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uconngb said:
Dude, I'm seriously F'ng with everyone....only saying that it's not like this conf is so bad and we are so great that we have mowed down all the competition. That is seriously factual. Of curse we don't belong in this conference, I just wish our record proved it out so someone would come save us!!
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This is very fair, but not what you were arguing before. We are all on edge because our relegation to AAA has coincided with our depleted roster due to the ban. We could be entering a new golden age for the program if we were in a good conference but instead could realistically become irrelevant in the next ten years, due to our screwing over in realignment. Thankfully we got lucky with Brimah's 3 point play because I wouldn't want to imagine the present if we flamed out vs. SJU.
 
walker11 said:
This is very fair, but not what you were arguing before. We are all on edge because our relegation to AAA has coincided with our depleted roster due to the ban. We could be entering a new golden age for the program if we were in a good conference but instead could realistically become irrelevant in the next ten years, due to our screwing over in realignment. Thankfully we got lucky with Brimah's 3 point play because I wouldn't want to imagine the present if we flamed out vs. SJU.
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was not trying to say we are the same as Houston. Just that we should be killing this conf, frustrated as hell that we're not, and worried that we might be stuck here. Fishy right, longer it goes on, more likely we drift down then they drift up. We need a savior.
 
walker11 said:
God, I am a sucker. We are a bad team this year. No sh__. It is a down year, and it would be no matter the conference. Do you know that in the past 25 years, where we have had 4 Championships and 11 top-2 seeds, we have one stint where we went to the tournament more than 3x in a row. We have bad seasons, and this is one of them, and you are trying to argue that we belong in a conference with ECU, Tulane, etc. because of it.
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The problem when referring to those 11 top-2 seeds is this: in the 20 years from 1990-2009, we earned a top-2 seed 11 times (and 9 times in 13 years from 1994-2006). In the 6 years since, we have been a top-2 seed 0 times.

Now, in those 6 years, we also have 2 championships, but winning championships from low seeds is not a sustainable mode of success going forward.

Referring to the OP's rant, I understand the embarrassment of having been a middle-of-the-road team for 2 years running in a conference we should dominate. We're not exactly trumpeting to the college basketball landscape that we're comically out of place among these other schools. That said, any college basketball fan who has followed the sport for 10+ years understands the history and knows we don't belong. Unfortunately, there are also more than enough people (opposing fans, media) who relish the idea of us fading into oblivion.
 
Kentucky lost a combined 12 conference games over the last two seasons (not including this year, obviously). Would anybody argue that they have not dominated (along with Florida, to a lesser degree) the SEC historically?

It should also be worth noting that SMU, Louisville, and Cincinnati have combined to hand us seven of our twelve conference losses. The latter two are storied programs, and the former is coached by a Hall of Famer and slowly gaining traction as a nationally relevant program. It isn't as if we're routinely losing to schools like Tulane and Central Florida, the ones that have beaten us tend to have been among the holdovers from the Big East or coached by a Hall of Famer. Houston, I cannot explain, but at least we beat them by like 50 in their return game last year in case anybody thought they belonged.
 
Funny thread - 2 wars going on. One which was won as soon as Fishy threw UofM to the ground with a punch in the throat and one amongst 2 upon fans willing to duke it out until opening practice in October. :eek:
 
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The nationwide consensus on CR was that we were screwed worse than anyone in CBB. That said we have to recognize as painful as it is that Giffey, Bazz, Daniels, and Boat are former Big East recruits. No them, no title last year. Now we have to recruit and play our way to the top of this forsaken conference and stick it in everyone else's eye because that's the way our teams have always responded to adversity. KO gets the proper ammunition and he can coach it up. The original premise of this is that we belong here until we prove ourselves which is false because we never belonged here, but we can't be a middle of the pack team in this league even in a down year. KO and staff have to recruit, plain and simple. We don't need 5 more players, two more of the right ones on top of already committed can do it. I like Memphis because I used to live there, but they need to shut up and win something, in other words do something more than get blown out by UCLA in a national championship game 40 years ago.
 
