adding UConn would grab more and seems to make no sense to everyone in the realignment rumor world but us.

we have been talking about what u just said a lot. i have refered to it as others have as double down on those 2 markets. what i was lost in was whats double up? vs double down? just a different way to say it or does he have a different opinion on capturing the markets...

 

[ctchamps]

am i wrong that he has a decent track record so far? I thought he was actually in the know acc-wise.

Ask HFD. He keeps track of these guys. The only way I would subscribe to any blogger, tweeter or media type as having an insight to the B!G machinations is if they predicted the RU, MD move a week ahead of time. If it was the same day, that was a favor by Delaney to give them the scoop, as opposed to them being with Delaney or his inner circle of advisors.

 

[Point6]

maryland grabs some of the DC market. Adding UVA would grab more and seems to make sense to everyone in the realignment rumor world. Rutgers grabs some of the NYC market. Adding UConn would grab more and seems to make no sense to everyone in the realignment rumor world but us.

yes, what he said

 

[specialisthusky]

we have been talking about what u just said a lot. i have refered to it as others have as double down on those 2 markets. what i was lost in was whats double up? vs double down? just a different way to say it or does he have a different opinion on capturing the markets...

we're all on the same page i think...just using double up or double down. Funny story about double down...i was in AC one night playing roulette and met the a big wig from KFC who was a die hard Ville fan. We got to talking about the Big East and later I divulged my love of KFC. Til this day i swear I am the first person to find out about the Double Down Sandwich outside of KFC.

 

[Point6]

we have been talking about what u just said a lot. i have refered to it as others have as double down on those 2 markets. what i was lost in was whats double up? vs double down? just a different way to say it or does he have a different opinion on capturing the markets...

sorry just a jargon issue - I'm on board with the program

 

[Rumrunner]

I'll drum up the link to a podcast that McMurphy did a few days after the ACC and Notre Dame announced their agreement. McMurphy was careful to state what he was saying was his opinion. He spent about half an hour with the host answering questions about realignment. He spoke of the Big East media deal, BYU, SEC network...the whole gamut.

He specifically stated that realignment was done except for the Big East looking at BYU/ which would then force mwc to look.

Needless to say he was flat out wrong-unequivocally wrong- and missed the Maryland RU move.

The only people that knew of it were the top people at MD, Delany, RU and that's it. That news was kept quiet from mid September to mid November.

Delany learned from the 2010 feeding frenzy that ocurred when it announced it was looking. Never again, he said.

Look at any of mcmurphy's sources and newsbreaks. None of them comes from the big 10.

Would i rather mcmurphy to tweet "uconn in discussions with big 10"? heck yeah. But am i even a bit worried that he tweeted what he did? Not in the least.

SU, pitt out of blue. Rutgers MD out of blue. McMurphy and twittersphere nowhere to be found until the day before. mcmurphy won't admit it, but he has no idea what the big 10 will do.

McMurphyESPN 5:25pm via TweetDeck
To all responses about UConn/Cincinnati having shot at B1G, they don't. However, they could get pulled up to ACC if B1G expands

Just once I'd love for the conference to make him look like a massive tool by announcing UConn to B1G on Christmas Eve!!!

 

[homunculus]

So McMurphy adds another other statement of "UConn's not getting into the B1G." No reasoning, no support, no facts. Just simply "nope." I have yet to see good evidence as to why UConn has no shot at the B1G. We've seen plenty of evidence as to why they should be a great candidate. When anyone bothers to make an argument as to why not, the strongest one I've seen is because UVA and UNC are better options. Which stopped the B1G from taking Maryland and Rutgers after all.

 

[kyleslamb]

McMurphy has a spotless record when it comes to breaking realignment stories. That said, getting news as it's happening and getting a play-by-play account of what a conference intends to do ahead of time might be two different things.

 

[RMoore1999]

We all have our conceptions about this. Only Delaney knows his. But my thought is if wishes were fishes for Delaney (note the fish reference) his choices in expansion would be ND, then VA, then UNC. The last would be between UConn, BC and Cuse.

I don't see him wanting an island school so GT is out. ND won't join and I doubt UNC would either. So it is VA all the way and only thing that keeps things from moving quicker is the political/legal/monetary situation. I still think VA goes because like us the university people and the politcos will worry about FSU and the B12 and make the move to a stable conference before that option disappears. And the other spot will still be between UConn, BC and Cuse.

I think this is about right, though I don't think delaney cares too much bout islands. He'd look at the ATL like i would Tahiti -- lu$h and green.....

 

[junglehusky]

A couple thoughts... 1) What incentive does the ACC have to agree to possibly reducing MD's $50 mil? Knowing that FSU has a toe out the door already, will this result in Swofford playing hardball, drawing out the process longer than it might take otherwise? If there is something to bring them to the negotiating table, we should hope it will happen sooner rather than later. 2) Does UVA's leadership issues affect the chances they'd start talking to the B1G? Their "board of visitors" is divided in opposing factions, one faction tried to oust the president and succeeded, but then then the board reinstated the pres... a very political situation that involves even the governor. So maybe this means UVA doesn't move on the B1G quickly without a strong president, or maybe it means some player makes a power move and then things accelerate... (?)

 

[ctchamps]

A couple thoughts... 1) What incentive does the ACC have to agree to possibly reducing MD's $50 mil? Knowing that FSU has a toe out the door already, will this result in Swofford playing hardball, drawing out the process longer than it might take otherwise? If there is something to bring them to the negotiating table, we should hope it will happen sooner rather than later. 2) Does UVA's leadership issues affect the chances they'd start talking to the B1G? Their "board of visitors" is divided in opposing factions, one faction tried to oust the president and succeeded, but then then the board reinstated the pres... a very political situation that involves even the governor. So maybe this means UVA doesn't move on the B1G quickly without a strong president, or maybe it means some player makes a power move and then things accelerate... (?)

