Walking Dead Season 8

[storrsroars]

I'm going with hedge fund manager and former athlete. Ruthless and arrogant. Also, his greaser look seems a bit too crisp/clean even in the apocalypse. More like the multi-millionaire on a custom Harley than a Daryl/Merle.

I'm guessing something akin to Will Patton's general character in The Postman. He was a copier salesman.

 

[Dove]

LOL. I don't think we get that yet. Gimple has said it's pretty straight out (war/gun fights) for the first 4 episodes. Then I imagine it'll slow down a little. Maybe then. I'm thinking he was a gym teacher. ala Mr Woodcock.

Im not saying it should happen soon. But within this season...maybe when he is looking up at Rick wielding Lucille, Gimple will fade to the back story.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Finally watched episode 2. Didn't suck, but this disjointed jumping to locations that are mostly not familiar is weird. At least at the radar station we've been there before. I have no idea where Rick and Daryl are. Even an overhead view would give us more context about these facilities.

I'll give "team good guys" credit, they are planning these attacks a whole lot better than they have previously. I don't know where they got the firepower, and why all their ARs seem to be full auto. They wouldn't be, and even if they were, only a bunch or morons would fire them in that mode in a post Apocalypse situation where there is no ammo at WalMart. But then, the gasoline would have degraded and stopped working several years ago too.

 

[meyers7]

Oh hey, Morales is ba....ahhh, nevermind.

 

[Chuck]

Definitely setting up an internal fight over humanity. Should all enemy combatants be killed regardless of surrender/capture (Daryl, Tasha, Morgan), or should they be treated as prisoners of war with the assumption that they will someday be released / rehabilitated ( Maggie (what Glen would've wanted), even Rick).

It's a tough question. I hope they don't make it too easy of an answer. The that killed the Kingdom kid should be killed (in my opinion). Morales had to be popped. The guy by the tree that Daryl killed? That's a tougher one.

Looks like the good guys are taking a beating in the next episode. Did Dwight tip off the Saviors? Is someone on to Dwight? Was the gun movement and ambush just luck?

 

[Dogdeacon]

Oh hey, Morales is ba....ahhh, nevermind.

That was a stupid waste of however many minutes of useless dialogue, presumably just because the guys name is a homonym for morals. Other hole was Maggie taking in the liar and the prisoners (how do they feed them, obviously will plot an escape/revolt). Otherwise a good episode, action moved well from place to place, Daryl killing the two guys pragmatically vs Rick was smart, and the Morgan - Jesus fight was particularly cool b/c you didn't know who would win.

 

[meyers7]

That was a stupid waste of however many minutes of useless dialogue, presumably just because the guys name is a homonym for morals.

Uhhh, no.

I think they wanted to show (or show Rick anyway), 2 people who were once on the same side, both traveled a rough road to get here. Met again as enemies, so who's bad, and who's good? Or are they both "Monsters"?

 

[Letsgohuskies11]

could barely get into Episode 3. I'm not sure if i'm just losing interest in this show or not completely paying enough attention.

 

[Dogdeacon]

Uhhh, no.

I think they wanted to show (or show Rick anyway), 2 people who were once on the same side, both traveled a rough road to get here. Met again as enemies, so who's bad, and who's good? Or are they both "Monsters"?

Its the same thing, are morals/morales dead, are we the walking dead/monsters or is it the zombies. What is the difference between zombie senseless killing to sustain zombie life vs humans (incidentally is a fed zombie fortified and more robust?!). Should Morgan kill or not kill, Carol, Daryl, Rick, Maggie. Etc. Essentially the debate between Shane & Dale or Rick wages into every scene for however many seasons. Daryl's line when he kills the guy after Rick gave his word was the lone sane writer in the room speaking for the exasperated audience, "it don't matter, not one little bit."

 

[meyers7]

Its the same thing, are morals/morales dead, are we the walking dead/monsters or is it the zombies. What is the difference between zombie senseless killing to sustain zombie life vs humans (incidentally is a fed zombie fortified and more robust?!). Should Morgan kill or not kill, Carol, Daryl, Rick, Maggie. Etc. Essentially the debate between Shane & Dale or Rick wages into every scene for however many seasons. Daryl's line when he kills the guy after Rick gave his word was the lone sane writer in the room speaking for the exasperated audience, "it don't matter, not one little bit."

But they are beginning to introduce that it will. If you are trying to society "build", you can't be killing everyone else off. Then there is no "build".

 

[HuskyHawk]

But they are beginning to introduce that it will. If you are trying to society "build", you can't be killing everyone else off. Then there is no "build".

The other element that they played up was that if they are just going to indiscriminately kill all the Saviors, then they are no better than the Saviors. It's bad guys against bad guys. I think Rick started to remember what he wanted to be, and probably was not happy that Daryl killed that guy. Morgan is obviously struggling. Carol had her struggle.

