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Once the handcuffs were taken off Cashman has shown what he's all about. Me likey this trade a lot.
 
I don't follow the minor leagues like some here do, but all three prospects that the Yankees are giving up are guys that I've heard of. But you have to give up something to get something and none of those prospects have done anything at the major league level, while Gray has. You never know how these trades will pan out until a few years after, but I've no complaints on this one.
 
Very smart trade by Cashman.

I don't see Frazier going back to Triple A. Not with the Dan Hurley in play and Hicks getting into game shape. Ellsbury is going have to like sitting the pines.
 
Scoe said:
I thought Yankees would have had to give up Florial who should be ready by the time Ellsbury contract is up, all things considered its a steal you keep your top prospects in Florial, Torres, Adams, and Sheffield.
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...and Bird.
 
Amazing how much the Yankee fan overrates Frazier. Dude is batting .250 now and a couple HRs and RBI. You'd think he's Mike Trout or something.

Judge has been a total disaster the last 3-4 weeks. Huge book on him now, very easy to get out.

huskeynut said:
Very smart trade by Cashman

I don't see Frazier going back to Triple A. Not with the Dan Hurley in play and Hicks getting into game shape. Ellsbury is going have to like sitting the pines.
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JSM1970 said:
Amazing how much the Yankee fan overrates Frazier. Dude is batting .250 now and a couple HRs and RBI. You'd think he's Mike Trout or something.

Judge has been a total disaster the last 3-4 weeks. Huge book on him now, very easy to get out.
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I know you're just a troll but I'll bite. He's 99 ABs into his MLB career and has shown pretty impressive power. Combine that with the on base skills he's shown in the minors and you've got a pretty good corner OF. And yes Judge is regressing to the mean after an unsustainable start but even if he's in the .240-.250 range, he's a damn valuable commodity with that power and on base ability.
 
JSM1970 said:
Amazing how much the Yankee fan overrates Frazier. Dude is batting .250 now and a couple HRs and RBI. You'd think he's Mike Trout or something.

Judge has been a total disaster the last 3-4 weeks. Huge book on him now, very easy to get out.
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I believe part of Judge's problem is Girardi. You do not place your power hitter batting #2 in the order. I understand the injuries, but Girardi has been making some questionable moves as manager. Judge should be batting in the 4 or 5 hole. Girardi and his notebooks, sabermetrics, are a big part of the problem.

Nobody said Frazier was Mike Trout. Frazier is a 22 year old rookie who can be a very good outfielder for several years. Many of us said Severino was going to be fine when he struggled. And we were right!
 
huskeynut said:
I believe part of Judge's problem is Girardi. You do not place your power hitter batting #2 in the order. I understand the injuries, but Girardi has been making some questionable moves as manager. Judge should be batting in the 4 or 5 hole. Girardi and his notebooks, sabermetrics, are a big part of the problem.
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I'm sorry but just no. This line of thinking is so antiquated (see below). You want your best hitters getting the most amount of at-bats with runners on base. The traditionalist managers that subscribe to those antiquated ideas about placing fast guys in the top two spots, your best all-around hitter third, and your slugger fourth lead to less runs. I also really struggle to see how looking at the game mathematically and not by the unwritten rules is leading to him regressing to the mean.

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WhereistheDove? said:
I know you're just a troll but I'll bite. He's 99 ABs into his MLB career and has shown pretty impressive power. Combine that with the on base skills he's shown in the minors and you've got a pretty good corner OF. And yes Judge is regressing to the mean after an unsustainable start but even if he's in the .240-.250 range, he's a damn valuable commodity with that power and on base ability.
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You need to just understand who you're replying too, not a lot there normally.
 
JSM1970 said:
Amazing how much the Yankee fan overrates Frazier. Dude is batting .250 now and a couple HRs and RBI. You'd think he's Mike Trout or something.

Judge has been a total disaster the last 3-4 weeks. Huge book on him now, very easy to get out.
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Swing and a miss!!
 
Judge is hitting .164 since the Home Run Derby. I predicted as much.
 
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Waquoit said:
Judge is hitting .164 since the Home Run Derby. I predicted as much.
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Anyone who looked at his peripherals had to know this was coming. Now this stretch definitely includes some bad luck but it's all evening out.
 
Frazier has been awful too. Another 0-5 with 2 Ks last night. He was supposedly untouchable at trade deadline.

They have a full book on Judge now. So much for the Triple Crown and MVP talk, he's an easy out.

Waquoit said:
Judge is hitting .164 since the Home Run Derby. I predicted as much.
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JSM1970 said:
Frazier has been awful too. Another 0-5 with 2 Ks last night. He was supposedly untouchable at trade deadline.

They have a full book on Judge now. So much for the Triple Crown and MVP talk, he's an easy out.
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They're kids time for adjustments. He is untouchable in a trade if you knew anything about baseball you'd see his hand speed and know how good he will be. But you're a dope as are others.

Not saying either will be a star but both are very good baseball players with solid futures. By the way both play a good outfield and Judge may have the best arm in the AL. I know dummies don't think about defense but Judge is really good out there.

Did Waq predict the "best player in baseball" would be shaving 50 points off of last years average, yeah Mookie you got it. ......did you predict as much? LOL
 
Judge is older than Betts

Betts is much better than Judge, no way I would trade him for Judge hypothetically

Judge has become an easy out again, like in 2016

I wonder how excited people will be to go to that stupid Judge's Chamber when he's basically hitting .150 and strikes out every other AB


mauconnfan said:
They're kids time for adjustments. He is untouchable in a trade if you knew anything about baseball you'd see his hand speed and know how good he will be. But you're a dope as are others.

