1st team AA

[Vowelguy]

If Alexis Jones does not make first team then something is wrong. She is the best PG in the nation, IMO, and I don't even think anyone else is close. ND is not playing well enough as a team for me to put Allen on the first team.

Kim needs to start some PR as Alexis didn't even make the 28 player Ann Meyers/wbca mid season watch list

 

[EricSD]

The women's game's voters don't have the cajones to leave Wilson or Coates off the AP 1st team.

both players a re great but have not performed at the consistent level all season to be on the first team (5 members).

KLS and Collier absolutely have and BOTH of them should be on the 1st team. Remember, they have both excelled against the best competition.

IMO, Gabby deserves to make a 10 member 1st team and just to be fair and not greedy, I'd consent to put Nurse on 2nd team even though she has been a Great Player and Leader this year.

Couldn't agree more. Just because Wilson had one game where she scored 26 points does not make up for the inconsistent rest of the season. She may well average 20 PPG the rest of the year and earn 1st team AA honors, but as of today, she's not close to a 1st team player.

 

[easttexastrash]

Kim needs to start some PR as Alexis didn't even make the 28 player Ann Meyers/wbca mid season watch list

Ann Meyers needs to watch a few more games since she is apparently ignorant to the talent level that Jones possesses. There is not one guard in America that I would take over Jones. Anyone who doesn't list Jones as one of the top 28 players loses credibility with me.

 

[easttexastrash]

I'm sorry, but the anti-Wilson chatter seems like sour grapes to me. That woman can flat out play the game and would get my vote for POY. I would bet that if a WNBA could pick any college player, regardless of class, that Wilson would be the first chosen.

 

[SCGamecock]

Slow down. You lost me at unicorn. Porzingis can do everything including shoot 3s, dribble drive and play great defense. A true rareity at 7'3"

I actually think some folks on this board under rate Coates, but you are building her to be a bit more than she is in terms of overall game. You make it sound like not having an outside shot is a plus.... In terms of being a true big I would take the center from K-State, her overall game is better (she does not have outside shot either). That said she can dominate the boards in games and score on putbacks. I am weary about February's match up, but unless there is foul trouble, our team's offense is just too efficient when compared to the irratic and inconsistent offensive play I have seen when watching SC.

Oh, you don't have to tell me about her.. I'm very familiar with K-State's Breanna Lewis... she owned us for 21 points last year in the NCAA tournament.

 

[SCGamecock]

I'm sorry, but the anti-Wilson chatter seems like sour grapes to me. That woman can flat out play the game and would get my vote for POY. I would be that if a WNBA could pick any college player, regardless of class, that Wilson would be the first chosen.

*whistles from the corner*....

 

[easttexastrash]

Oh, you don't have to tell me about her.. I'm very familiar with K-State's Breanna Lewis... she owned us for 21 points last year in the NCAA tournament.

In a head-to-head matchup with Kalani Brown, Lewis had 14 points, 7 rebounds and 1 block in 30 minutes. In 20 minutes, Brown had 22 points. 12 rebounds and 4 blocks. I'll take Brown over Lewis. Maybe Lewis will have a better game tomorrow night.

 

[SCspur]

I'm sorry, but the anti-Wilson chatter seems like sour grapes to me. That woman can flat out play the game and would get my vote for POY. I would bet that if a WNBA could pick any college player, regardless of class, that Wilson would be the first chosen.

More like dried bitter raisins LOL the woman scored 31, 26, and 26 not to mention her shot blocking presence but doesn't deserve 1st team AA? Man I swear these posts make me laugh!

 

[Plebe]

I'm sorry, but the anti-Wilson chatter seems like sour grapes to me. That woman can flat out play the game and would get my vote for POY. I would bet that if a WNBA could pick any college player, regardless of class, that Wilson would be the first chosen.

Wow, you're taking Wilson over Plum for NPOY? Throw it down.

 

[Los24]

Agree. I can't see Wilson or Coates as first team. They are up there because of their team. If they are that good why did they just squeak by MsSt last night?

