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nelsonmuntz said:
Does a school being "under investigation" really matter anymore? All the schools can legally pay their players if they want. What rule is there to break?
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Yes. And if they are looking for a reason to can someone even more so.
 
bobbyinaz said:
arizonasports.com

Timeline: ASU football fallout amid investigation into recruiting violations

The Arizona State Sun Devils' 2021 football season was played under a dark, looming cloud that looks to have turned into a full-blown storm.
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This one may actually be a bigger deal than most other "normal" NCAA violations because they did it during the pandemic.
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Has there ever been an SEC coach fired for buying a player plane tickets? Ever?

Didn't one of Bruce Pearl's assistants get arrested for a kickback scheme involving a wealth manager that was embezzling from former players?
 
ScottVib said:
These early firings are more about getting someone new in place ASAP so the new coach can hit the ground running in recruiting. At least, that was the original justification I saw.
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If a coach has to go, the coach has to go. I am not arguing for letting a coach finish the year because it is the right thing to do or something stupid like that. I am saying that firing a coach off a bad loss is stupid. What new information is there about Scott Frost or Herm Edwards that we didn't have before they lost to Georgia Southern and Eastern Michigan? Nothing has changed with either coach, but the AD's are having temper tantrums. I don't think Frost is a big time coach, but if Alberts was going to start the season with him, why on earth would he fire Frost 3 weeks before the buyout drops by $7.5 million. If I was a big time Nebraska booster, I would want Alberts shot into space for doing something so freaking stupid.

The "violations" story on Edwards feels very UConn/Ollie-esque. The school decided they don't like the coach and is manufacturing a reason to fire him. Not my circus, not my clown, so I don't care that much, but I do think if they wanted Edwards gone then they should have fired him last spring. Why do it now and basically burn a whole season?
 
ScottVib said:
These early firings are more about getting someone new in place ASAP so the new coach can hit the ground running in recruiting. At least, that was the original justification I saw.
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Exactly. With the portal and NIL, you fire the old coach when it becomes obvious it ain't working and take a month or two at most to name the next head coach so you can show we're open for business and to prime the booster/NIL machine.
 
I think firing head coaches early in the season is the new normal. No more scrambling over 2 or 3 weeks in December to find a new coach if you have already decided to move in a different direction.

The exact timing of the Frost firing seems a little odd due to the money savings, but the buyout does call for a financial offset if Frost gets a new job. So, the buyout could be substantially less than what is currently being stated. By firing Frost now, the odds go up that he will get a head coaching job next year.
 
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As someone posted above, Nebby has more money than Jesus.

Reportedly the big donors pushed Frost's firing and the school went for it because they hated the optics of playing Oklahoma on national tv and having the Frost death watch be the main story.

Instead, they got to watch OU curbstomp them without Frost.

And pls don't reply this doesn't make much sense. It's Nebby. Delusion is a foundational piece of their football program by now.
 
LesMis89 said:
As someone posted above, Nebby has more money than Jesus.

Reportedly the big donors pushed Frost's firing and the school went for it because they hated the optics of playing Oklahoma on national tv and having the Frost death watch be the main story.

Instead, they got to watch OU curbstomp them without Frost.

And pls don't reply this doesn't make much sense. It's Nebby. Delusion is a foundational piece of their football program by now.
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You’re exactly right. It’s just small time CT thinkers who see the world through an aperture the size of straw.

You can’t set foot in a place in Nebraska without seeing merchandise everywhere festooned with Nebraska logos.

They make money without lifting a finger.

And Trev isn’t firing anyone without buy in from all the stakeholders. As if he acted alone! LOL
 
They fired Frost when they did partially to give him the extra money because he was a favored son who led them to a natty. Also, it shows other prospective coaches that they aren't cheap... It was more than just a dollars and cents decision. Which is smart because it will be difficult for them to get a top tier coach nowadays.
 
LesMis89 said:
As someone posted above, Nebby has more money than Jesus.

Reportedly the big donors pushed Frost's firing and the school went for it because they hated the optics of playing Oklahoma on national tv and having the Frost death watch be the main story.

