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There is this great assumption that everyone wants 16 teams...yet no one has done it.

I just don't see it happening.

Make no mistake about it, Jim Delany would absolutely take the B1G to 16 RIGHT NOW, provided he could get teams he wanted. Namely Carolina and Virginia.

Or, he could also grab UConn, and, one more from another group of schools, to get there.

Or, he could take the league all the way to 20.
 
There is this great assumption that everyone wants 16 teams...yet no one has done it.

I just don't see it happening.

It's not an assumption. It's a desire spoken by the conferences themselves. Both the B1G and the ACC heads have talked about 16 being desirable.
 
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I remember that game. Almost had a heart attach. That kid went off like nobody's business and just started thowing it up once he got past half court. Talk crap to Ray Allen and backing it up.

Elijah Allen, but it was 1998 and Ray Allen was already in Milwaukee. He scored 43 and I think his previous career high was 25. And he did it mostly on Ricky Moore, who clearly went into the offseason determined to never, ever let anything like that happen again.
 
There is this great assumption that everyone wants 16 teams...yet no one has done it.

I just don't see it happening.
Not sure if you remember but the Pac-12 was considering going to 16 very strongly not too long ago by adding Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State.
 
Ughh. Go away. It's bad enough we have to be in a conference with you. Do you have to be on our message board?

Gotta say, I feel the same way as you about our conference affiliation but that seemed a little uncalled for.
 
Not sure if you remember but the Pac-12 was considering going to 16 very strongly not too long ago by adding Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State.

He/she obviously did not know, or else, he/she would not have made that prior statement.
 
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Gotta say, I feel the same way as you about our conference affiliation but that seemed a little uncalled for.

You're right. I think I'm burned out on conference realignment.
 
Elijah Allen, but it was 1998 and Ray Allen was already in Milwaukee. He scored 43 and I think his previous career high was 25. And he did it mostly on Ricky Moore, who clearly went into the offseason determined to never, ever let anything like that happen again.

Found this on youtube.

 
UConn actually played Fairleigh Dickinson in an early First Round NCAA game ... as I remember. They had a small kid that threw up lots of shots.

Point of Parliamentary Procedure: Is there even such a thing as an early first round game?
 
Attendance for tonight's game against FDU was 466.
FDU is in Northern Jersey so probably about a 50 minute drive. Wouldn't be shocked if some of those 466 were friends and family from the area. It's just unbelievable.....
 
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Point of Parliamentary Procedure: Is there even such a thing as an early first round game?
sure... there are 32 games over two days in the first round (in 1998). early first round means day one and probably the noon game. as opposed to game #32 at 11:00pm on Friday.
 
Not sure if you remember but the Pac-12 was considering going to 16 very strongly not too long ago by adding Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State.

And notice it DID NOT happen...
 
And notice it DID NOT happen...
...because Texas wouldn't budge, not because the Pac-12 opted against it.

I think the power conferences are fine at 12 or 14 or any other even number, but they would all expand to 16 if it makes sense. So far, no scenario has prompted them to make that move, but that doesn't mean it won't happen.

You're being a little hopeful that the AAC will be a permanent fixture. It might be, but I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.
 
...because Texas wouldn't budge, not because the Pac-12 opted against it.

I think the power conferences are fine at 12 or 14 or any other even number, but they would all expand to 16 if it makes sense. So far, no scenario has prompted them to make that move, but that doesn't mean it won't happen.

You're being a little hopeful that the AAC will be a permanent fixture. It might be, but I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.

If it ever becomes permanent, UConn will depart for a more regional conference.
 
If it ever becomes permanent, UConn will depart for a more regional conference.
UConn, UMass, Buffalo, Temple, Cincinatti, ECU, USF, UCF, ARMY, NAVY. Makes more sense than what we have now and im sure it could command similar money.
 
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As a university that would love to get a miracle life raft to the B1G, do we want Rutgers to suck so bad and draw so few that it even makes Delany re-think his strategy of eastward expansion? Or at the very least strengthen the resolve of the Presidents who want to keep it a midwest conference as much as possible?
I sure hope he starts rethinking his approach.

He's not going to stop trying for New York. It's too late to go back on that now that Rutgers is in the conference. But maybe he'll stop trying with raw population numbers and will turn to content/performance. We can't forget his quote about pursuing championships in all sports. We have always known that the addition of RU and MD was to get the "B1G boys" on DC/NY/NJ/Philly/Baltimore TV screens, not for pursuing championships, and now he has the bridges to expand contiguously for some actual contenders. If the B1G goes to 20 when the Big 12 GoR is up, I could see him going after UVA and UNC (now bridged by MD), UConn (now bridged by RU), and KU, OU and Texas (now bridged by Nebraska). I think we should not overlook the only B1G expansions since PSU in 1993. The ONLY things that the three schools have in common is their flagship status and contiguity with the footprint. But if you look just beyond, you see that these additions very well may have been calculated moves to eventually set up the addition of their much more desired neighbors, who would be geographically unavailable otherwise. Delany's just been working with what he has now, while UConn sucks at football, lacks AAU, and is discontiguous with PA; UVA, UNC, Texas, KU and OU bound in GORs and discontiguous with PA and Iowa; and Rutgers needed a life raft and MD had an impulsive president (and promising markets).

