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Who's your list for next HC?

Slick said:
I think Clay was paid almost 5 Million. I think our head coach and his entire staff will be less then he was paid.We need a young coach who is making 300 to 450 thousand. Give him an incentive package that includes winning games.
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$4.6 million... public information
 
FfldCntyFan said:
That was GDL. I don't want to rehash it as I'll want to punch a hole in one of my walls remembering what happened then but there were a few guys (Nebrich included) who could have helped us quite a bit but were never given the opportunity.

As far as Day goes, he did some nice things once TJ became head coach. Prior to that, GDL made it clear who ran the offense.
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Yes, that kid who left UConn to go to Indiana could’ve helped also. My apologies, can’t remember his name. IIRC his father pulled him out of UConn early in the season.
 
UCSouth said:
Yeah, they're not doubling Hurley's salary for the football coach.
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That’s BS and you know it. At any successful P5 football program in the country the football coach makes 2 and sometimes 3 times what the basketball coach makes. If UConn wants a slam dunk on a football coach hire they have to pay that. Football drives the bus, and if UConn wants that bus on campus they will have to pay the going rate. They can pay that if Benedict and the BOT agree to it. I don’t know if they will but that’s what’s required. They could get lucky and lowball some young guy with no experience like they did with Geno and the women’s team, but that’s a shot in the dark.
 
CONN78SEJ said:
Yes, that kid who left UConn to go to Indiana could’ve helped also. My apologies, can’t remember his name. IIRC his father pulled him out of UConn early in the season.
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That was Richard Lagow, another example of the P era disfunction. During summer practice when he and Boyle were true freshman and Casey was a redshirt freshman, Desmond Connor (a P shill who had extended access to practices) stated a couple of times that Lagow appeared to be the most advanced of the three. However he somehow ended up third of the three on the depth chart (which led to his leaving school. The kicker was after getting canned a few games into that season P stated that he did what "they" wanted, even favored "their kids at quarterback". My guess is "they" were local coaches and that placement on the depth chart was more due to where they played HS football than performance (Lagow's father said basically this in a rant shortly before his son left UConn).

Not to disparage local talent but ranking players as a means to make HS coaches happy (as opposed to performance) is not a good way to go about things, especially considering how limited the local talent pool is.
 
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freescooter said:
How about Moncton from Army. Turned a long term doormat around. I think the upside at UConn is a good deal higher than Army, too.
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J Monken has been mentioned several times over the past few years for bigger HC jobs, but the fact that he is a Paul Johnson Triple Option disciple works against him.

That may be just the kind of gimmicky offense that UConn needs to get rolling in the right direction, but I wouldn't count on it unless he had a plan to transition into a more pro style.

Would much prefer cousin Todd, OC Georgia, formerly HC Southern Miss.
 
CONN78SEJ said:
I hope he wasn’t the guy who advised PP to play Johnny McEntee instead of Mike Nebrich who broke every Virginia high school football record for quarterbacks. Nebrich transferred two months later to Fordham at the insistence of the new head coach there, a guy named Joe Morehead. Morehead recruited Nebrich at UConn, so Joe knew what he had. All of a sudden Fordham was rolling over people.
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PP installed a new prostyle offense when he got here so McEntee may have made more sense at qb than Nebrich. Moorehead ran more of college style read option offense. In my humble opinion, if PP had kept Moorehead as the OC and played Nebrich at qb we would have had winning records the first two years of PP's career at Uconn. Our defense was still pretty good those two years. Too me, its a lack of understanding of the players on your roster and the likelihood of the type of of players you are going to attract to Uconn. As such, I don't want anyone from the NFL coming to Uconn to try to save our program.
 
CONN78SEJ said:
That’s BS and you know it. At any successful P5 football program in the country the football coach makes 2 and sometimes 3 times what the basketball coach makes. If UConn wants a slam dunk on a football coach hire they have to pay that. Football drives the bus, and if UConn wants that bus on campus they will have to pay the going rate. They can pay that if Benedict and the BOT agree to it. I don’t know if they will but that’s what’s required. They could get lucky and lowball some young guy with no experience like they did with Geno and the women’s team, but that’s a shot in the dark.
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I don't know what you think I wrote, but knowing the history of UCONN paying the football coach...he isn't going to make double what Hurley makes. As far as football driving the bus, it most certainly does...at schools that emphasize football. Based on everything that we've seen, UCONN isn't one of those schools. Would it be nice? It would be very nice, but track record doesn't indicate it. Hopefully they can find lightning in a bottle once again.
 