I think its 2 folds. 1 we obviously lost some really good talent from our championship run. Giffey and Daniels did a lot more to help with our chip run then a lot realize (Kromah too). We lack those players right now and role players that are left this year aren't as affective without those guys and obviously without Napier. Its just what happens to most teams not named Kentucky after winning or competing for a chip.
Secondly I truly believe the conference brings us down. In the old big east we were competing against high caliber teams, ranked teams all the time. So a quality win against a ranked team really gives your team a huge boost and more respect. However in the AAC we are constantly playing tough games against non ranked teams. Most teams just don't run the table, regardless of what conference you are in, so a few losses in the AAC hurts a lot more then they would in other conferences with more highly ranked teams. Obviously this team just isn't the best we've had. But I do think if you take this same exact team and put them in a better conference,they would be competing at a higher level more consistently and would be ncaa tournament bound.

If Duke were in the AAC and lost to temple and SMU (which I don't think is impossible), and lost some nail biters to other ranked team OOC you think they'd be ranked so high? Having the opportunity to redeem yourself against other good teams on the reg helps a lot. UConn doesn't have this opportunity in the AAC.
 
uconngb said:
Then why aren't we blowing all those directional teams away? Including last year, when we had a team capable of winning it all.
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Fishy said:
F--- you.

Your scandal-ridden, won-nothing, community college shouldn't even be allowed inside the border of our state.

Do you know why the Big East never answered the phone when Memphis came begging year after year after year?

Because you're everything that's ever been wrong with college athletics.

Go away.
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I bet that felt great!
 
mauconnfan said:
Funny thread - 2 wars going on. One which was won as soon as Fishy threw UofM to the ground with a punch in the throat and one amongst 2 upon fans willing to duke it out until opening practice in October. :eek:
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I need more coffee to deal with these idiots...
 
whaler11 said:
Congrats uconngb. You now agree with this fella.

Because 30 mediocre regular season games mean as much as the past 20 years...

Especially when in the middle
of those games... they you know... won a national championship.

Memphis did remove the ashtrays from some classrooms this year, so they are on the upswing. #americanrising
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I wish they would put the ashtrays backs...smoking made class bearable.
 
uconngb said:
Then why aren't we blowing all those directional teams away? Including last year, when we had a team capable of winning it all.
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Part of the master plan! We lull the favorites into believing we are patsies and then steam roll them in the tournament.

Gives a few of the believers in this forum the opportunity to make decent change when Vegas says 100:1!

And it gives us historical creed to have a low seed win it all. Now we can say we won it in many ways in different conferences!

That's not arrogance that's history! Cuse and their fans would easily trade places with this history including last season's outcome with their printed t shirt and the ACC landing. Don't kid yourself. Our sour grapes are superior to theirs!
 
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uconngb said:
Talk about Freudian slip....I said of "curse" instead of of "course". I nominate myself to be hanged
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That's my realm. You can't have it.
 
UofMemphis said:
I don't b#%@$ about sharing a conference with them.

I'm happy to be in a football conference that features UCF, Cincy, ECU, Houston, Navy, Memphis, etc.

I'm happy to be in a hoops conference that features UConn, Cincy, Temple, Memphis, SMU, Tulsa, etc.
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You've never even smelled anything as sweet as the BE
Any school that hires the Squid isnt worth their weight in cow crap - Kensucky has taken a HUGE step backwards within the integrity of their program the minute the Squid signed that dotted line.
Memphis has such a checkered history - way before the Squid.
Coming from where Memphis has been, I can fully understand why it's fans would really enjoy the AAC.
However, at UConn, where it sits easily as a top 10 program of all time, being in this conference is not where it's fan base deserves or where it wants to be.
I don't give a rats what the teams record is overall in the AAC. EVERY team guns for UConn and UConn sees every teams A game. I hardly think the fans of other teams salivate at the thought of playing Temple or Memphis vs playing UConn or Cinci.
Recruiting has been compromised for UConn and Cinci being in this conference - without a doubt. The other teams can brag to the recuits they get to play vs the 4 time NCAA champ or a storied Cinci - what does UConn have to sell with the conference? SMU and their flash in the pan success? Tulsa who may be seeing their best days in the rearview mirror? Memphis who hires a coach in order to entice his kids?
If you're happy to be in the AAC - more power to you. That doesn't mean those of us who have played in the big house and were extremely successful while doing so can be satisfied with the status quo.
So as the adage goes - until you have walked in our shoes...................
 
