B12 - If we accept invite, in 10 years what is the outcome?

[August_West]

Lol - Pitt won a tournament game this season and Miami played in the friggin final 4 vs someone but I'm forgetting who. West Va made the tournament too.

OOOH they are killing it? w mediocre showings and a 2 million dollar team during the advent of NIL that has zero fan support. Lets move!

 

[HuskyWarrior611]

all of them?

BC
Louisville
Syracuse
Pitt



Virginia Tech
even Miami
West Virginia?

How did 7 teams with so much P5 money make all the same coaching failures?

I don’t think any of these schools performances have gotten better since leaving the Big East.

I’m not sure when Miami and VTech left though. Was that pre The U and Vick or post? Even then those schools have been gone for 20 years. Miami just became kind of relevant in basketball again. In a recruiting hotbed! Football has sucked for years.

 

[ConnHuskBask]

OOOH they are killing it? w mediocre showings and a 2 million dollar team during the advent of NIL that has zero fan support. Lets move!

Yeah, much rather align myself with Final 4 mainstays St. John's, PC, Georgetown and Seton Hall who haven't been relevant since I was in diapers!

 

[HuskyWarrior611]

Long term, probably pieces of Pac10 and ACC.

You mean their scraps that get rejected by the big conferences too? What big name school is the Big 12 going to pull?

Oregon is fighting like hell for the Big Ten to let them on the lifeboat with USC and UCLA.

 

[August_West]

I don’t think any of these schools performances have gotten better since leaving the Big East.

I’m not sure when Miami and VTech left though. Was that pre The U and Vick or post? Even then those schools have been gone for 20 years. Miami just became kind of relevant in basketball again. In a recruiting hotbed! Football has sucked for years.

Miami paid 2 million in NIL for their team last year and drew 4000 a game.

 

[August_West]

Yeah, much rather align myself with Final 4 mainstays St. John's, PC, Georgetown and Seton Hall who haven't been relevant since I was in diapers!

We finally agree

 

[HuskyHawk]

Arent you a Pats fan?

And you dont recognize that as a given instead of a hypothesis?

I'm a Pats fan still waiting for season tickets. They aren't any more available now than they were before.

No, it's not a given. I think UConn fans threw a hissy fit and were angry Louisville was chosen. They reacted badly, and a series of weak teams after Ollie checked out made that much worse. Fans were better in the Perno era than late in the Ollie era.

Big XII would mean playing very good teams, and the fans should accept that. Quality of opponents won't drop. We know it would be packed for KU, but I have to believe it would be packed for other ranked teams too. The energy is mostly back and if UConn is winning, it will be fine.

 

[August_West]

Also: we aren't becoming a top 20-25 football team on a regular basis. I don't expect that. Few programs are in that tier.

So why are we even having this discussion?

 

[August_West]

I'm a Pats fan still waiting for season tickets. They aren't any more available now than they were before.

I dont believe that for a second.

 

[navery12]

An elite 8 and final four would be a disappointing run for us??

You've been on this board long enough, you don't think we'd complain about that lol?

 

[CTBasketball]

I'm a Pats fan still waiting for season tickets. They aren't any more available now than they were before.

No, it's not a given. I think UConn fans threw a hissy fit and were angry Louisville was chosen. They reacted badly, and a series of weak teams after Ollie checked out made that much worse. Fans were better in the Perno era than late in the Ollie era.

Big XII would mean playing very good teams, and the fans should accept that. Quality of opponents won't drop. We know it would be packed for KU, but I have to believe it would be packed for other ranked teams too. The energy is mostly back and if UConn is winning, it will be fine.

That’s the thing. No one cares about Texas Tech, Kansas St, Iowa St, and Baylor.

They also don’t care about us. At all.

 

[CL82]

I don't. I'll root for UConn in the B12 and I'll root for UConn in the Big East. If they banish us to D3 I'll root for us to beat NYU there

Huskies>>>>>Violets

 

[August_West]

That’s the thing. No one cares about Texas Tech, Kansas St, Iowa St, and Baylor.