Again, you can say same about us and Florida St. Let's be fair, they were playing #4 ranked team. Not saying they are first team AA either. I can see Wilson from talent perspective, not sure about her full body of work this year though but she has a well rounded game.

 

[Vowelguy]

Ann Meyers needs to watch a few more games since she is apparently ignorant to the talent level that Jones possesses. There is not one guard in America that I would take over Jones. Anyone who doesn't list Jones as one of the top 28 players loses credibility with me.

Sorry I should've clarified - it's the Ann Meyers Award. It's not her personal list.

 

[triaddukefan]

Now that the first team AA is settled........ who's on the second team

 

[j66kicker]

Now that the first team AA is settled... who's on the second team

We have no clue - UConn doesn't have enough players to make up 2 teams

 

[MilfordHusky]

Here are some stats for consideration. Obviously, the strength of schedule, team's success, eye test, and other factors go into AA selections, but some of the numbers are surprising (high or low).

Player/PPG/FG%/RPG/Blocks/Team Record

Collier 19.2/.665/8.1/32/19-0

Coates 14.4/.681/10.9/28/17-1

Wilson 16.8/.583/7.4/34/17-1

Nina Davis 12.1/.585/4.6/6/19-1

Turner 14.7/.589/7.4/48/18-3

Anigwe 22.3/.620/10.2/36/15-5

Billings 18.2/.508/11.0/34/15-4

Osahor 15.5/.485/14.7/9/19-2

Napheesa is second in the group in scoring, behind only Anigwe. She is second in shooting percentage behind Coates. Her rebounding numbers are better than those of Wilson and Turner. She has more blocks than Coates and is close to Wilson, Billings, and Anigwe.

The question on Coates may be her scoring. Is 14.4 high enough?

Wilson's numbers are good, but not great.

Nina Davis's scoring and rebounds are too low. Brown and Mompremier are getting the rebounds now.

Turner's scoring and rebounds are a little low for AA status. Her blocks are very good.

Anigwe's stats are impressive--over 20 and 10.

Billings's shooting percentage is a little low for a post.

Osahor is a different type of player. She is not athletic enough to get blocks, and her shooting percentage is low because she shoots from the arc a lot, but she grabs rebounds like Courtney Paris.

My reading of these is that Napheesa makes a 10-player AA team.

 

[SCGamecock]

Agree. I can't see Wilson or Coates as first team. They are up there because of their team. If they are that good why did they just squeak by MsSt last night?

As members of The Boneyard, have we considered the possibility that Mississippi State might actually be pretty dang good this year? Or are we permanently placing them in the bad team category because they lost by infinity to a superhuman UConn team LAST YEAR?

 

[ballhawk]

I would add Sydney Wiese to the WBCA AA list. She is the point guard and leader of a good OSU team. In December she broke the PAC12 record for 3 pointers.

 

[easttexastrash]

Here are some stats for consideration. Obviously, the strength of schedule, team's success, eye test, and other factors go into AA selections, but some of the numbers are surprising (high or low).

Player/PPG/FG%/RPG/Blocks/Team Record

Collier 19.2/.665/8.1/32/19-0

Coates 14.4/.681/10.9/28/17-1

Wilson 16.8/.583/7.4/34/17-1

Nina Davis 12.1/.585/4.6/6/19-1

Turner 14.7/.589/7.4/48/18-3

Anigwe 22.3/.620/10.2/36/15-5

Billings 18.2/.508/11.0/34/15-4

Osahor 15.5/.485/14.7/9/19-2

Napheesa is second in the group in scoring, behind only Anigwe. She is second in shooting percentage behind Coates. Her rebounding numbers are better than those of Wilson and Turner. She has more blocks than Coates and is close to Wilson, Billings, and Anigwe.

The question on Coates may be her scoring. Is 14.4 high enough?

Wilson's numbers are good, but not great.

Nina Davis's scoring and rebounds are too low. Brown and Mompremier are getting the rebounds now.

Turner's scoring and rebounds are a little low for AA status. Her blocks are very good.

Anigwe's stats are impressive--over 20 and 10.

Billings's shooting percentage is a little low for a post.

Osahor is a different type of player. She is not athletic enough to get blocks, and her shooting percentage is low because she shoots from the arc a lot, but she grabs rebounds like Courtney Paris.