UofMemphis said:
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I need more coffee to deal with these idiots...
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The fact that you have more posts as a Memphis fan on a UConn board than most of our regulars do is the real facepalm here, besides uconngb's idiotic thread to begin with.
 
BUHusky10 said:
The fact that you have more posts as a Memphis fan on a UConn board than most of our regulars do is the real facepalm here, besides uconngb's idiotic thread to begin with.
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You should see my 33,000+ posts on the Memphis board.
 
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Cool, we have never had this thread before, glad we are exploring new topics around here.

Hey, did you guys hear that Purvis was compared to a Ferrari, crazy right? Let's touch on that subject too!
 
In summation:

I am he as you are he as you are me
And we are all together
See how they run like pigs from a gun
See how PN fly
I'm crying!
 
This conference is an abomination compared to the old big east. How do the players get up for conference games in the middle of Texas or Oklahoma? I don't think I would be at my best making all of these mid week trips from Connecticut if I was playing. I just remember last year our Texas trip losing to Houston and SMU. I don't remember those games being particularly close at all. How does a team that can't beat Houston or SMU on the road win the national title? It's simple...games at SMU and Houston don't really matter. It's a waste of our time. We can be good enough to win it all but still not be able to win those games. The players and coaches are clearly not at their best in front of these half empty arenas over 2k miles away against teams we have no history with. We play all these unwinnable games that prove nothing about how good or bad of a team we are. This is why this conference is a terrible fit for us. We have no business making all of these road trips west of the Mississippi.
The more it is apparent how bad of a fit this conference is for us, the more it will hurt our recruiting. We need out ASAP.
 
UofMemphis said:
I see UConn fall to teams like SMU, Houston, Tulsa, Memphis, etc...and I wonder where the arrogance comes from...congrats on your titles, but UConn is not 'above' the AAC and the record shows as much.
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I'd like to go to a memphis home game when they play uconn and see that lone final four banner from the days with calipari... Oh wait...
 
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Everyone has to calm down! We are at the infancy of the conference. How would peoples's preception of this conference change if some of SMU, Temple, Tulsa, Cincy or UCONN (hopefully) go deep into the tourney? I know we have weak teams in the bottom of the conference but what conference doesn't? These weaker teams will start recruiting better when they have a UCONN, Memphis, Cincy in there league. In turn the conference will overall become stronger. It is a selling point. I believe we give this conference and couple more years and see what happens
 
UConnSwag11 said:
I'd like to go to a memphis home game when they play uconn and see that lone final four banner from the days with calipari... Oh wait...
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70's - Gene Bartow lead Memphis to an NCAA Runner Up appearance with Larry Finch and Ronnie Robinson.

80's - Dana Kirk lead Memphis to 3 Sweet 16's and a Final Four with Keith Lee.

90's - Larry Finch took Memphis to an Elite Eight and a Sweet 16 with Penny Hardaway and Elliot Perry.

2000's - you guys know about Calipari's 4 year run at Memphis.

Memphis is NOT a blue blood (UConn is)...but we're also no 'one hit wonder' as we have over 40 years of sustained success.
 
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UofMemphis said:
70's - Gene Bartow lead Memphis to an NCAA Runner Up appearance with Larry Finch and Ronnie Robinson.

80's - Dana Kirk lead Memphis to 3 Sweet 16's and a Final Four with Keith Lee.

90's - Larry Finch took Memphis to an Elite Eight and a Sweet 16 with Penny Hardaway and Elliot Perry.

2000's - you guys know about Calipari's 4 year run at Memphis.

Memphis is NOT a blue blood (UConn is)...but we're also no 'one hit wonder' as we have over 40 years of sustained success.
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I agree, Memphis is no slouch. They have a much much better history of success than a lot of the members of our old conference, specifically, PC, Hall, Depaul, St. Johns.
 
I say the aac will get better as long as nobody leaves it. According to 24/7 there are 6 teams in the top 48 classes for 2015.
 
UConnSwag11 said:
I'd like to go to a memphis home game when they play uconn and see that lone final four banner from the days with calipari... Oh wait...
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You'll see a Final Four banner from 1973.

There'll be two empty spaces where they tried to hang a couple of other banners, but were told to take them down because, well, cheating.
 
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