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Heads ups. I know a few people on here follow the WNT. 2019 Women's World Cup starts today in France. France plays S. Korea (3:00 EDT on FS1)

USA is in Group F with Thailand, Chile and Sweden

6/11 USA vs Thailand (3:00 EDT Fox)
6/16 USA vs Chile (12:00 EDT Fox)
6/20 USA vs Sweden (3:00 EDT Fox)

Most of the other teams games will be on FS1.
 
Thanks for touting this, Meyers. I get almost as excited watching the WNT in soccer as I do watching our Huskies. This is often a beautiful game with all of the qualities we love in WCBB (UConn style). The US has a really good chance of winning it all with great talent everywhere but in goal. That may mean the WNT will have to outscore its opponents, but they're very capable of doing that. Hope many will avail themselves of a chance to watch the world's best; it happens only once every 4 years . . .
 
The two most likely results for the U.S. are either a championship or else elimination in the quarterfinals. By bad luck, they are on track to play France, who is a co-favorite in the betting lines, in Paris in the quarters. France will also have more rest. That's a match that should have been the Final.
 
The two most likely results for the U.S. are either a championship or else elimination in the quarterfinals. By bad luck, they are on track to play France, who is a co-favorite in the betting lines, in Paris in the quarters. France will also have more rest. That's a match that should have been the Final.
Unless USA or France comes in 2nd in their group. :rolleyes:
 
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Well, I am guessing most will not identify WWC as Women's World Cup. I was trying to connect it to some Women's Wrestling event :oops:
 
France looks great against SK. Better than the US has against inferior competition. I see them winning it all.
 
Well, I am guessing most will not identify WWC as Women's World Cup. I was trying to connect it to some Women's Wrestling event :oops:
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France looks great against SK. Better than the US has against inferior competition. I see them winning it all.
That's my guess.
 
Maybe the VAR instrumentation was made in South Korea? :rolleyes:

France disallowed a beautiful goal by a micro-inch offside ruling.
 
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France has size and athleticism up front and speed at the wings. So tough. They also look precise off of set pieces. Now, a good counter attacking team with strength and speed up the middle can make these gals pay. Also, let's see how they play from behind at home or react to a close game in the final minutes
 
France has size and athleticism up front and speed at the wings. So tough. They also look precise off of set pieces. Now, a good counter attacking team with strength and speed up the middle can make these gals pay. Also, let's see how they play from behind at home or react to a close game in the final minutes

They also have the best on ball skills and often exhibit excellent combination play. I am sure US could get some joy over the top and in in counter attack play but France plays soccer the way UConn plays basketball. (i.e Beautifully). Not saying you can't ugly up the game a bit to compete (a bit like the way other WCBB teams are beginning to deal with UConn) if the US are at the top of their game but ...
 
They also have the best on ball skills and often exhibit excellent combination play. I am sure US could get some joy over the top and in in counter attack play but France plays soccer the way UConn plays basketball. (i.e Beautifully). Not saying you can't ugly up the game a bit to compete (a bit like the way other WCBB teams are beginning to deal with UConn) if the US are at the top of their game but ...
The US should be the favorite until another teams proves otherwise and the US has just as good of a attacking team as France does.
 
France put on a clinic today. Overall they have amazing field balance, fluidity and cohesiveness. They have a great balance of stars and glue players. Renard and Mbock Bathy are two of the best central defenders I've seen.
 
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They also have the best on ball skills and often exhibit excellent combination play. I am sure US could get some joy over the top and in in counter attack play but France plays soccer the way UConn plays basketball. (i.e Beautifully). Not saying you can't ugly up the game a bit to compete (a bit like the way other WCBB teams are beginning to deal with UConn) if the US are at the top of their game but ...
Truth.
 
After France's fireworks on opening day, today's performances seemed a bit underwhelming. Germany in particular looks lightweight compared to previous editions; they were fortunate that China squandered many scoring opportunities. Spain is identified as an up-and-coming team, but needed some miscues (and a questionable VAR ruling) to overcome an early 1-0 deficit to South Africa. Norway was probably the most impressive of today's winners, not without help from Nigeria's defensive collapses.
 
Looking forward to Aus-Italy, Think it will be closer than expected. England v Scotland should be good too.
 
Pretty sad that Brazil's Marta is injured (may make it back later in the tournament) and Brazil as a team is such a mess. They were always alot of fun to watch.
 
Australia goes down to Italy. Italy's keeper strong at the end, Australia's not so much.The upsets have begun. Hope there's more as long as they don't involve the US.
 
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I'll take the win but what's with these "delayed offside flags"? If the ref believes the play is offside raise the flag and stop the play...why continue on?

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I'll take the win but what's with these "delayed offside flags"? If the ref believes the play is offside raise the flag and stop the play...why continue on?

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The short answer is because of VAR.

But you might also be thinking of the "delay" that had already been instituted before VAR. Several years ago it was decided that the AR shouldn't raise his flag until the player in offside position either touches the ball or interferes with the opponent.


Law 11 on offside is soccer’s only complex rule and it has become more complicated of late as the AR must delay raising the flag as many things could occur before the attacker in an offside position becomes involved in the play. He becomes involved by interfering with play (touching the ball), or interfering with an opponent (such as challenging for the ball with a defender right there or being in the visual path of the goalkeeper when a shot is taken), or gaining an advantage (the attacker is in an offside position when a teammate takes a shot and the ball rebounds off the crossbar or upright to that attacker or comes to the attacker from a deliberate save). The only time with the offside decision that the flag should be raised quickly is if the attacker in an offside position could collide with the opposing team’s keeper.​
 
I'll take the win but what's with these "delayed offside flags"? If the ref believes the play is offside raise the flag and stop the play...why continue on?

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Because with VAR they can go back and review so they wait to see if it was a goal scoring opportunity or not
 
The short answer is because of VAR.

But you might also be thinking of the "delay" that had already been instituted before VAR. Several years ago it was decided that the AR shouldn't raise his flag until the player in offside position either touches the ball or interferes with the opponent.


Law 11 on offside is soccer’s only complex rule and it has become more complicated of late as the AR must delay raising the flag as many things could occur before the attacker in an offside position becomes involved in the play. He becomes involved by interfering with play (touching the ball), or interfering with an opponent (such as challenging for the ball with a defender right there or being in the visual path of the goalkeeper when a shot is taken), or gaining an advantage (the attacker is in an offside position when a teammate takes a shot and the ball rebounds off the crossbar or upright to that attacker or comes to the attacker from a deliberate save). The only time with the offside decision that the flag should be raised quickly is if the attacker in an offside position could collide with the opposing team’s keeper.​


True on all counts. Some refs still pop the flag too soon despite constant instructions. These instructions go back more than "several years" however. I still have emails from the USSF from my reffing days in the early 2000's instructing refs to keep the flag down until there is some involvement in the play. Those emails also reference FIFA papers.
 
Because with VAR they can go back and review so they wait to see if it was a goal scoring opportunity or not


To expand on this for those who don't follow soccer: If the AR pops the flag for offside, that stops the play - and if he is wrong, it may cost a team a great goal-scoring opportunity. His mistake could easily decide the game. But if he mistakenly does not flag for offside, allowing play to continue, and a goal is scored, then VAR will disallow the goal and no harm has been done. So it makes sense to not put up the flag unless you are sure - since one kind of mistake can be catastrophic while the other kind of mistake causes no harm (other than to trigger a brief delay).
 
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