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Yes it is. Not sure how I saw it scheduled for midnight earlier today. My mistake. :oops:
The 8 am rebroadcast time is still right.
Yeah no problem, just didn't want anyone to miss it if they were looking for it tonight.
 
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Will be repeated on NBATV once more Sunday night at 12:30.
 
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Updated roster of everyone that's not in the WNBA finals.

9/21 is the first game in the tournament, and the WNBA finals goes through 9/20.
Looks like Plum, Gray, and A'ja won't make it.
The USA will have a hard time winning in Australia. Australia at home has to be the favorite to win it all.
 

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9/21 is the first game in the tournament, and the WNBA finals goes through 9/20.
Looks like Plum, Gray, and A'ja won't make it.
The USA will have a hard time winning in Australia. Australia at home has to be the favorite to win it all.

So you cant have players come to the tournament in the late rounds when they really may be needed? The line up has to be set prior to game 1?

But even so, I would add Wilson and Gray to my roster and start the early games two players short until they can travel down.

On the CT side, are Thomas and Jonquel considerations?
 
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9/21 is the first game in the tournament, and the WNBA finals goes through 9/20.
Looks like Plum, Gray, and A'ja won't make it.
The USA will have a hard time winning in Australia. Australia at home has to be the favorite to win it all.
I guess it depends on how long the series goes and how the players feel. If the series end in 3 or possibly even 4, those players could still be available along with Brionna Jones, Jackie Young and Alyssa Thomas. It'll be interesting, I honestly wouldn't blame any of the players in the finals for not going, I'm sure playing in that is draining enough.
 
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So you cant have players come to the tournament in the late rounds when they really may be needed? The line up has to be set prior to game 1?

But even so, I would add Wilson and Gray to my roster and start the early games two players short until they can travel down.

On the CT side, are Thomas and Jonquel considerations?

Good question - are there rules in FIBA that would prevent late additions?

I guess it depends on how long the series goes and how the players feel. If the series end in 3 or possibly even 4, those players could still be available along with Brionna Jones, Jackie Young and Alyssa Thomas. It'll be interesting, I honestly wouldn't blame any of the players in the finals for not going, I'm sure playing in that is draining enough.
Factor in the travel and time difference. How quickly can they adjust to be effective?
 

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So you cant have players come to the tournament in the late rounds when they really may be needed? The line up has to be set prior to game 1?

But even so, I would add Wilson and Gray to my roster and start the early games two players short until they can travel down.

On the CT side, are Thomas and Jonquel considerations?
Jonquel Jones is from the Bahamas but also has Bosnian Citizenship and plays for them. So, Jones is not in consideration.

Thomas possibly. Was invited to the Training in Vegas and was named to the 2022 Olympic Qualifying Team on Feb. 7, 2022. Interestingly, Thomas hasn't made a USA team since the 2012 3x3 game.
 
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Depending on who actually plays this doesn't look like it will be an easy tournament for the US Team. Even if the WNBA finals participants wind up joining the team in time to play this unit is definitely one of transition.

Maybe the Americans need to not come out on top in a tournament or two to get the desire and drive back. When the 96 national team was assembled they not only had great talent but also a drive to win and play for each other. The legacy of players like Bird, DT, Catchings, Charles, Fowles has carried the WC and Olympics teams for several cycles but they are gone. Can Stewie, Aja, Loyd, Gray, Ionescu, Plum, and others take over and keep it going? I'd say yes, but this is a dangerous tournament for the US given the non existent window to get players there plus the sheer number of question marks and unproven players who will be forced to play some minutes.
 
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Good question - are there rules in FIBA that would prevent late additions?
Learned through this ESPN article that there is a 48 hour cut off point prior to the start of the tournament. If the finals go 5 games, I don't see late additions being possible.


"The Americans still have 18 players on their roster, including six who are playing in the WNBA Finals that begin Sunday. The final 12-player roster for the World Cup is due 48 hours before the start of play."
 

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Learned through this ESPN article that there is a 48 hour cut off point prior to the start of the tournament. If the finals go 5 games, I don't see late additions being possible.


"The Americans still have 18 players on their roster, including six who are playing in the WNBA Finals that begin Sunday. The final 12-player roster for the World Cup is due 48 hours before the start of play."
So, assuming they need to go to 5 games, I still think the best strategy is to put Aja and Gray on the list and play the early games with a reduced roster as needed.
 
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So, assuming they need to go to 5 games, I still think the best strategy is to put Aja and Gray on the list and play the early games with a reduced roster as needed.
You put A'ja, Plum, and Gray on the roster.
The first game against Belgium you have 9 players available, and hope you win.
 
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So, assuming they need to go to 5 games, I still think the best strategy is to put Aja and Gray on the list and play the early games with a reduced roster as needed.
As long as A'ja and Stewie are there just get to the finals, and you have a chance to win. Dolson may not be great, but a big body to set picks, can shoot, pass to A'ja, and Stewie.
You have enough guards, Gray, Loyd, Plum, Ionescu, Atkins.
If the rookie bigs can give you 35-40 minutes of quality play a game they should win.
In the knockout rounds A'ja and Stewie are playing 35+ unless it's a blowout.
 
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So, assuming they need to go to 5 games, I still think the best strategy is to put Aja and Gray on the list and play the early games with a reduced roster as needed.
To clarify, does this mean play while waiting for Gray and Wilson to arrive in Australia? I have no idea if FIBA allows for late arrivals for their tournaments.
 

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From the link below:

Final rosters will be confirmed following the official Technical Meeting, which is set to take place on the eve of the event.

Rosters displayed on this page have been extracted from information made public by the relevant National Member Federations but do not necessarily correspond to the rosters that will play at the FIBA Women's Basketball World Cup 2022.