Instead, they got to watch OU curbstomp them without Frost.

And pls don't reply this doesn't make much sense. It's Nebby. Delusion is a foundational piece of their football program by now.
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Makes complete sense. They can blame the demolishing by OK on the "interim" staff and the Frost debacle. It basically puts all the blame on Frost and takes any blame from Nebraska on why OK has been so much better than them for the better part of what? 3 decades now?
 
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Keep an eye on Colorado. They’re in a tough place w buyout for Dorrell but the natives are super restless and his three year record is brutal
 
ShakyTheMohel said:
What a weird game against Missouri...does Harsin keep his job? Can you fire him after a win?
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Former Boise St. coaches moving up the food chain have a fairly brutal track record. Petersen at Washington is the only one I can think of who was reasonably successful, and even that was a bit up and down and ended totally abruptly.
 
Skiblets said:
Keep an eye on Colorado. They’re in a tough place w buyout for Dorrell but the natives are super restless and his three year record is brutal
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They have played a brutal schedule for a team that was projected to finish bottom half of the PAC 12. Minnesota, Air Force and TCU is not the right non-conference slate for a weak P5 team.
 
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CTFAN4LIFE said:
They fired Frost when they did partially to give him the extra money because he was a favored son who led them to a natty. Also, it shows other prospective coaches that they aren't cheap... It was more than just a dollars and cents decision. Which is smart because it will be difficult for them to get a top tier coach nowadays.
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This explanation only makes the firing worse. Nebraska is a public school so that is effectively taxpayer money. Paying Frost that much money as a solid for a long relationship is unacceptable.

It is possible that Nebraska would have won its next three games if Frost had not gotten canned when he did. Indiana and Rutgers suck, and the Syracuse game appears to have broken Purdue. The Administration paying $7.5 million to avoid the chance that Frost goes on a 3 game winning streak is a possibility, although honestly, a 7-5 or 6-6 season that would have resulted in Frost getting fired at the end anyway is a lot better than what could happen under an interim coach.

That $7.5 million could just be the beginning of what it will cost Nebraska if the wheels really come off. If Nebraska goes 2-10 or 1-11, it will cost a fortune to get a top coach to come to Lincoln, and a lot of coaches won’t take the job.

Taking over a mediocre program is one thing, stepping into a dumpster fire that could get gutted by the transfer portal is quite another.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
This explanation only makes the firing worse. Nebraska is a public school so that is effectively taxpayer money. Paying Frost that much money as a solid for a long relationship is unacceptable.

It is possible that Nebraska would have won its next three games if Frost had not gotten canned when he did. Indiana and Rutgers suck, and the Syracuse game appears to have broken Purdue. The Administration paying $7.5 million to avoid the chance that Frost goes on a 3 game winning streak is a possibility, although honestly, a 7-5 or 6-6 season that would have resulted in Frost getting fired at the end anyway is a lot better than what could happen under an interim coach.

That $7.5 million could just be the beginning of what it will cost Nebraska if the wheels really come off. If Nebraska goes 2-10 or 1-11, it will cost a fortune to get a top coach to come to Lincoln, and a lot of coaches won’t take the job.

Taking over a mediocre program is one thing, stepping into a dumpster fire that could get gutted by the transfer portal is quite another.
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I hear what you're saying but there is a vein of desperation in Nebraska because gone are the days when they can roll out of bed and recruit 4 and 5 star players. They have B1G money, so clearly they're not worried about dollars and cents and they fill their stadium so preserving that and booster money makes overall fiscal sense. They are in a different set of circumstances than almost any other program in America.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
This explanation only makes the firing worse. Nebraska is a public school so that is effectively taxpayer money. Paying Frost that much money as a solid for a long relationship is unacceptable.

It is possible that Nebraska would have won its next three games if Frost had not gotten canned when he did. Indiana and Rutgers suck, and the Syracuse game appears to have broken Purdue. The Administration paying $7.5 million to avoid the chance that Frost goes on a 3 game winning streak is a possibility, although honestly, a 7-5 or 6-6 season that would have resulted in Frost getting fired at the end anyway is a lot better than what could happen under an interim coach.

