Agree with Fishy, less interesting path and further that was a boring, dumb poorly written and acted episode. Filled with holes, can't help myself...
Well disagree with you here. I thought it was a pretty good episode, though certainly not the best. Pretty good acting. I'll see if I can help you out with the holes.
- [ ]Kill Martinez on top of Winnebago where no one will see! (sarcasm)
[ ]No one sees Gov drag body, did he clean up golf club, body dragging area & top of Winnebago?
[ ]Why is the walker pit in the middle of their compound, seems a tad unsafe?
Well I didn't assume the Winnebago was in the middle of the camp. I figured it was further out, along the edges. Hence, there were probably not too many people around there. They seem kinda spread out through the woods. Only once did you see everyone together. One reason I think the Gov thinks it's not safe, too spread out. You'll notice after he takes control, they kind of circle the wagons (motorhomes) in close almost making walls (Woodbury) again. Which pretty much answers all 3 questions.
- [ ]Audience left to guess why he killed Martinez, I think it was so M wouldn't tell of his past but leaving it open was the less thoughtful road
I suppose. But that is one thing I do like about the series, they don't necessarily give you everything. Makes you think a little. (yea sometimes they kind of pound you over the head with an idea) As a for instance. In Breaking Bad they did a flashback about the book with the poem in it when the cop/brother finally figured things out to remind everybody, "hey remember this book?". In the Walking Dead, when Andrea died she told Rick "I know how the safety works." Which they didn't flashback, but people knew (or didn't know) was a reference to when Rick and Andrea first met and she held a gun in his face with the safety on. They didn't explain it for you, you had to think about it yourself. I prefer that, some people don't. They like to have everything spelled out for them. Not gonna get that in the Walking Dead.
Anyway, I think the Gov killed Martinez, because 1) Martinez said he was weak, I can't protect my family, I certainly can't protect your family. 2) Martinez wanted to share power with the Gov, which the Gov did not really want (the power), hence why he was saying "I don't want this" while killing Martinez. In the Gov's mind he was killing Martinez to protect his family. (his new one).
Group ambush
[ ]They have a car, why are their supply runs foraging in the woods?
[ ]Sitting in the woods they are able to immediately assess groups #s, supply quantity, quality and ability to be overrun. We are to assume they can walk in and shoot them all with no risk, yet at same time this group is alive 18 months into the apocalypse. We are sure there is no Darryl there?
That's where the whole episode broke down for me. The Governor's survival guide is to kill all threats yet he just lost his WHOLE FREAKIN' town because he operated under that dumba$$ assumption.
[ ]Oops I guess they were right cuz after surviving 18 months the group is dead within hours
This one is a little different. Yea they seemed to have cars/trucks/Winnebagos but they still hunt in the woods?? Not sure, maybe they don't have much gas?? Maybe the major roads are blocked by walkers (like the road the Gov tried)?? Well we don't know how long this group (the one that got massacred) had been there. Seems like Martinez's group would have run across them prior. So maybe they are more nomadic. Maybe like most groups this is just a small bit of what was left of them?? Granted we don't know much about the group.
As you notice the Gov doesn't seem to want to go kill the group and take their supplies. At least he doesn't advocate it. But the result shows him, yea they probably should have if they are going to survive. He is also finding out Martinez couldn't protect his family and it doesn't look like Pete can either. Hence bye-bye Pete. Hello Governor.
My problem with this was some group came through cleaned out this nomadic group while the Gov and brothers were out hunting and they didn't hear anything? Didn't run across this other group in the woods either?? I guess we can assume another nomadic group passing through???
Governor takeover
[ ]No one sees them pack, get in car drive out of camp and then come back?
[ ]Why make the two guys brothers? No one forgives his brother's murderer that quickly.
[ ]Surviving brother might have also realized the Gov killed Martinez
[ ]Oh you gave me a cigarette and lit it? Now I forgive you for killing my brother you le$$ stiff acting dip$hit, can't wait until you turn your wooden head and I put a bullet in it.
[ ]Great idea to lie about the brother's death but then bury him in plain sight
Yea, gotta agree with you a little on 1. Although, again I don't think the camp was a compact as you do. Brothers. We've seen brothers kill each other. But I don't know if Mitch actually forgives him. I think it's more Mitch, as the Gov suspected is a survivalist, like himself. And it was/is at least right now in Mitch's best interest to be on the Gov's side. His choice was be on Gov's side or die. He's a henchmen, not a leader. And like the Gov has no qualms about "surviving" and doing what he needs to do to survive.
Oh, forgot, also, Mitch is the tank driver. I think the Gov's gonna need him.
Again, I don't think the lake is necessarily, to the camp anyway, in plain sight. It is though the Gov's new fishtank.
I agree it wasn't the greatest episode, but it wasn't bad. And it gets the Gov to the prison to finish this off in the mid season finale. Which I am looking forward to.
