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superjohn said:
We're going to finish 5th in the Big East in Hurley's 5th season!
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We had a January swoon. We’re not the first good team that’s happened to. You conveniently leave out the dominating we did early in the season. How many teams this year are undefeated OOC?

Let’s see where we are after the BET before acting like this season is a failure, no?
 
Kemba15 said:
We had a January swoon. We’re not the first good team that’s happened to. You conveniently leave out the dominating we did early in the season. How many teams this year are undefeated OOC?

Let’s see where we are after the BET before acting like this season is a failure, no?
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And I guess after Hurley fourth season he’s supposed to finish top 4 for the rest of his career.
 
superjohn said:
We're going to finish 5th in the Big East in Hurley's 5th season!
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It's like people forgot we lost 70% of our minutes from last year, including 4 of our top 5 scorers. Why does the season number matter? This should be a down year, but instead he's recruiting and developing extremely well, hit the portal well, so we've been ranked in the top 25 the whole season since November and have a good chance at a protected NCAA seed (and better seed than last year).
 
AntG168 said:
Combo Guard/PG are the same thing in basketball today.
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If you’re in the Kemba, Boatright, Price mold then sure. But not if you’re really just a small 2 guard.
 
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auror said:
It's like people forgot we lost 70% of our minutes from last year, including 4 of our top 5 scorers. Why does the season number matter? This should be a down year, but instead he's recruiting and developing extremely well, hit the portal well, so we've been ranked in the top 25 the whole season since November and have a good chance at a protected NCAA seed (and better seed than last year).
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I don’t get the 5th in his 5th season thing either. As if every season is supposed to surpass the past one. With that logic by his 6th season anything less than 3rd is unacceptable . And so on and so on until anything less than a 1st place finish is unacceptable. Right?

That’s just not a realistic trajectory for any college program. You’re going to have down years. And this year isnt even that
 
AntG168 said:
I don’t get the 5th in his 5th season thing either. As if every season is supposed to surpass the past one. With that logic by his 6th season anything less than 3rd is unacceptable . And so on and so on until anything less than a 1st place finish is unacceptable. Right?

That’s just not a realistic trajectory for any college program. You’re going to have down years. And this year isnt even that
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This is easily our most talented team since Hurley has been here.

Yes, anything less than third next season will be unacceptable if we don't have anything to show for his first 5 seasons.
 
auror said:
It's like people forgot we lost 70% of our minutes from last year, including 4 of our top 5 scorers. Why does the season number matter? This should be a down year, but instead he's recruiting and developing extremely well, hit the portal well, so we've been ranked in the top 25 the whole season since November and have a good chance at a protected NCAA seed (and better seed than last year).
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This is pure nonsense. This shouldn't be a down year. It's the most talented team in the Big East and the most talented team Hurley has had since he's been here.
 
AntG168 said:
I don’t get the 5th in his 5th season thing either. As if every season is supposed to surpass the past one. With that logic by his 6th season anything less than 3rd is unacceptable . And so on and so on until anything less than a 1st place finish is unacceptable. Right?

That’s just not a realistic trajectory for any college program. You’re going to have down years. And this year isnt even that
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The same Big East teams that are apparently putting us to shame are all in the same category as us nationally. It’s just such a disingenuous way to frame it lol
 
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Kemba15 said:
But on the flip, all of our wins you give basically no credit yet you pile on after every loss. Interesting mindset.

4 years ago this team was under .500 in the AAC. They obviously need to win in the tourney and if we don’t everyone will be mad and there will be no pom poms.

But it boggles my mind how anyone can be that disappointed with where we are right now
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Xavier was basically .500 last year and went to the NIT. Now they’re where we are right now. I don’t get your point.
 
CTBasketball said:
Xavier was basically .500 last year and went to the NIT. Now they’re where we are right now. I don’t get your point.
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That’s with the transfer portal. When we were .500 in the AAC that didn’t exist. The transfer portal changed the speed of rebuilds. And to add to that Xavier severely under achieved last season. Miller inherited more talent than Hurley
 
superjohn said:
I didn't conveniently leave out anything. I think our play in the Big East has been wildly disappointing. I thought we played outstanding basketball in the out of conference slate and I thought we looked like the best team in the country. Big East coaches gameplanned for us and we haven't responded well.

I think we have the most talent in the Big East and I think we have final 4 talent. All we can hope for is that they kick butt in both but I'm certainly not expecting it.
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To me that’s a stretch without a real PG. With Cole on this roster I think we’re a top 5 team
 
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superjohn said:
This is easily our most talented team since Hurley has been here.

Yes, anything less than third next season will be unacceptable if we don't have anything to show for his first 5 seasons.
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You missed the point. It being his 5th, 6th, 7th, 30th season has nothing to do with anything. If we make the final 4 I promise you won’t care about a 5th place conference finish
 
superjohn said:
This is pure nonsense. This shouldn't be a down year. It's the most talented team in the Big East and the most talented team Hurley has had since he's been here.
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When most teams lose that many starters, minutes, and points, they have down years. That's the point. We're NOT having a down year, and are quite likely to get the best NCAA tournament seed we've gotten in 12 years. Because of the talent Hurley has assembled and developed.
 
AntG168 said:
That’s an insane mark to hold pgs to. You named 3 all time great college pgs . We’re spoiled
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Lol I named two guys who were late 2nd round picks. That’s too high of an expectation for us now?

I could run down the list of PGs in general and if the mark would get higher and higher. That’s what happens when they’re coached properly.
 
king conn said:
It seems what half the boneyard needs to learn is:

Just because someone is put in the point guard position, that does not necessarily mean they are point guards
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Yes, even if they are crowned as Point Guard (without a tight handle) in preseason thus shutting one's mind and laying it on the kid to play the script that you wrote.
 
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HuskyWarrior611 said:
Lol I named two guys who were late 2nd round picks. That’s too high of an expectation for us now?

I could run down the list of PGs in general and if the mark would get higher and higher. That’s what happens when they’re coached properly.
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Go ahead. I genuinely don’t care. The point is boat, price, and Kemba were great college pgs. And it had as much to do with physical ability as it did “coaching”. An RJ Cole with this group and we might be the #1 team in the country
 
We have a good team that can beat anyone . Our defense has been much improved. No sense focusing on what ifs but rather let’s just improve what we have( which is pretty good!)
 
upstater said:
Someone who can run the offense and get around the corner. Shouldn't be too much to ask.

You actually need 2 point guards, not just 1.

You can really see in the recruiting that it's not working. Diggins and Gaffney did not and could not do either of these things. It's gotta be a matter of priorities.
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Agree. If you can't even drive in the lane and score how can you even be a guard? Because you're a good defender???? You have to be able to make some kind of shot for yourself. This kind of the thinking produces the Ferrari in the garage. What we witnessed today did not feel or look good and it is about fundamentals.
 
superjohn said:
This is pure nonsense. This shouldn't be a down year. It's the most talented team in the Big East and the most talented team Hurley has had since he's been here.
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You’re speaking as if someone handed him these players. He reloaded the roster after losing 2 of its 3 best players. He’s a machine on the recurring trail.

I just don’t see the point in complaining so much when we’re 20-7 and a top 20 team. Enjoy the win. If we disappoint again in March we’ll all be complaining.
 
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