OT: WWC (Soccer) Thread

[warbler1055]

I saw the replay several times. White fell and screamed, Sauerbrunn was behind and the whole thing was a blur. I thought there was no penalty but obviously I was wrong or needed new glasses and eyeballs. So the PK was the right call.
My other question is about the offside call on White which denied England the tying goal. Was she or was she not offside. Again, my Sony 75" TV picture was not helpful. I thought the goal was good until it wasn't. So according some rule posted here, the VAR and the referee were wrong to deny England the goal since White was in an offside position and not offside when she got the ball. Did I finally get it right or was I wrong again?

 

[meyers7]

I saw the replay several times. White fell and screamed, Sauerbrunn was behind and the whole thing was a blur. I thought there was no penalty but obviously I was wrong or needed new glasses and eyeballs. So the PK was the right call.
My other question is about the offside call on White which denied England the tying goal. Was she or was she not offside. Again, my Sony 75" TV picture was not helpful. I thought the goal was good until it wasn't. So according some rule posted here, the VAR and the referee were wrong to deny England the goal since White was in an offside position and not offside when she got the ball. Did I finally get it right or was I wrong again?

I think you're confusing 2 different plays.

Play 1 (the PK play) - White is in an offside position, but the ball goes to FB (Stokes) who crosses it to White (now Onside) and Sauerbrunn clips her back leg for the penalty

Play 2 (offside nullified goal) - White is offside (barely only verified by frame by frame dissection) when the ball it passed to her, she turns and slots it past Naeher into the goal. But VAR calls her offside.

 

[Jeff H]

I am a little fed up with the VAR, but both final calls were right and they did't take too long to make the decisions, so good on VAR this time.

 

[Bigboote]

Just a few observations unrelated to officiating:

To me, Naeher looks like a completely different player than she was in January, or even two months ago. I was a doubter, but she’s really come up big the last few games. Kudos to those who believed in her; y’all saw something I didn’t.

Having Press in for Rapinoe, the only negative is lack of continuity. They’re very different players, but I wouldn’t say Rapinoe is clearly better. (I do think having Press come in at the 60’ mark for Heath is a great platoon.). Press is a great offensive player, her speed and relentlessness are great. Rapinoe’s fire is contagious, and she’s steadier than Press.

Rose Lavelle seemed to be everywhere before her injury; hope it’s a minor tweak.

Horan is a beast in the midfield. I hope she can keep from getting another card in the next game. She obviously got under the skin of the English. Ertz is also a wonderful player, and great to have in the game when they go to the 5-3-2.

 

[stamfordhusky]

Horan is a beast in the midfield. I hope she can keep from getting another card in the next game.

We can live with one yellow card next game. Just hope she doesn't get two in that game.

 

[RockyMTblue2]

Some highlights from UK game:

 

[Bigboote]

We can live with one yellow card next game. Just hope she doesn't get two in that game.

Thanks for that. I’d thought that yellows in consecutive games would result in removal from the second game, had forgotten that it’s for the following game.

 

[Biff]

Just a thought here.

If we can't discuss Woman's World Cup Soccer with civil discourse and without insulting or denigrating other's opinions then maybe, just maybe we won't be able to discuss Women's World Cup Soccer on this forum.

As I said, just a thought.

 

[eebmg]

Netherlands finally scores in the 98' minute of the first extra period. I was hoping for Sweden since I would have liked the rematch. Netherlands finally win although I think overall Sweden had the better run of play.

 

[brownale]

Why not allow a few more subs per game. Players work their entire life for this chance and may never see the field.

 

[Plebe]

Why not allow a few more subs per game. Players work their entire life for this chance and may never see the field.

Soccer, unlike basketball, by its lineage is its substitution-averse. Just 35 years ago, only one substitution was allowed. In the 1950s, there were no subs. The rule has been gradually 'liberalized' to its current limit of 3, with a 4th allowed in extra time. (International friendly matches allow up to 6 per match.)

The number of substitutes usable in a competitive match has increased from zero—meaning teams were reduced if players' injuries could not allow them to play on—to one (plus another for an injured goalkeeper) in 1958; to two out of a possible five in 1988. With the later increases in substitutions allowed, the number of potential substitute players increased to seven.[14] The number of substitutes increased to two plus one (injured goalkeeper) in 1994,[15] to three in 1995;[16][17] and most recently to a fourth substitute in certain competitions in extra time.[18]​

Substitute (association football) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[j66kicker]

Sue on her way to France...

Injured Bird to attend WC final, cheer on Rapinoe

Sue Bird's rehabilitation on her left knee is continuing, but an upside is that she won't be missing any playing time to attend the Women's World Cup final in Lyon, France, where she'll be supporting girlfriend Megan Rapinoe and the USWNT.

www.espn.com

 

[Engineer90]

I hope the US team loses.