 

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Depending on who actually plays this doesn't look like it will be an easy tournament for the US Team. Even if the WNBA finals participants wind up joining the team in time to play this unit is definitely one of transition.

Maybe the Americans need to not come out on top in a tournament or two to get the desire and drive back. When the 96 national team was assembled they not only had great talent but also a drive to win and play for each other. The legacy of players like Bird, DT, Catchings, Charles, Fowles has carried the WC and Olympics teams for several cycles but they are gone. Can Stewie, Aja, Loyd, Gray, Ionescu, Plum, and others take over and keep it going? I'd say yes, but this is a dangerous tournament for the US given the non existent window to get players there plus the sheer number of question marks and unproven players who will be forced to play some minutes.
After the bronze medal at Barcelona 1992, USA Basketball did a tremendous job of revamping the national team program under the leadership of Carol Callan.

Fourteen years would go by before the US would lose at a major international competition (the 2006 World Championships in Brazil).

That was 16 years ago now. The way things are looking, we may be due for a loss. Maybe it's not altogether unhealthy for international basketball if the US doesn't go undefeated for 50 years.

I cringe, however, when I think of the narratives that will be spun out of a US loss in Australia.
 
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TBH it seems as if losing the World Cup vs Losing the olympics is miniscule . World cups are great to have but players seem to care more about the Olympic Gold. You never see highlights of how many World cups a player has won in the US versus how many gold medals they have won .
 

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TBH it seems as if losing the World Cup vs Losing the olympics is miniscule . World cups are great to have but players seem to care more about the Olympic Gold. You never see highlights of how many World cups a player has won in the US versus how many gold medals they have won .
No doubt the Olympics is viewed as more prestigious. Same reason why USA Basketball bases its hiring and other major organizational decisions on the Olympic quadrennial.
 
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After the bronze medal at Barcelona 1992, USA Basketball did a tremendous job of revamping the national team program under the leadership of Carol Callan.

Fourteen years would go by before the US would lose at a major international competition (the 2006 World Championships in Brazil).

That was 16 years ago now. The way things are looking, we may be due for a loss. Maybe it's not altogether unhealthy for international basketball if the US doesn't go undefeated for 50 years.

I cringe, however, when I think of the narratives that will be spun out of a US loss in Australia.
For better or worse the current cycle selection looks exactly like the men's process when they started to lose dominance: invite players who interested with some of the better ones declining for varous reasons, then put them together for a few practices and see what happens. The pandemic threw everything off for every national team across the world so it's probably not just the US experiencing this reduced cycle time. I just don't think the US will be as dominant as usual when looking at the current state of the roster. I hope I'm wrong and this team is the catalyst for the next wave of stars.

The 16 Olympics had probably the best mix of youth and veteran leadership possible with stalwarts like Bird, DT, and Fowles playing alongside Stewie, Griner, EDD, and Maya. Fun fact, of the 12 on that team will play in the WC. Of the 18 WC roster, there will be at most 4 and possibly just 2 returning. That's huge turnover in a relatively short amount of time. If the US is due for a loss this would be the time to get it.
 

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Here is an article on an analysis of the FIBA World's

It appears not much to worry about for the US

Other medalist hopefuls seem to be China, Japan and Home Australia. No Belgium. France, Cabada mentioned?

 

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TBH it seems as if losing the World Cup vs Losing the olympics is miniscule . World cups are great to have but players seem to care more about the Olympic Gold. You never see highlights of how many World cups a player has won in the US versus how many gold medals they have won .
I don't agree with this. Sure, the Olympics are more prestigious but to suggest that World Cups are a lot less important is just not accurate. Sue Bird still talks about the hurt of losing at the 2006 World Cup. I've had the good fortune to attend two World Cups (Istanbul in 2014 and Tenerife in 2018) and a few things stood out to me. The competition in those games is intense. The other countries care deeply about the World Cup and from what I witnessed Team USA cares just as much. The crowds are boisterous. I'd love for the US to host a World Cup. It's just basketball and a lot of fun.
 
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I don't agree with this. Sure, the Olympics are more prestigious but to suggest that World Cups are a lot less important is just not accurate. Sue Bird still talks about the hurt of losing at the 2006 World Cup. I've had the good fortune to attend two World Cups (Istanbul in 2014 and Tenerife in 2018) and a few things stood out to me. The competition in those games is intense. The other countries care deeply about the World Cup and from what I witnessed Team USA cares just as much. The crowds are boisterous. I'd love for the US to host a World Cup. It's just basketball and a lot of fun.
In volleyball, there are many who contend that a WC gold is more impressive than Olympic gold because the field is larger and the playing schedule more grueling. I don't know if there's a similar sentiment about the distinction in basketball.

A distinction I do notice is that the W doesn't seem to make an effort to modify scheduling for USWNT camp time and avoid player conflicts. I know It's different with the WC in late September vs. Olympics (usually) in August, but to have key players still in WNBA playoffs when the team is traveling to Australia is not good. It's tempting fate to assume we can win with a team that hasn't practiced together.
 

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The 16 Olympics had probably the best mix of youth and veteran leadership possible with stalwarts like Bird, DT, and Fowles playing alongside Stewie, Griner, EDD, and Maya. Fun fact, of the 12 on that team will play in the WC. Of the 18 WC roster, there will be at most 4 and possibly just 2 returning. That's huge turnover in a relatively short amount of time. If the US is due for a loss this would be the time to get it.
It's also worth noting that our roster slippage since 2016 has gone far beyond the natural aging cycle. No one could have predicted Maya's early retirement or what's befallen Griner in the past 9 months. That's 2 of the 3 positions IMO where the current roster is most downgraded from 2016 (along with point guard).
 

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