UCSouth said:
I don't know what you think I wrote, but knowing the history of UCONN paying the football coach...he isn't going to make double what Hurley makes. As far as football driving the bus, it most certainly does...at schools that emphasize football. Based on everything that we've seen, UCONN isn't one of those schools. Would it be nice? It would be very nice, but track record doesn't indicate it. Hopefully they can find lightning in a bottle once again.
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Football drives the bus for every sport at every FBS school. UConn in all sports, including basketball, will die a slow death if in fact, as you say “UConn is not one of those schools”. Benedict and the school knows this, that they have to hire a decent coach and pay big bucks. The return on the investment is definitely worth it.
 
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CONN78SEJ said:
That’s BS and you know it. At any successful P5 football program in the country the football coach makes 2 and sometimes 3 times what the basketball coach makes. If UConn wants a slam dunk on a football coach hire they have to pay that. Football drives the bus, and if UConn wants that bus on campus they will have to pay the going rate. They can pay that if Benedict and the BOT agree to it. I don’t know if they will but that’s what’s required. They could get lucky and lowball some young guy with no experience like they did with Geno and the women’s team, but that’s a shot in the dark.
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Care to try again?

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This is a list of the 25 highest paid MBB coaches in 2020, plus Hurley (I removed Wright and Cooley as their schools don't play FBS).

As you can see, only Georgia and Oklahoma paid more than 2x the MBB coach's salary. Most pay about 25% more.

Of the top 10 highest paid FB coaches, Alabama, LSU, Clemson, Michigan and Florida are not represented here (Texas A&M, Georgia, Auburn, Oklahoma and TCU are in the chart), so let's look at those five football powers:

Saban: $9.1 / Oats $3.225 = 282%
Orgeron: $8.688 / Wade: $2.5 = 347% (interestingly, Kim Mulkey will make at least $3 million this year)
Swinney: $8.258 / Brownell: $2.5 = 330%
Harbaugh: $8.054 = Howard: $2.2 = 366%
Mullen: $6.070 / White: $3 = 202%

So out of the top 25 football programs, once you add those five in to the chart, there are three schools that pay 3x what the hoops coach makes and a total of four schools that pay more than 2x.

So basically, all you're asking is that UConn behave like one of the top two teams in the SEC, ACC and B1G as far as dropping a top 10 salary for an FBS coach, and similar top-10-ish salaries for assistants. To coach in the Northeast in barren recruiting grounds for a school with nearly zero tradition and a fanbase that only supports winners and even then doesn't travel well to bowl games.

Simple and reasonable ask, lol.

Your argument and facts were wrong, and you're delusional.
 
LoyalFanCT said:
Didn't he have a 24-63 record at Georgetown? Sorry, I think I have the wrong Coach Kelley.
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Never coached at Gtown. Came straight to Presby from coaching high school.
 
Ehhh....how long until the novelty wears off? I think it's entertaining and a novel concept, but what happens when opposing teams try the same tricks? And will our level of play improve automatically because we go for it on 4th down all the time, or will it just be four-and-outs instead of our current three-and-outs? Crazy schemes, stories about scorpions and frogs, fish cakes, red pants...we've already tried novelty. It sure beats boring, but does it equal wins?
 
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I’m not as confident as some that Benedict’s interview list will have strong names in it, especially if we finish 0-12 or 1-11 and are non-competitive in a lot of games.
Because of that, I’d like to see him at least grant an interview to Jeff Devanney.
Yea the NESCAC won’t excite some people here but the guy has been a dominant head coach for 15 years at Trinity, is still fairly young, and is a lifelong CT guy who won’t be looking for a the first train out of here if he succeeds in turning this thing around after a few years.
Also has experience working with Guys who turned out to be future NFL head coaches when he was down working briefly at Georgia Tech.
I have nothing against going the coordinator route, but as others have said, there is something about being the CEO of a program and being great at it for a long stretch.
Again, all I’m saying is that DB should at least interview the guy, what do you have to lose?
 
hardcorehusky said:
The Boneyard: Hire Kelley
The Boneyard: Saw his picture, he has gray hair, umm NO
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I would love to see someone like Coach Kelley at Uconn. We be talk of the town, and be on highlight films regularly. He can win big here. He is also old enough that he might stay here long term.

His philosophy is same as mine even I used to play NCAA football on the PS3 :)
 
storrsroars said:
Care to try again?

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This is a list of the 25 highest paid MBB coaches in 2020, plus Hurley (I removed Wright and Cooley as their schools don't play FBS).