My reading of these is that Napheesa makes a 10-player AA team.

Nina Davis is in the same boat that many UCONN players have been over the years. She has sacrificed personal stats for the success of the team. I agree that her numbers may be too low for voters to put her on the first team but she is playing some great team ball right now. She is getting her 12 points and 4.6 rebounds a game in only 20 minutes per game.

The depth for Baylor is hurting everyone's stats. Kalani Brown is shooting 69% from the floor, is averaging 14 points and 8 rebounds a game and has 42 blocks on the year, but only averages 19 minutes a game. If she were getting close to 30 minutes a game she would be in the AA discussion.

 

[easttexastrash]

Here are some stats for consideration. Obviously, the strength of schedule, team's success, eye test, and other factors go into AA selections, but some of the numbers are surprising (high or low).

Player/PPG/FG%/RPG/Blocks/Team Record

Collier 19.2/.665/8.1/32/19-0

Coates 14.4/.681/10.9/28/17-1

Wilson 16.8/.583/7.4/34/17-1

Nina Davis 12.1/.585/4.6/6/19-1

Turner 14.7/.589/7.4/48/18-3

Anigwe 22.3/.620/10.2/36/15-5

Billings 18.2/.508/11.0/34/15-4

Osahor 15.5/.485/14.7/9/19-2

Napheesa is second in the group in scoring, behind only Anigwe. She is second in shooting percentage behind Coates. Her rebounding numbers are better than those of Wilson and Turner. She has more blocks than Coates and is close to Wilson, Billings, and Anigwe.

The question on Coates may be her scoring. Is 14.4 high enough?

Wilson's numbers are good, but not great.

Nina Davis's scoring and rebounds are too low. Brown and Mompremier are getting the rebounds now.

Turner's scoring and rebounds are a little low for AA status. Her blocks are very good.

Anigwe's stats are impressive--over 20 and 10.

Billings's shooting percentage is a little low for a post.

Osahor is a different type of player. She is not athletic enough to get blocks, and her shooting percentage is low because she shoots from the arc a lot, but she grabs rebounds like Courtney Paris.

My reading of these is that Napheesa makes a 10-player AA team.

Would be interesting to see minutes per game. I bet that almost all of these players are playing near 30 minutes per game.

 

[TitleTown]

The RSHERMVIKES AA team is: (players must play both sides of the ball, not just offense!)
KL Samuelson F/G UCONN
Npheesa Collier F UCONN
Gabby Willams F/G UCONN
Kelsey Plum G UWashington
Kia Nurse G UCONN
A'ja Wilson F SoCar
Alaina Coates C SoCar
Alexis Jones G Baylor
Brionna Jones C MD
Leticia Romero G FSU

BEST OVERALL ATHLETES IN WCBB: Take your breath away athletic ability
Gabby Williams SF/G UCONN
Nina Davis SF Baylor
Shakayla Thomas SF FSU
Anriel Howard SF TX A&M
Breanna Lewis C KSU

No Mitchell, Osahor, Peterson, or Anigwe?

 

[TitleTown]

Nina Davis is in the same boat that many UCONN players have been over the years. She has sacrificed personal stats for the success of the team. I agree that her numbers may be too low for voters to put her on the first team but she is playing some great team ball right now. She is getting her 12 points and 4.6 rebounds a game in only 20 minutes per game.

The depth for Baylor is hurting everyone's stats. Kalani Brown is shooting 69% from the floor, is averaging 14 points and 8 rebounds a game and has 42 blocks on the year, but only averages 19 minutes a game. If she were getting close to 30 minutes a game she would be in the AA discussion.

Kalani Brown would struggle to play 30mins a night and I am pretty sure her efficiency would drop when she was tired.

 

[TitleTown]

As members of The Boneyard, have we considered the possibility that Mississippi State might actually be pretty dang good this year? Or are we permanently placing them in the bad team category because they lost by infinity to a superhuman UConn team LAST YEAR?

Miss St is not a very good basketball team. The only 2 quality wins they have are against Texas and Tenn. They also have been in very close games with Iowa St., USC, and Arkansas.