It will be interesting to see where they take this. The living killing the living mostly helps the dead.

 

[Dogdeacon]

The other element that they played up was that if they are just going to indiscriminately kill all the Saviors, then they are no better than the Saviors. It's bad guys against bad guys. I think Rick started to remember what he wanted to be, and probably was not happy that Daryl killed that guy. Morgan is obviously struggling. Carol had her struggle.

It will be interesting to see where they take this. The living killing the living mostly helps the dead.

Possibly, but they've never gotten to any long view of society building - this is way less deep and simply a setup for prisoner revolt. Do you expect them to institute a prison reform system teaching the saviors right from wrong?
The show isn't written well enough for a thoughtful treatise on how to rebuild society . Its dramatic tension is always centered on a villain. The formula is new bad guy is even worse. I find the gratuitous sprinkling in of repetitive crisis of conscience less and less convincing. This is what the 4th turn to that theme for Morgan? Carol too. Gotta be up to 25 conscience crisis for Rick (did it start with prisoner at Farm or earlier)?!

 

[meyers7]

Possibly, but they've never gotten to any long view of society building - this is way less deep and simply a setup for prisoner revolt. Do you expect them to institute a prison reform system teaching the saviors right from wrong?
The show isn't written well enough for a thoughtful treatise on how to rebuild society . Its dramatic tension is always centered on a villain. The formula is new bad guy is even worse. I find the gratuitous sprinkling in of repetitive crisis of conscience less and less convincing. This is what the 4th turn to that theme for Morgan? Carol too. Gotta be up to 25 conscience crisis for Rick (did it start with prisoner at Farm or earlier)?!

Earlier? In Vatos (1-4)?

 

[B1GEast]

I can't watch this guy soap opera any more.

Where the hell did everyone find semi automatic rifles with unlimited amount of ammo?

The tiger is stupid

I literally can't wait for the final episode.

I stopped watching, but I will watch the final episode.

'Hope you got your pants on"

That was the dumbest line ever

 

[meyers7]

The tiger is stupid

'Hope you got your pants on"

That was the dumbest line ever

They gotta throw the comic fans a bone now and then.

I literally can't wait for the final episode.

I stopped watching, but I will watch the final episode.

You might have a long wait on that one.

 

[huskysupporter]

could barely get into Episode 3. I'm not sure if i'm just losing interest in this show or not completely paying enough attention.

It ain’t exactly a show you have to pay attention too. It’s just a poor show. Tons of potential. And I think that’s what has me coming back, only to be dissapointed.

Just power watched all 3 episodes. Horrendous. And Lauren Cohens accent and acting in the third episode was hysterical. Has there been a worse attempt of an accent? Jack Nicholson in the departed is somewhat close.

 

[Mano]

I'm 5 minutes into this episode and I just can't take the actor playing Ezekiel seriously. I assume the Shakespearean delivery is part of the comic books character (I never got that far in the comic as to meet him) but it just rings hollow for me. Not the script per se but the actor's lack of gravitas. Hopefully they off him this episode.

 

[Mano]

Alright, just gonna give a flowing blow-by-blow of the episode.

During the previous episode recap in the beginning, during the ambush scene I couldn't help but think of this:


Why didn't Carol continue to mow down the Saviors filing into the room like ducks in a row after taking out those first few guys so handily?

Glad to see Jim Carrey's son is getting some work.

With Carol pinned down, wouldn't just a single grenade make all the difference for both the Saviors shooting at her and/or for Carol herself. Same with last episode with Aaron's battalion in a stalemate with the Savior forces.

 

[Mano]

Those were some lame Jeep chase stunts.

So what's the mystery chemical mutating the Walkers? Some kind of acid?

How much force would it take to tear through a tiger's hide? Shiva would've, should've been able to get out of that. Weak.

Not a terrible episode, although I'm sure my comments don't paint it as such. Would've been better with a more competently directed/choreographed chase scene. As an aside, do the action scenes on the whole seem a little amateurish to anyone else this season? I'm thinking back to when the Governor stormed the prison, and maybe its just my memory viewing it fondly, but that all seemed way more thrilling and tense in retrospect.

 

[huskysupporter]

The episode had an A Team feel to it. Saviors fire 4.7 million rounds at the truck Carol is hiding behind but she is good to go. Carol shoots through ceiling and kills everyone. Good stuff.

Chase scene made me cry. . . Laughing.

 

[Fishy]

Walkers cannot walk more than two miles an hour, but Ezekiel suddenly decides that he simply cannot escape this particular batch of walkers who are paying him no attention. And then a tiger, who can escape every walker in the world in one jump, decides to sit put in the middle of a group of them so they can eat him.

You know what killed that tiger? The CGI budget.

The other fatality in the episode was the idea that Lauren Cohen could act. RIP.

