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NotADime89 said:
He averaged 5pts 4 rebounds a game. If Croswell is the one guarding Sanogo he will go off for 30pts against him. PC really doesn't have anyone to guard a good post player if the opposing team has one.
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What do his offensive stats have to do with him guarding Sanogo? You are clueless here.
 
BIIIG said:
What do his offensive stats have to do with him guarding Sanogo? You are clueless here.
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Not sure, you were the one that brought up his offensive stats and I just countered that point. My initial argument was they have nobody to guard Sanogo
 
NotADime89 said:
Not sure, you were the one that brought up his offensive stats and I just countered that point. My initial argument was they have nobody to guard Sanogo
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Thats fair, but what about the article i shared where Kansas talking about Croswell's physicality changing that game and getting Providence back into it ... cause then you just went to crickets unless it was badgering anyone else for having an opinion
 
Croswell wont stay on the court long enough to put up 10 pts lmao. Guy can't go more than one possession without a stupid foul. The downgrade from Nate to him is massive considering that Croswell will be on the bench by the first TV timeout most games in foul trouble
 
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BIIIG said:
Thats fair, but what about the article i shared where Kansas talking about Croswell's physicality changing that game and getting Providence back into it ... cause then you just went to crickets unless it was badgering anyone else for having an opinion
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An article with one Cooley quote doesn't change my opinion on him. Yeah he did play physical, 4 fouls in 19 minutes. What does that have to do with him guarding a 1st team all BE and KAJ candidate? Sanogo will eat him for lunch
 
MJKI said:
Croswell wont stay on the court long enough to put up 10 pts lmao. Guy can't go more than one possession without a stupid foul. The downgrade from Nate to him is massive considering that Croswell will be on the bench by the first TV timeout most games in foul trouble
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That's exactly my point Watson and Croswell are not in the same league.
 
NotADime89 said:
An article with one Cooley quote doesn't change my opinion on him. Yeah he did play physical, 4 fouls in 19 minutes. What does that have to do with him guarding a 1st team all BE and KAJ candidate? Sanogo will eat him for lunch
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I would think him helping hold a first team all tournament guy, and national champion to 8pts would have something to do with what he is able to do defensively.
 
BIIIG said:
I would think him helping hold a first team all tournament guy, and national champion to 8pts would have something to do with what he is able to do defensively.
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He also had 4 fouls in 18 minutes of play. It's infinitely easier to come off the bench and provide an energetic spark defensively than to be the guy doing that for the majority of the game. Even being a defensive spark he managed to give away 8 free throws in 18 minutes. That is pathetic and will hurt the team significantly
 
MJKI said:
Croswell wont stay on the court long enough to put up 10 pts lmao. Guy can't go more than one possession without a stupid foul. The downgrade from Nate to him is massive considering that Croswell will be on the bench by the first TV timeout most games in foul trouble
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Crowell vs. UConn this year
15min 5-6FG, 11pts, ...1 FOUL

good point man
 
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MJKI said:
He also had 4 fouls in 18 minutes of play. It's infinitely easier to come off the bench and provide an energetic spark defensively than to be the guy doing that for the majority of the game. Even being a defensive spark he managed to give away 8 free throws in 18 minutes. That is pathetic and will hurt the team significantly
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Was just typing up a similar post.

Croswell was highly effective in his minutes last year. The per 40 stats as listed above were good and his on/off stats were eye-opening. However, as mentioned he was incredibly foul prone. He will have to play more carefully as the starter, which will likely hurt his productivity to some extent, if he can even do it. But he will be serviceable at worst, and he will be tough to keep off the boards.

Moore is a legit high-level shotblocker who also limits his own fouls, at least at the mid-major level. He's going to be a problem in the paint. He could give Kalkbrenner a battle for DPOY. He just either needs to make more of his 3-point attempts or cut them out completely.

