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A journalist more than anyone needs to consider their words carefully. The video was not of her gut reaction immediately after the game. Voepel had a full day to consider her remarks before the discussion. IMO, she eschewed accuracy in favor of a good story.
A good story? Mechelle was not writing a story she was being interviewed for a pod cast which I'm sure many here had not heard of or cared about prior to @SVCBeercats thread. What do you think Mechelle said that was not accurate? BTW Alexa Philippou was also on that pod cast with Mechelle and expressed similar sentiments, maybe we should should start a thread to bash Alexa also.
 
A good story? Mechelle was not writing a story she was being interviewed for a pod cast which I'm sure many here had not heard of or cared about prior to @SVCBeercats thread. What do you think Mechelle said that was not accurate? BTW Alexa Philippou was also on that pod cast with Mechelle and expressed similar sentiments, maybe we should should start a thread to bash Alexa also.
I suspect you are aware that stories can be delivered both in writing or orally, as with bedtime stories.

As for Alexa, did you even watch the podcast? She expresses no such sentiments. Alexa’s comments were confined solely to Christyn’s struggles and Geno’s comparison of Paige as a freshman to DT’s junior year at UConn.
 
SC had the last possession and would have won if the ball had gone in the basket.

In games where both teams are talented and hardworking, the team that should win is the one that makes clutch shots and the team that should lose is the one that does not.

Should also includes the saviest, most clutch player. Paige beat Boston on both counts. Boston shot off a stupid (perhaps ill-advised would be kinder) three attempt and couldn't put in a lay-up to win or do much in the overtime. Paige, as we are learning, was Paige.
 
For every, 'Yes' their is a 'No', for every 'Coulda' is a Shoulda'. One game does not make a 'Season'. Christyn, keep shooting and it will come back ! We are all behind you with full confidence, you will get it back. We all love you !
 
SC had the last possession and would have won if the ball had gone in the basket.

In games where both teams are talented and hardworking, the team that should win is the one that makes clutch shots and the team that should lose is the one that does not.

Should also includes the saviest, most clutch player. Paige beat Boston on both counts. Boston shot off a stupid (perhaps ill-advised would be kinder) three attempt and couldn't put in a lay-up to win or do much in the overtime. Paige, as we are learning, was Paige.
I had forgotten about Boston’s 3-pt attempt. I was amazed at that point in the game that she pulled the trigger on that shot. Boston just ended up at the top of the key with the ball in her hands, and I guess she decided, “What the hell!”
 
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Unfortunately, for many of us the corner bar is closed due to Covid, so we’re drinking at home these days......😏
I hear you, I debated using past tense but right now that’s what it is. Some bars in Jersey have opened but I have no desire to belly up with empty stools on either side of me. In truth I have no idea what the rules are in that regard but I’m 70 and taking no stupid chances. At home, the beer is still good, the company, well, the less said the better although my wife doesn’t know the difference between a basketball and a cheese ball so odds are pretty good she is not on here. 😉
 
I suspect you are aware that stories can be delivered both in writing or orally, as with bedtime stories.
I suspect you know damn well this was not delivered in writing but keep clinging to that.
 
My point is simply that while you quote Voepel’s qualifying comments said at the beginning and end of her remarks to support your position, you pass over the crux of Voepel’s argument in the middle, that SC should have won the game. She in no way acknowledges that either team could have won, something that is clearly acknowledged by Geno.

The problem I have with Voepel is the same problem I have with some here on the BY that believe beating Georgetown by a mere 24 points is somehow a failure on UConn’s part. Such arguments fail to give due credit and respect to Georgetown for competing hard and not rolling over when facing UConn.

The same “we should have won” argument was also suggested after the Ark loss. IMO, Ark outplayed UConn and deserved to win. It wasn’t handed to them, and SC did not hand UConn the game on Wednesday night, which was Voepel’s contention.
Voelpel pointed to those 4 missed layupsas evidence SC should have won. Mechelle did you look at those layups? Those that tossed them up choked. This happens in sports. It is not like horse shoes. They have to go in. No matter. Each could have gone in and come out. Result is the same. The "objective" sports journalist said the loser should have won. Remember this the next time you see her byline.
 
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You statement can also apply to South Carolina, Louisville, and others.

The ball has nothing to do with anything.

Geno had it correct in the post game interview. The team that wins it all will be the team that gets hot at the right time.
I know the ball doesn't make a difference, only curious about why different balls are being used, and why certain teams use different balls.
 
Who was the female comentator on the TV feed? With 12 seconds to play, just before SC played volleyball with the basket she says "I want the champs to win it the shot clock not in play." Sounds like the former ACC coach who is very biased against UConn - I'm blanking on her name.

PS. SC are not "the champs". No champ last year.
 
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Who was the female comentator on the TV feed? With 12 seconds to play, just before SC played volleyball with the basket she says "I want the champs to win it the shot clock not in play." Sounds like the former ACC coach who is very biased against UConn - I'm blanking on her name.
Which game broadcast are you referring to?
 
Which game broadcast are you referring to?
Sorry, UConn v. S C ... sounds like Beth Mowins. I paid no attention during the game. I was just listening to high lights and could not believe what I heard.
 