 

[huskypantz]

Walkers cannot walk more than two miles an hour, but Ezekiel suddenly decides that he simply cannot escape this particular batch of walkers who are paying him no attention. And then a tiger, who can escape every walker in the world in one jump, decides to sit put in the middle of a group of them so they can eat him.

You know what killed that tiger? The CGI budget.

The other fatality in the episode was the idea that Lauren Cohen could act. RIP.

I don't watch the show, but I had to see this clip. The fight scenes in Princess Bride were more realistic.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Walkers cannot walk more than two miles an hour, but Ezekiel suddenly decides that he simply cannot escape this particular batch of walkers who are paying him no attention. And then a tiger, who can escape every walker in the world in one jump, decides to sit put in the middle of a group of them so they can eat him.

You know what killed that tiger? The CGI budget.

The other fatality in the episode was the idea that Lauren Cohen could act. RIP.

She's just there for eye candy anyway, that's why she never looks pregnant. They shouldn't have killed Jessie.

This was a pathetic episode in almost every way. There's too much stupidity to even catalog it all. A bottom 5 episode.

 

[meyers7]

Walkers cannot walk more than two miles an hour, but Ezekiel suddenly decides that he simply cannot escape this particular batch of walkers who are paying him no attention. And then a tiger, who can escape every walker in the world in one jump, decides to sit put in the middle of a group of them so they can eat him.

You know what killed that tiger? The CGI budget.

Supposedly it was a very steep embankment. Hence why the walkers were stuck there. Yea, I really didn't get that from the shots.

Shiva gets killed in the comics, so she was a goner sooner or later anyway. They did mention the CGI budget, Kirkman laughed and rolled his eyes, don't think they are saving much money there without Shiva. Comparatively anyway.

Agree with most of you guys though, this was not one of the best episodes. They've done some good action episodes in the past, this one just didn't seem to work very well.

 

[meyers7]

And strangely enough, reading some of the on-line reviews of the episode, the critics seemed to really like this one.

Such as this from Forbes;

Naturally, this being an Ezekiel episode, it starts with a motivational speech. I could see it coming a mile off, too, as we flash back to the day the King and his troops set off to fight the Saviors. "Oh god," I said, "He's going to give another [expletive] motivational speech." And sure enough, he gives another speech. This was by far the worst thing about the episode. Without this awful opening scene, I could honestly call this a near-perfect episode of The Walking Dead.

 

[huskysupporter]

And I know I’m definitely in the minority but I am an Ezekiel fan.

Before this season there were only two characters that I was interested in - Carol and Morgan. Now you can add Ezekiel.

Characters I don’t mind: Aaron, Darryl, Jesus

Characters that are horrendous: Maggie, Carl, Rick, Negan

 

[Fishy]

Negan is the worst character on television...which is a shame, because the guy is the best actor on the show.

I thought Morgan was a really good character, but whenever the writers get bored, they give him another mental breakdown.

Darryl is fine. I admire any character who inexplicably gets fat during a zombie apocalypse.

Maggie is terrible. The actress is terrible. The fact that she is 27 months pregnant and can still fit in her jeans is terrible.

Rick is terrible. Remember the guy who nailed Rick’s wife? I miss that guy. We would have been better off with him.

Ezekiel is fine, Carol is fine. Jesus is fine.

The writers are terrible. They need new ones.

 

[Letsgohuskies11]

Negan is the worst character on television...which is a shame, because the guy is the best actor on the show.

I thought Morgan was a really good character, but whenever the writers get bored, they give him another mental breakdown.

Darryl is fine. I admire any character who inexplicably gets fat during a zombie apocalypse.

Maggie is terrible. The actress is terrible. The fact that she is 27 months pregnant and can still fit in her jeans is terrible.

Rick is terrible. Remember the guy who nailed Rick’s wife? I miss that guy. We would have been better off with him.

Ezekiel is fine, Carol is fine. Jesus is fine.

The writers are terrible. They need new ones.

That guy went on to do a lot better things. He is a great actor btw. I'm getting close to just giving up on the show from boredom.

 

[Mano]

Yea Jon Bernthal is a good actor no doubt. Haven't seen him as The Punisher yet, but it looks interesting. We'll see if his own show is any good when it comes out. Haven't been able to get into the other Marvel Netflix shows though. He was good recently in a small part in Baby Driver and had a fun character in The Accountant too.

I thought Shane on TWD was a great character, but towards the end he kinda became a whiny beotch.

 

[meyers7]

Yea Jon Bernthal is a good actor no doubt. Haven't seen him as The Punisher yet, but it looks interesting. We'll see if his own show is any good when it comes out. Haven't been able to get into the other Marvel Netflix shows though. He was good recently in a small part in Baby Driver and had a fun character in The Accountant too.

I thought Shane on TWD was a great character, but towards the end he kinda became a whiny beotch.

Well he did have to deal with Rick, Lori and Dale.