The 2 should form a nice offense/defense platoon.
 
so he went from not being able to score 10pts ever ... to well we should just omit the time he did it because it doesn't fit your narrative (against UConn no less, guy has scored double digits plenty of times....and WERE TALKING DEFENSE ANYWAYS). Last week some guy got ripped apart in here for excluding losses the team had last year when bouknight wasn't playing when evaluating bouknight. But now excluding games IS allowed cause it fits your argument. I swear there is no consistency here. You pick which ever method fits your narrative. Im not saying Croswell is a stud by any means, and based on other ppl chiming in (even tho you don't want them to for some weird reason) Moore will likely be starting and Croswell will be playing the same roll he did last year, but only with more experience. I think they've put together a very solid team and have someho
 
NotADime89 said:
An article with one Cooley quote doesn't change my opinion on him. Yeah he did play physical, 4 fouls in 19 minutes. What does that have to do with him guarding a 1st team all BE and KAJ candidate? Sanogo will eat him for lunch
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How many fouls does he commit per 40 minutes?
 
BIIIG said:
so he went from not being able to score 10pts ever ... to well we should just omit the time he did it because it doesn't fit your narrative (against UConn no less, guy has scored double digits plenty of times....and WERE TALKING DEFENSE ANYWAYS). Last week some guy got ripped apart in here for excluding losses the team had last year when bouknight wasn't playing when evaluating bouknight. But now excluding games IS allowed cause it fits your argument. I swear there is no consistency here. You pick which ever method fits your narrative. Im not saying Croswell is a stud by any means, and based on other ppl chiming in (even tho you don't want them to for some weird reason) Moore will likely be starting and Croswell will be playing the same roll he did last year, but only with more experience. I think they've put together a very solid team and have someho
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No BIIIG, it didn't fit YOUR narrative
 
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MJKI said:
No BIIIG, it didn't fit YOUR narrative
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you said the guy wont be able to score 10 pts cause he's in foul trouble always .... i come at you with a game where he scored over 10 and only had 1 foul, then you guys said it doesnt count casue sanogo didn't play. Well we're talking about providence not just providnece vs. uconn. soooooo seems like you are the one changing the narrative, if you arent well...

against Texas Tech 11pts 3 fouls
against URI 13pts 2 fouls
against UConn 11pts 1 foul
against Marquette 11pts 3 fouls
against Georgetown 15pts 3fouls
against Butler 10pts 1 foul
against Xavier 10pts 3fouls

where all of their big men hurt so they dont count or were you just arguing baselessly?
 
BIIIG said:
you said the guy wont be able to score 10 pts cause he's in foul trouble always .... i come at you with a game where he scored over 10 and only had 1 foul, then you guys said it doesnt count casue sanogo didn't play. Well we're talking about providence not just providnece vs. uconn. soooooo seems like you are the one changing the narrative, if you arent well...

against Texas Tech 11pts 3 fouls
against URI 13pts 2 fouls
against UConn 11pts 1 foul
against Marquette 11pts 3 fouls
against Georgetown 15pts 3fouls
against Butler 10pts 1 foul
against Xavier 10pts 3fouls

where all of their big men hurt so they dont count or were you just arguing baselessly?
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All of this is with the benefit of coming off of the bench; the game is going to change for him significantly without the aide of Watson taking the majority of the minutes. That's the point we're making. It's not that hard to see
 
BIIIG said:
Im not saying Croswell is a stud by any means, and based on other ppl chiming in (even tho you don't want them to for some weird reason) Moore will likely be starting and Croswell will be playing the same roll he did last year, but only with more experience.
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BIIIG said:
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Don't act like that was your argument. You took what MrSEC said and added it to yours. Its obvious you had no clue who Moore was when you starting dying on the Croswell hill. Here is your initial argument

BIIIG said:
I think Ed Croswell gonna slide right into that roll a lot easier than you think. Per 40 min he was averaging 14ppg, and 12.7rpg to Watsons 7.4rpg per 40. Croswell is definitely a dropoff scoring wise compared to Watson but with all the guards they picked up they may not need to rely on the post scoring the way they did last year. College hoops is a guards game afterall
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Chief00 said:
Yes, Ed has done a good job in the portal. He identified his targets and signed many of them.
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What's going on with us and the portal? Been awful quite lately. Anyone think that the staff knows of someone who hasn't hit the portal yet?
 