Sorry, UConn v. S C ... sounds like Beth Mowins. I paid no attention during the game. I was just listening to high lights and could not believe what I heard.
The broadcasters for the game were Monica McNutt and Lisa Byington. Monica played basketball at Georgetown.
 
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Voepel's opinion pieces (video or print) seem to fall into the standard ESPN template of creating controversy where there is none: who has the most to lose, what does it mean for team "X" moving forward, can they recover?

UConn made shots at the end. SC missed shots at the end. We won. They might use the loss as motivation. End of story.
ESPN is still pissed that they weren't the ones that broadcasted the game because of UConn's move to the Big East. They are missing out on the numbers that UConn gets vs many other teams. I just hope that FOX, FS1, FS2, and CBS Sports get better announcers on the remaining games that they telecast.
 
If you watch the replay of the "missed layups" at the end, it's not like they were right under the basket with no one on them. The Uconn defenders were CONTESTING them. And if you look close enough at the replay (and maybe slow it down a little) you'll see the shots were slightly DEFLECTED by the defenders as well. So it wasn't just a case of SC "missing easy shots". Uconn defenders deserve a little credit for MAKING THEM MISS. They were shots close to the basket but that doesn't make them easy shots when you have tall, athletic defenders in your face contesting and deflecting them.
It's like in the NFL when a team loses on a missed 20 yard field goal at the end and the narrative is "oh they missed an easy field goal at the end and should have won". But if the defender gets in and gets just enough of a hand on the kick to MAKE IT MISS then it's not all about the kicker missing a short kick. You have to give the defense credit for making a play just as much as the kicking team not getting it done.
 
That's pretty accurate. SC had 4 shots to win the game in regulation.

Accurate but BS. They missed all those attempts. We could just as soon say that Arike's prayer in 2018 "shouldn't have gone in".

There's no "should have won" in basketball except for whiners.
 
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Accurate but BS. They missed all those attempts. We could just as soon say that Arike's prayer in 2018 "shouldn't have gone in".

There's no "should have won" in basketball except for whiners.
:eek: Well I guess if you are going to put out BS best to make sure it is accurate.
 
Nice-you could care less what she had to say but you want the time you spent listening to her back? Suggest you spend you time more wisely.
Man, you got that right. When it comes to wasting time, I am a superhero.
 
You guys need to stop gunning for her and at least listen to what she said.
South Carolina had 4 shots to win the game at the end of regulation. She's not reliving the whole game in which either team had chances to put the game away. She specifically is talking about those 4 shots at the end of regulation. She specifically said "not to take anything from UCONN". @SVCBeercats way to antagonize the mass with that headline.

Yeah, and if timekeeper had pulled a "Clockwork Orange" that last tip in would have counted. Voepel reminds of a thousand guys I've sat next to in bars watching various sports where we rooted for different teams. Voepel is a pro. She knew the game would be the topic and of all the different aspects of the game she could have picked she decided to talk about how one of those tip in attempts "should have fallen"? That's what a SC fan would say to a UConn fan, not what a pro sports commentator should choose for a discussion topic. Michele is just trying to stir the pot.
 
Yeah, and if timekeeper had pulled a "Clockwork Orange" that last tip in would have counted. Voepel reminds of a thousand guys I've sat next to in bars watching various sports where we rooted for different teams. Voepel is a pro. She knew the game would be the topic and of all the different aspects of the game she could have picked she decided to talk about how one of those tip in attempts "should have fallen"? That's what a SC fan would say to a UConn fan, not what a pro sports commentator should choose for a discussion topic. Michele is just trying to stir the pot.
She should have talked about the ball. We would have been all good with that. (just kidding)
 
Yeah, and if timekeeper had pulled a "Clockwork Orange" that last tip in would have counted. Voepel reminds of a thousand guys I've sat next to in bars watching various sports where we rooted for different teams. Voepel is a pro. She knew the game would be the topic and of all the different aspects of the game she could have picked she decided to talk about how one of those tip in attempts "should have fallen"? That's what a SC fan would say to a UConn fan, not what a pro sports commentator should choose for a discussion topic. Michele is just trying to stir the pot.
It is Mechelle and UCONN was playing at home so any "clock work orange" would not only have been unlikely but also self inflicted. When I sit next to people at the bar and I'm curious about what team they are rooting for I just go ahead and ask them instead of assuming. If they give the correct answer, and make no mistake about it, there is a correct answer, I might buy them a round. Mechelle is no more of a fan of SC than she is a fan of UCONN. Some of the grown men on this board should stop disparaging these hard working women like Mechelle and Dee Kanter.
 
If SC won on a putback it would also be because UConn failed to box out well enough. Henderson took a pretty bad stepback to start that flurry without breaking down the defense, so everyone should have had their man and had good box out position (it was a bit of a funky rebound spinning to the baseline that the SC kid read well, or guessed well on, but either way we probably would have had some box out drills in practice on Tuesday). Coupled with the previous turnover on our last possession when the ball was out of Paige’s hands, and the last 30 seconds is pretty lamentable for us in that 56-54 loss on Earth 2.
 
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