Good thoughts!!!

This process is not linear as some people are making it out to be. There are a lot of competing opinions even within the institutions, never mind between politicians, various universities within a conference, between conferences and between the various media players. So events are not predictable.

HFD proposed something that didn't receive a lot of attention. What if there is no media contract but the football teams agree to wait until 2015 until dissolving the BE. What happens to Rutgers while Md is going through their lawsuit. Rutgers is bleeding severely as a result of their athletic decision. They will get bailed out when they get into the B!G. But can they ride things out until that happens particularly if they have no revenues coming in from the media? Sandy hurt that state badly and sooner or later the politicians will be forced to make further budget cuts to the university. So Rutgers position is very precarious. Does the B!G take in Rutgers without Md if things drag out? Do they want to take someone with Rutgers so they don't have an unbalanced conference while waiting? Unlikely but who can say for certain.

 

[buggsy]

Good thoughts!!!

This process is not linear as some people are making it out to be. There are a lot of competing opinions even within the institutions, never mind between politicians, various universities within a conference, between conferences and between the various media players. So events are not predictable.

HFD proposed something that didn't receive a lot of attention. What if there is no media contract but the football teams agree to wait until 2015 until dissolving the BE. What happens to Rutgers while Md is going through their lawsuit. Rutgers is bleeding severely as a result of their athletic decision. They will get bailed out when they get into the B!G. But can they ride things out until that happens particularly if they have no revenues coming in from the media? Sandy hurt that state badly and sooner or later the politicians will be forced to make further budget cuts to the university. So Rutgers position is very precarious. Does the B!G take in Rutgers without Md if things drag out? Do they want to take someone with Rutgers so they don't have an unbalanced conference while waiting? Unlikely but who can say for certain.

The Big East TV deal does not expire after this year. It expires on Dec. 31, 2013. RU is expected to join the Big Ten on July 1, 2014, the very next season, so there is no lost TV money that needs to be made up by the school.

Big East teams currently earn 3.12 mm a year under our current contract. For argument's sake, even if Rutgers had to lose a year of TV revenue by waiting until the 2015 season, RU's current athletics spending is 60mm a year with a 27 million a year school subsidy. That 60mm a year is less than 2 percent of the school's $2b annual budget. Losing out on 3mm for one year is about two tenths of 1 percent.... of the school's overall annual budget.

Chump change.

I think RU can swing that, knowing that once they join the Big Ten, they will be making about 12 million in their first year, more than tripling that to 36mm when the BIG's new contract takes effect in 2017...and to an estimated 43 mm a year (the figure given to Rutgers and Maryland by Delany) by 2020, when Rutgers is earning a full share of the league's new TV rights revenue.

 

[lv99]

The reason I think we really do have a decent shot at the Big 10, Big 12, or ACC is the ACC exit fee.

Like junglehusky is saying, what reason does the ACC have to volunatarily lower Maryland's exit fee? I think Maryland gets off for $20 million, because they voted against the increase, but why would the ACC let anyone else (other than Florida State) out for less that the full $53 million?

The Big 12 let its teams go for half, but that was essentially equivalent to what they would have gotten had they waited an extra year. The Big 12 was not dying at that point. They just wanted to move on. West Virginia got away for $20 million, but that was just damages.

The ACC will fight to the death to get the full exit fees. If they don't, it will really be like the death for many of its programs. It's not hard to argue that you need that $53 million because the loss of revenue for most of the ACC schools would easily be $53 million. If the ACC as it exists as a major conference dies, that $53 million is no longer punitive.

If the ACC is locked up, we are one of the best options available.

 

[UConn5]

The exit fee isn't going to prevent the ACC from coming apart if the future of college football is 4 superconferences. Given the amount of revenue at stake, it makes perfect economic sense to eat the $50 million now in exchange for not only more money, but the guarantee that the money will continue flowing in the future. I think any of the big state schools would take an offer from the Big Ten or SEC right now. The difference in revenue is staggering, especially since the ACC is locked into their deal for long time.

 

[upstater]

The Big East TV deal does not expire after this year. It expires on Dec. 31, 2013. RU is expected to join the Big Ten on July 1, 2014, the very next season, so there is no lost TV money that needs to be made up by the school.

Big East teams currently earn 3.12 mm a year under our current contract. For argument's sake, even if Rutgers had to lose a year of TV revenue by waiting until the 2015 season, RU's current athletics spending is 60mm a year with a 27 million a year school subsidy. That 60mm a year is less than 2 percent of the school's $2b annual budget. Losing out on 3mm for one year is about two tenths of 1 percent.... of the school's overall annual budget.

Chump change.

I think RU can swing that, knowing that once they join the Big Ten, they will be making about 12 million in their first year, more than tripling that to 36mm when the BIG's new contract takes effect in 2017...and to an estimated 43 mm a year (the figure given to Rutgers and Maryland by Delany) by 2020, when Rutgers is earning a full share of the league's new TV rights revenue.

First, RU is going to have to swing that, but people make the mistake of looking at a big budget and thinking the athletics losses are chump change. They don't take into account fixed costs. You can't move those billions around because they are tied to faculty costs, research grants, the endowment, facilities, etc. About $100 million is fungible. A loss of $27 million is 27% of the budget that a President has the power to move around. It's a huge hit.