 

[meyers7]

We are definitely above trading "petty" low blows. I really was not trying to be petty just a smart ass. My apologies.

Um, that's my job.

 

[meyers7]

Pretty sure it's strictly WBCA AA. I can't find much to support that however, except this...

No, I believe they'll use AP, WBCA or USWBA. All 3 are listed in the Media Guide. Although the WBCA and USWBA picks are not different all that often. Both do a 10 player 1st team.

 

[DefenseBB]

Miss St is not a very good basketball team. The only 2 quality wins they have are against Texas and Tenn. They also have been in very close games with Iowa St., USC, and Arkansas.

Huh? They are a very good basketball team. They may not be an elite top 4 team but they are top 8 and can match up with virtually anyone other than UConn or Baylor. I would say the 3-12 teams are fairly interchangeable depending on the night and are very good basketball teams with varying dominant skills and some deficiencies. Try to be a bit measured when making statements about a 20-1 team who is dominating their conference with road wins in tough places. No one is UConn....

 

[meyers7]

Sorry I should've clarified - it's the Ann Meyers Award. It's not her personal list.

Well if you're clarifying, it's the Ann Meyers Drysdale Award. (USBWA NPOY Award)

 

[Bigpetunia]

You can't separate Katie Lou, Napheesa and Gabby. That is the problem. How do you not include a 5'11" center, who guards centers and guards equally as well, and leads the number one team in rebounds, assists and steals? Gabby has to be a first team AA. Katie Lou, my favorite player, and Napheesa as well, but the committee will never select three Huskies. That's just the truth. Add Kelsey Plum and a healthy Aja Wilson, and there are your five starters.

I think you have this just about right, but, alas, there are flaws in your argument, at least one of which you correctly point out. You have, understandably, and intelligently, selected the five best players in the game. As we know, however, that generally ain't how the process works. First off, as you suggest, there cannot be three Huskies, however deserving. Second, offensive stats always disproportionately sway the voters, who will thereby fail to justly reward the true number one overall player in the game, Gabby W., with even a first team AA nod...too bad. Thirdly, although some make the point that consensus preseason selections may not be named if their stats don't hold up, I find that contention, however logical, to often be untrue. Sports writers and commentators resist change with a mighty stubbornness, and the facts on the ground tend not to generally upset the applecart of their prior expectations...in other words, the "fix" tends to be in.

I think that the big girl from MD (Jones?) deserves a close look. I suspect that the committee will succumb to voting for Coates, who is, in fact, pretty good, unless she is playing UConn, against which her game is routinely "undressed" (thanks, Morgan) and her body language goes unmistakably South, which should never happen to a first team AA.

Anyway, while I like your analysis, I'm pretty certain that some players on our favorite team will be quite unfairly locked out...that's a shame...so we'll just have to content ourselves with #12!

 

[easttexastrash]

Kalani Brown would struggle to play 30mins a night and I am pretty sure her efficiency would drop when she was tired.

I disagree. Kalani has transformed her body, much the way Dolson did. How many minutes a game did Dolson average her last season? I am guessing 30+.

 

[CocoHusky]

I disagree. Kalani has transformed her body, much the way Dolson did. How many minutes a game did Dolson average her last season? I am guessing 30+.

32.3 Minutes per game.

 

[ricky]

I'm not sure I see Coates AND Wilson. If they were undefeated and routing everyone, then maybe. I think both may be top-10, but not top-5.

I was undecided between Pheesa and Lou, but Lou's scoring and all-around game have moved her to near the top of the list.

Collier is so smooth and slick at getting all the important things accomplished that I'm shocked to see all her gaudy numbers. Sometimes she seems like Flash Gordon.

 

[easttexastrash]

Kalani Brown would struggle to play 30mins a night and I am pretty sure her efficiency would drop when she was tired.

Against UCLA Brown played 29 minutes, scored 25 points (12-15 FG, 8-11 FT) grabbed 19 rebounds, had 5 blocks and 6 assists. She held up pretty well over those 29 minutes. If she were getting that many minutes on a consistent basis she would be in the AA discussion.