That $7.5 million could just be the beginning of what it will cost Nebraska if the wheels really come off. If Nebraska goes 2-10 or 1-11, it will cost a fortune to get a top coach to come to Lincoln, and a lot of coaches won’t take the job.

Taking over a mediocre program is one thing, stepping into a dumpster fire that could get gutted by the transfer portal is quite another.
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Nebraska's athletic department is run separately from the university (they have their own financials) and the university does not contribute to athletics. The way they run the department is kind of unique in college sports which is why they could dump Frost the way they did without bearing the wrath of the state politicians. Scholarships are covered by the athletic department, not the university. And, the athletic department pays the university for some administrative support.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
This explanation only makes the firing worse. Nebraska is a public school so that is effectively taxpayer money. Paying Frost that much money as a solid for a long relationship is unacceptable.

It is possible that Nebraska would have won its next three games if Frost had not gotten canned when he did. Indiana and Rutgers suck, and the Syracuse game appears to have broken Purdue. The Administration paying $7.5 million to avoid the chance that Frost goes on a 3 game winning streak is a possibility, although honestly, a 7-5 or 6-6 season that would have resulted in Frost getting fired at the end anyway is a lot better than what could happen under an interim coach.

That $7.5 million could just be the beginning of what it will cost Nebraska if the wheels really come off. If Nebraska goes 2-10 or 1-11, it will cost a fortune to get a top coach to come to Lincoln, and a lot of coaches won’t take the job.

Taking over a mediocre program is one thing, stepping into a dumpster fire that could get gutted by the transfer portal is quite another.
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Keep digging that hole.
 
CTFAN4LIFE said:
I hear what you're saying but there is a vein of desperation in Nebraska because gone are the days when they can roll out of bed and recruit 4 and 5 star players. They have B1G money, so clearly they're not worried about dollars and cents and they fill their stadium so preserving that and booster money makes overall fiscal sense. They are in a different set of circumstances than almost any other program in America.
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Nebraska fans don’t think they should be winning NCs each season. But they do think they should be competitive for B1G championships.

Desperation yes. Delusion, I don’t think so.
 
ZooCougar said:
Nebraska fans don’t think they should be winning NCs each season. But they do think they should be competitive for B1G championships.

Desperation yes. Delusion, I don’t think so.
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Agreed - they know their relative place in the current world order. With almost 400 consecutive home sellouts they are as rabid as almost any fanbase.
 
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Double tap…




Backdoor

-> Four games into his fourth season, coach Geoff Collins’ inability to lift Georgia Tech into a competitive realm has cost him not only what he often referred to as his dream job, but also likely the job of the man who hired him, athletic director Todd Stansbury. After the Yellow Jackets failed to show progress in their first four games this season, Collins is out of his job, and it’s likely that Stansburywill be, too, according to a person familiar with the situation.

A special meeting of the Georgia Tech Athletic Association board was called for Monday afternoon, a school spokesman told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution on Sunday.
Both decisions could be formalized then. Who will step in for Collins as interim head coach and who could be an interim AD is uncertain. Stansbury’s second in command is deputy AD Mark Rountree.

Offensive coordinator Chip Long and offensive-line coach Brent Key would seem logical possibilities to lead the Jackets over the final eight games of the regular season. Tech’s next game comes at 8 p.m. Saturday at Pitt. <-
 
I thought Collins would do well at GT. He will probably now be paid by GT to be an assistant at Alabama while he waits for his next job.
 
Collins was DC at Florida and Mississippi State. Would we consider bringing him in as a defensive consultant for a stint this season?
 
Collins was an absolute disaster at Tech. His agent is real hero though, having that high a buyout that late into his tenure.
 
CTFAN4LIFE said:
Collins was DC at Florida and Mississippi State. Would we consider bringing him in as a defensive consultant for a stint this season?
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I hope we kick the tires at least. This guy is legit as a DC at the very least
 
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