As you can see, only Georgia and Oklahoma paid more than 2x the MBB coach's salary. Most pay about 25% more.

Of the top 10 highest paid FB coaches, Alabama, LSU, Clemson, Michigan and Florida are not represented here (Texas A&M, Georgia, Auburn, Oklahoma and TCU are in the chart), so let's look at those five football powers:

Saban: $9.1 / Oats $3.225 = 282%
Orgeron: $8.688 / Wade: $2.5 = 347% (interestingly, Kim Mulkey will make at least $3 million this year)
Swinney: $8.258 / Brownell: $2.5 = 330%
Harbaugh: $8.054 = Howard: $2.2 = 366%
Mullen: $6.070 / White: $3 = 202%

So out of the top 25 football programs, once you add those five in to the chart, there are three schools that pay 3x what the hoops coach makes and a total of four schools that pay more than 2x.

So basically, all you're asking is that UConn behave like one of the top two teams in the SEC, ACC and B1G as far as dropping a top 10 salary for an FBS coach, and similar top-10-ish salaries for assistants. To coach in the Northeast in barren recruiting grounds for a school with nearly zero tradition and a fanbase that only supports winners and even then doesn't travel well to bowl games.

Simple and reasonable ask, lol.

Your argument and facts were wrong, and you're delusional.
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Your analysis is so biased and f………ing flawed just to support your stupid argument. I’m at a loss for words. Make the same analysis for the AP top 25 football teams as of yesterday and repost it. I have news for you, the New Big East is dying a slow death, because they won’t play FBS football. With the exception of us and Villanova the league is awful. When did Georgetown, StJohns, Seton Hall, or Providence last close the season in the top 10. Even Gonzaga is beginning to lose basketball recruits to the football schools.
 
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WestCoastHusky said:
I would love to see someone like Coach Kelley at Uconn. We be talk of the town, and be on highlight films regularly. He can win big here. He is also old enough that he might stay here long term.

His philosophy is same as mine even I used to play NCAA football on the PS3 :)
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We'll be ridiculed by the same people that are promoting him now. But if he's a good Coach and we start to win some games they'll be fighting ro get back on the bandwagon.
 
Jimdish255 said:
We'll be ridiculed by the same people that are promoting him now. But if he's a good Coach and we start to win some games they'll be fighting ro get back on the bandwagon.
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He did mention he calls plays based on statistics. I say why not in this modern football era? He could be a pioneer in the sport. We didn't make it work with all these ultra conservative coaches, so why not try the other end?

A high power offense would be super fun to watch.
 
Kelly would at least seem to make UConn fun to watch and hopefully play for.

At least on offense.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
That was Richard Lagow, another example of the P era disfunction. During summer practice when he and Boyle were true freshman and Casey was a redshirt freshman, Desmond Connor (a P shill who had extended access to practices) stated a couple of times that Lagow appeared to be the most advanced of the three. However he somehow ended up third of the three on the depth chart (which led to his leaving school. The kicker was after getting canned a few games into that season P stated that he did what "they" wanted, even favored "their kids at quarterback". My guess is "they" were local coaches and that placement on the depth chart was more due to where they played HS football than performance (Lagow's father said basically this in a rant shortly before his son left UConn).

Not to disparage local talent but ranking players as a means to make HS coaches happy (as opposed to performance) is not a good way to go about things, especially considering how limited the local talent pool is.
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This is unfair. In my opinion, UConn had pretty good QB depth with Lagow, Cochran, Whitmer, and Boyle. Lagow was upset from the start and delayed his signing with UConn as they brought in Tim Boyle late. And, he left before the season started. It happens as all of the QBs can't play.

Cochran had a pretty good year as he went 3-1 as a starter to end the season under Weist competing 63.4% of his passes for 1293 yards and 11 TDs and 4 INTs. He looked like the QB of the future, but concussions got the best of him. Boyle is now in the NFL. I don't think you can blame PP/GDL for putting Cochran and Boyle ahead of Lagow on the initial depth chart.
 
I think Kelley would be a bold move. It certainly would get UConn some viewers. I don't see it happening but it would be interesting. I still think Jason Candle is the move.
 
CONN78SEJ said:
Football drives the bus for every sport at every FBS school. UConn in all sports, including basketball, will die a slow death if in fact, as you say “UConn is not one of those schools”. Benedict and the school knows this, that they have to hire a decent coach and pay big bucks. The return on the investment is definitely worth it.
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See post #677, I think you and I are done here.
 
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