They also don’t care about us. At all.

nor should they

 

[HuskyWarrior611]

I'm a Pats fan still waiting for season tickets. They aren't any more available now than they were before.

No, it's not a given. I think UConn fans threw a hissy fit and were angry Louisville was chosen. They reacted badly, and a series of weak teams after Ollie checked out made that much worse. Fans were better in the Perno era than late in the Ollie era.

Big XII would mean playing very good teams, and the fans should accept that. Quality of opponents won't drop. We know it would be packed for KU, but I have to believe it would be packed for other ranked teams too. The energy is mostly back and if UConn is winning, it will be fine.

Another recruiting advantage we’d probably be giving up is playing at MSG.

No more Big East tournaments or playing St John’s. Just saying. Instead we’d have to play… where the hell do they play in the Big 12??

Big East basketball means something to me man!

 

[August_West]

Huskies>>>>>Violets

Huskies>>>B12

 

[CL82]

How did the conference commissioner get such a good deal for the conference without Texas and Oklahoma?

Hinted they'd be bringing in Connecticut?

 

[CL82]

Huskies>>>B12

Well let's hope we get a chance to prove that on a consistent basis.

 

[CTBasketball]

nor should they

Has anyone been to Waco TX or Manhattan KS? It’s the literal opposite of Storrs CT.

 

[August_West]

Well let's hope we get a chance to prove that on a consistent basis.

We already do. Daily.

 

[August_West]

Has anyone been to Waco TX or Manhattan KS? It’s the literal opposite of Storrs CT.

I prefer Lubbock

 

[superjohn]

I think there is a zero percent chance that conference affiliation has anything to do with tournament success for a team that gets in 70% of the time. It's not a feasible possibility. If we get in the tournament regularly then we'll get the same shots to go deep we have in the Big East. It makes no difference. The only risk is that fans stop supporting the team as they did when we joined the American. That's it. It's entirely on us. If fans decide that they want to see us play #20 Xavier instead of #19 K-State, and don't show up, the program will suffer. I'm hoping our fans won't react that way.

Also: we aren't becoming a top 20-25 football team on a regular basis. I don't expect that. Few programs are in that tier.

I'm describing Providence under Cooley and Seton Hall under Willard. Teams that make it most years but make no noise. I'm describing a scenario where Big 12 membership hurts UConn where they're still a good team but never a threat to win it all.

I don't think it's totally out of the realm of possibility that UConn gets major juice in football under Mora with a move to the Big 12 where they are pretty regularly ranked in that 20-25 range.

These are hypotheticals. Maybe doesn't end up exactly the way I'm describing but would you take UConn getting a major boost in football while remaining good in basketball but no longer being a threat of ever winning it all?

 

[FearThePups]

Great point. 1 out of the last 14 national championship game winners was a school that puts football above basketball, Baylor.

If we take out the $30M a year we would be getting in the B12, how many of you would still want to leave the Big East? Is it really all about the money or is there something I’m missing here?

 

[HuskyWarrior611]

You've been on this board long enough, you don't think we'd complain about that lol?

The only gripe people really had was not making it out the first round.

I love the fact that Hurley figured it out this year and won us a championship. He has us setup for long term success truly. But that doesn’t make everyone who pointed out the things he needed to change (that he did for us to win) wrong previously.

That’s all I have to say on that matter in this thread. Point is, not one team that has left the Big East improved by doing so. Especially immediately.

 

[HuskyHawk]

I dont believe that for a second.

Doesn't matter what you believe. I've been waiting 10 years or so. Club seats can be had. That's a function of money.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

I really need someone to explain with some real detail how shy of coaching malfeasance, moving to a top basketball conference and having more money to spend on coaching salaries and recruiting will kill the men's basketball program.

Hell, I need someone to explain how it would make us less competitive.