NotADime89 said:
Don't act like that was your argument. You took what MrSEC said and added it to yours. Its obvious you had no clue who Moore was when you starting dying on the Croswell hill. Here is your initial argument
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uhhh, was pretty transparent with everything
BIIIG said:
and based on other ppl chiming in (even tho you don't want them to for some weird reason) Moore will likely be starting and Croswell will be playing the same roll he did last year, but only with more experience. I think they've put together a very solid team and have someho
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seems like i acknowledged someone else made a point, listened, and updated my thoughts on the matter. That being said, from the jump I never said he was gonna be a stud, in fact I emphasized that point throughout
BIIIG said:
Croswell is definitely a dropoff scoring wise compared to Watson but with all the guards they picked up they may not need to rely on the post scoring the way they did last year. College hoops is a guards game afterall
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BIIIG said:
Im not saying Croswell is a stud by any means
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Meanwhile you got mad when other ppl chirped in.
NotADime89 said:
Stay out of the conversation
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This isn't some one on one battle, its a discussion. How am i being blamed for updated my thoughts and listening to other ppl's points of views to educate myself on the topic, when you're TRYING TO SILENCE THE PEOPLE. I think Croswell is going to be a decent piece for them next year and I'm fairly confident he's going to surprise a few boneyard posters if this is how he's currently being seen.
 
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new mexico st didnt have a guy to stop sanogo, and yet......

I think Croswell/Moore is a perfectly capable big east center duo, and I don't anticipate UConn taking the matchup lightly. Maybe you guys will. Providence is going to have a good team again. Would like to actually beat them or Creighton instead of just talking about how we were better 8 years ago
 
Yeah I dont get it, was told Croswell couldn't score 10 cause of foul trouble, so I list a game he doesn't have foul trouble and scores 10, and it doesn't count cause sanogo wasn't playing. So suddenly his kryptonite is sanogo, not foul trouble. So then I list other games where he scores 10 and stays out of foul trouble, and those don't count cause he was off the bench. So now his krytponite is not coming off the bench, event though it was sanogo earlier, and before that it was foul trouble. Even tho to begin with I even said yeah he's a drop off from watson scoring. But IM the one changing the argument to fit my narrative.
 
Beowulf said:
new mexico st didnt have a guy to stop sanogo, and yet......

I think Croswell/Moore is a perfectly capable big east center duo, and I don't anticipate UConn taking the matchup lightly. Maybe you guys will. Providence is going to have a good team again. Would like to actually beat them or Creighton instead of just talking about how we were better 8 years ago
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New Mexico State did have a guy to stop Sanogo, and he just followed Jans to Mississippi State
 
navery12 said:
New Mexico State did have a guy to stop Sanogo, and he just followed Jans to Mississippi State
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Sanogo stopped himself the last few games of the year. If you think that kid is supposed to stop him then you don't think very highly of Sanogo.
 
navery12 said:
New Mexico State did have a guy to stop Sanogo, and he just followed Jans to Mississippi State
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so averaging 7/5 at new mexico st is a certified sanogo stopper, but averaging whatever croswell did at providence means sanogo gonna hang 30 on them twice??

i'm being facetious - and i dont think you've personally claimed any of this, but still. Was not expecting to see so many passionate backup center opinions on a transfer thread but here we are.

overall point is that providence is fine, if they feel they need frontcourt depth i'm sure they will find it in the portal (same with us with guards). and if anyone wants to bet on Sanogo hanging 30 on Prov, feel free to PM me.
 
Beowulf said:
so averaging 7/5 at new mexico st is a certified sanogo stopper, but averaging whatever croswell did at providence means sanogo gonna hang 30 on them twice??

i'm being facetious - and i dont think you've personally claimed any of this, but still. Was not expecting to see so many passionate backup center opinions on a transfer thread but here we are.

overall point is that providence is fine, if they feel they need frontcourt depth i'm sure they will find it in the portal (same with us with guards). and if anyone wants to bet on Sanogo hanging 30 on Prov, feel free to PM me.
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Yeah I haven't been following that whole Crosswell argument so have no opinion there
 
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