 

[Vowelguy]

I hope the US team loses.

Thank you for your interest in World Cup soccer.

 

[eebmg]

Sue on her way to France...

Injured Bird to attend WC final, cheer on Rapinoe

Sue Bird's rehabilitation on her left knee is continuing, but an upside is that she won't be missing any playing time to attend the Women's World Cup final in Lyon, France, where she'll be supporting girlfriend Megan Rapinoe and the USWNT.

www.espn.com

In the article is buried this sad little tidbit.

Bird's rehabilitation on her left knee is continuing, but the surgery she had in late May was a bit more extensive than initially expected and has put any return this season in question. She said it's similar to her situation in 2013, when she ended up missing the entire season following knee surgery.

 

[RockyMTblue2]

Having been one of those who thought some celebrating was excessive in the thrashing of Thailand I am bemused by the notion that Alex's sipping a cuppa , a gesture unseen except maybe on a jumbotron, is an inappropriate celebration. She's drinking their beloved tea, big deal. I thought it was a modestly clever little bit of muscle flexing.

 

[meyers7]

Just a thought here.

If we can't discuss Woman's World Cup Soccer with civil discourse and without insulting or denigrating other's opinions then maybe, just maybe we won't be able to discuss Women's World Cup Soccer on this forum.

As I said, just a thought.

I hope the US team loses.

Are you sure, Biff?

 

[Biff]

Are you sure, Biff?

Nothing about life is sure other than it will end.

 

[j66kicker]

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Having been one of those who thought some celebrating was excessive in the thrashing of Thailand I am bemused by the notion that Alex's sipping a cuppa , a gesture unseen except maybe on a jumbotron, is an inappropriate celebration. She's drinking their beloved tea, big deal. I thought it was a modestly clever little bit of muscle flexing.

In the snapshot without the motion this looks like the classic, "You're smoking dope" gesture.

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[JordyG]

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Having been one of those who thought some celebrating was excessive in the thrashing of Thailand I am bemused by the notion that Alex's sipping a cuppa , a gesture unseen except maybe on a jumbotron, is an inappropriate celebration. She's drinking their beloved tea, big deal. I thought it was a modestly clever little bit of muscle flexing.

Maybe she should have smoked it instead.

 

[Rixxx]

I'm sorry, I just have to say here that I really like Lavelle and her "dribbling".

 

[Vowelguy]

Nothing about life is sure other than it will end.

What?!?!

 

[j66kicker]

"I think I might have been upstaged," Rapinoe told reporters on Wednesday. "That was next level. That was pretty sharp by Alex."

Morgan's tea cup celebration 'next level' - Rapinoe

Megan Rapinoe said her U.S. teammate Alex Morgan took it to the "next level" with her tea cup celebration after scoring the winner against England.

www.espn.com

 

[meyers7]

Sweden takes down the Brits, 2-1 for the 3rd place trophy.

 

[j66kicker]

Rapinoe rant on (growing) disparity between USWNT/USMNT pay...

- FIFA doubles women's WC prize $$ in 2023 from $30 to $60 million.

- FIFA increases men's WC payout for 2022 from $400 to $440 million.

- So the disparity increases from -$370 to -$380 million.

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[Plebe]

FIFA scheduling two major men's finals (Copa América, Gold Cup) on the exact same day as the WWC final is a true head-scratcher. I just don't get that at all.

 

[BigBird]

Rapinoe rant on (growing) disparity between USWNT/USMNT pay...
- FIFA doubles women's WC prize $$ in 2023 from $30 to $60 million.
- FIFA increases men's WC payout for 2022 from $400 to $440 million.
- So the disparity increases from -$370 to -$380 million.

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Come on now. The complaint is that the men got boosts that were ten times larger. Thus the gap grows, not shrinks. The objections and issues being advocated by the USWNT are legit, as are the same issues being addressed by the players of the WNBA.

 

[eebmg]

Lets go USA. Unlike some of the earlier KO games where we came in woth lest rest than our opponent, we have the extra day and Netherlands had the OT periods to sap some of their energy. The 2 best crowd bases will make this a real spectacle but the stars are aligned for a good decisive win. Hope my favorite player Rose Lavelle can play.

 

[meyers7]

Rapinoe rant on (growing) disparity between USWNT/USMNT pay...

- FIFA doubles women's WC prize $$ in 2023 from $30 to $60 million.

- FIFA increases men's WC payout for 2022 from $400 to $440 million.

- So the disparity increases from -$370 to -$380 million.

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Ah but if you frame it like the women do, the Women's game got a 100% increase while the Men's game only got a 10% increase......unfair!

 

[meyers7]

SMH

Naeher
O'Hara-Dahlkamper-Sauerbrunn-Dunn
Mewes - Ertz - Lavelle
Heath - Morgan - Rapinoe

Leaving your best player on the bench again.