Not saying either will be a star but both are very good baseball players with solid futures. By the way both play a good outfield and Judge may have the best arm in the AL. I know dummies don't think about defense but Judge is really good out there.

Did Waq predict the "best player in baseball" would be shaving 50 points off of last years average, yeah Mookie you got it. .did you predict as much? LOL
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JSM1970 said:
Judge is older than Betts

Betts is much better than Judge, no way I would trade him for Judge hypothetically

Judge has become an easy out again, like in 2016

I wonder how excited people will be to go to that stupid Judge's Chamber when he's basically hitting .150 and strikes out every other AB
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Yeah no rookies have ever slumped this would be a first. Listen not saying he's ever going to be that player again but we saw it so he can be that guy. Easy to be you and Waq saying "told ya so" 20 games into a slump lol

And Mookie? Nope don't know that yet either much easier out than last year.
 
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So much hype for Judge, Hicks and Frazier.

Good luck

Judge looks terrible lately, very easy out.

Frazier is a total joke for being #5 pick. Obviously the Indians didn't view him as untouchable.


mauconnfan said:
Yeah no rookies have ever slumped this would be a first. Listen not saying he's ever going to be that player again but we saw it so he can be that guy. Easy to be you and Waq saying "told ya so" 20 games into a slump lol

And Mookie? Nope don't know that yet either much easier out than last year.
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JSM1970 said:
So much hype for Judge, Hicks and Frazier.

Good luck

Judge looks terrible lately, very easy out.

Frazier is a total joke for being #5 pick. Obviously the Indians didn't view him as untouchable.
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Once again someone who knows very little about the game, take you with a smallest grain of salt. Just to prove it where was the hype with Hicks? He was a 200 hitter when he was traded to the Yanks and has done nothing but improve. Now he's hurt after a great first half, probably all star type until the injury - where does he fit in with 2 rookies? Again zero brought to the table here.
 
Judge already 0-2 2Ks. Shocker. He's the most overrated player in any sport.

mauconnfan said:
Once again someone who knows very little about the game, take you with a smallest grain of salt. Just to prove it where was the hype with Hicks? He was a 200 hitter when he was traded to the Yanks and has done nothing but improve. Now he's hurt after a great first half, probably all star type until the injury - where does he fit in with 2 rookies? Again zero brought to the table here.
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JSM1970 said:
Judge already 0-2 2Ks. Shocker. He's the most overrated player in any sport.
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LOL he's struggling but you don't struggle you've already reached the pinnacle of stupidity. He is still an unknown you have earned HOF honors.
 
He's not struggling, he's not good. Once they built a full book on him he's virtually an automatic out.


mauconnfan said:
LOL he's struggling but you don't struggle you've already reached the pinnacle of stupidity. He is still an unknown you have earned HOF honors.
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JSM1970 said:
He's not struggling, he's not good. Once they built a full book on him he's virtually an automatic out.
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Yeah they didn't have a "book" on him from the minor leagues right with 2000 scouts out there? Where were you predicting this in the first half then loud mouth? Joke
 
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JSM1970 said:
Judge already 0-2 2Ks. Shocker. He's the most overrated player in any sport.
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Thanks for the update van you hit the refresh and let me know what happened with these guys their last 2 ABs? Oh never mind found it Frazier has a double and a walk with a run scored while Judge has A walk and a 3 run homer with 2 runs scored. Oh yeah and he became only the 2nd rookie to hit 35 HRs and walk at least 80 times. Al Rosen did it in the 50s.......40 games left. But he's a stiff right?
 
mauconnfan said:
Yeah they didn't have a "book" on him from the minor leagues right with 2000 scouts out there? Where were you predicting this in the first half then loud mouth? Joke
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It's pretty normal for that to happen. Teams have minor league scouts out there for potential targets and acquisitions but I don't think it's too common for them to be specifically looking for weaknesses that they can exploit in the player's approach if and when they get to the majors.

Good example, Dansby Swanson was one of the top prospects in baseball, came up last year and put up good numbers (with some batted ball luck), and this year teams figured out they could just feed him a steady stream of sliders and he couldn't hit them.
 
Judge still had 3ks in 4ABs yesterday

He's an easy out unless you miss a spot with him

Bogaerts is a below average defensive player, hits for no power and average keeps dropping as he's been terrible the last 2+ months


WhereistheDove? said:
It's pretty normal for that to happen. Teams have minor league scouts out there for potential targets and acquisitions but I don't think it's too common for them to be specifically looking for weaknesses that they can exploit in the player's approach if and when they get to the majors.

Good example, Dansby Swanson was one of the top prospects in baseball, came up last year and put up good numbers (with some batted ball luck), and this year teams figured out they could just feed him a steady stream of sliders and he couldn't hit them.
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JSM1970 said:
Judge still had 3ks in 4ABs yesterday

He's an easy out unless you miss a spot with him

Bogaerts is a below average defensive player, hits for no power and average keeps dropping as he's been terrible the last 2+ months
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I think he'll likely make adjustments, though he'll always be a big strikeout guy. Still, even if he settles in to K-ing at a 35% clip, when you're walking 15-20% of the time and punishing mistakes like he does, you're going to be a valuable player (not to mention that he's a pretty good defender). The .426 BABIP in the first half wasn't sustainable but neither is the .237 in the second half. He's somewhere in the middle of these two halves.
 
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