Imagine an East division of Indiana, MSU, Mich, OSU, PSU, RU, UConn, MD, UVA and UNC, and a West division of Purdue, Illinois, NW, Iowa, Wisconsin, Minn, Nebraska, KU, OU and Texas. The only way you could make a stronger top-to-bottom conference for basketball and football is if you took the 20 best schools from the ACC and SEC.

edit: maybe something like Miami, Florida, FSU, Georgia, Clemson, SC, Duke, VT, Cuse, UK, Louisville, Mizzou, LSU, Bama, Auburn, Tennessee, Memphis, Arkansas, Mississippi, NC State. But even then, there are several states with multiple teams in them. But that's what the B1G will force if they can establish this kind of footprint.

Rutgers is failing before they can even start. If UConn can't capture NY for the B1G, nobody can. We really are Delany's only option and always have been. I'm sure he knows this. Cuse is in the ACC and is the only other plausible school that could do so (although we all know NY doesn't care about Cuse like Cuse likes to think anyway)
 
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Remembers Delany's word's..."long haul addition's"I firmly believe Uconn's next!!!1 year ,a scandal there, don't matter in the long run.
 
It is worse.

Much worse.

As bad as UConn football is, UConn actually had a .500 record or better against the top teams that just left, like Pitt, Syracuse and Louisville. Rutgers basketball on the other hand has done nothing but finish at the bottom of the conference. UConn football actually finished first in the BE twice. Rutgers bball hasn't even managed the fourth quartile.

UConn has been touted by the AAU recently as having a new model for AAU schools.

Now you sound like me. You can expand that Rutgers explanation to football and all the olympic sports too.

I can remember the conversation I had with you where you thought Rutgers would have been a better addition to the ACC than Syracuse. I didn't think so then, and I don't now. I said that Temple would be just as good. I still think so.

I hope UConn gets into the AAU, and if UConn wants in the Big Ten an invite. I'd like to see UConn in the ACC myself. I regard the ACC as the best conference. But UConn should go where it will be the most happy.
 
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I hope UConn gets into the AAU, and if UConn wants in the Big Ten an invite. I'd like to see UConn in the ACC myself. I regard the ACC as the best conference. But UConn should go where it will be the most happy.
I think UConn won't have a choice in where they go and will take anywhere that will take us and is a P5 conference! Hopefully it turns into a possible option but all likelihood it will be whoever sends the lifeboat first.
 
Found this on youtube.



Good Grief, he never even hit the rim the whole night (until the 4-point play at the end, but in fairness he was fouled on that one). Thank Goodness we scored a bunch ourselves.
 
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...because Texas wouldn't budge, not because the Pac-12 opted against it.

I think the power conferences are fine at 12 or 14 or any other even number, but they would all expand to 16 if it makes sense. So far, no scenario has prompted them to make that move, but that doesn't mean it won't happen.

You're being a little hopeful that the AAC will be a permanent fixture. It might be, but I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.

Actually, while Texas wouldn't budge, Larry Scott had 4 schools lined up to go to to the Pac-12 (I think it was OU, OSU, TAMU, and Tech) but got vetoed by the Pac-12 school presidents.

Goes to show that there's multiple parts to the puzzle and that the conference commissioner doesn't have free reign.
 
Actually, while Texas wouldn't budge, Larry Scott had 4 schools lined up to go to to the Pac-12 (I think it was OU, OSU, TAMU, and Tech) but got vetoed by the Pac-12 school presidents.

Goes to show that there's multiple parts to the puzzle and that the conference commissioner doesn't have free reign.

A decision they'll regret if they ever end up having to add Boise St. and UNLV.
 
My guess is that the are 13 university presidents that have been tying up Delaney's phone line the last few weeks asking him wtf he was thinking inviting Rutgers.
 
My guess is that the are 13 university presidents that have been tying up Delaney's phone line the last few weeks asking him wtf he was thinking inviting Rutgers.
Because RU has a 50.8 historical winning percentage, which is more wins than losses!

At least that's the only irrefutable argument RU fans ever come up with around here
 
And their Rivals site always has a lot of members online. Rutgers has that going for it. What else?
 
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