"UConn Trying to Snatch $10 Million for a Phone Call with Ray Allen"

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

It won't go over well, but a lot of players are just by the fact that they're 18-22 years old.

True then in some cases, yet not nearly on Miller's level. Well, Earl Kelly was quite the character yet likeable enough in several one-on-one conversations. By contrast, Karl and Vern were decent guys ... at least to BS with ...

 

[CL82]

You really have to cross-reference all 13 threads on the topic...

On it!

 

[Excalibur]

Inept administration conspires behind the scenes with fired assistant to create fake case to justify firing head coach for cause. Do I have this right?

 

[Chief00]

True then in some cases, yet not nearly on Miller's level. Well, Earl Kelly was quite the character yet likeable enough in several one-on-one conversations. By contrast, Karl and Vern were decent guys ... at least to BS with ...

Earl was lots of fun. Sure he had a gangster side but I loved his Howie impersonations. He was also fun to play ball with.

 

[Chief00]

Inept administration conspires behind the scenes with fired assistant to create fake case to justify firing head coach for cause. Do I have this right?

I don’t believe there was coordination with Miller. He coordinated with his attorney and wife.

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

If someone could post it again, I'm 99% sure there is a line under “justification for firing with cause” that says something along the lines of “failure to maintain standards of performance expected by the program” or something. In that case it’s cut and dry. I’m probably wrong though of this is still a discussion.

 

[upstater]

He put his own ahead of the program and it's fair to resent him for that, but at least he "bled blue" once upon a time. At least he poured his soul into the program. Herbst and Benedict are corporate puppets who care about nothing beyond themselves.

He put his own ahead of the program? If you're, say, St. Bonaventure, would you ever hire this guy after this?

 

[Yardigan]

He put his own ahead of the program? If you're, say, St. Bonaventure, would you ever hire this guy after this?

Probably wouldn't hire this guy if I was, say...a warehouse, looking for a janitor.

 

[huskyrob1]

The KO threads are bizarre. I hope I am getting this straight: KO’s team took Benedict to the woodshed to get the deal he did but Benedict should not invoke the clauses in the contract that KO violated because everyone does it.

So if everyone does it the clause is a foolproof escape clause. That makes me think Benedict took KO’s team to the woodshed.

I think the moderators should be ashamed of themselves for allowing these threads to turn into debates that get hijacked by a select few who have their own agenda. This is a UConn Athletics "Fan" board not a forum to discuss how to destroy UConn Athletics, the AD and the schools president, who I think have done great jobs saving the football program and men's basketball program, and have elevated UCONN's academic standing to the point where the school had 40,000 undergraduate applicants last spring, and approx 15,000 graduate applicants. The fact that this school is growing by leaps and bounds in the quality of it's education programs, and it's facilities is amazing to me.

 

[champs99and04]

He put his own ahead of the program? If you're, say, St. Bonaventure, would you ever hire this guy after this?

Yes. What does Glen Miller owe the program? He was fired. I understand that as fans we like to think that there is some deeper allegiance to the program that transcends personal interest, but there's not. He won two titles here in his second go-around alone and has earned the trust of one of the greatest basketball coaches to ever live. He knows basketball. He can scout and gameplan with the best of them.

Perhaps he feels little remorse for throwing a program under the bus that employed an out-of-control head coach. Maybe he felt disrespected as the most tenured member of a relatively young coaching staff. More likely, he wanted to stick it to the school that came crying back after scapegoating him the year before.

"These guys want me to thread a needle so they can save on the buyout without disturbing their newest investment. The nerve. I think I'll watch the world burn instead."

 

[JMick]

Yes. What does Glen Miller owe the program? He was fired. I understand that as fans we like to think that there is some deeper allegiance to the program that transcends personal interest, but there's not. He won two titles here in his second go-around alone and has earned the trust of one of the greatest basketball coaches to ever live. He knows basketball. He can scout and gameplan with the best of them.

Perhaps he feels little remorse for throwing a program under the bus that employed an out-of-control head coach. Maybe he felt disrespected as the most tenured member of a relatively young coaching staff. More likely, he wanted to stick it to the school that came crying back after scapegoating him the year before.

"These guys want me to thread a needle so they can save on the buyout without disturbing their newest investment. The nerve. I think I'll watch the world burn instead."

what are you talking about? the school couldn't force Ollie to keep him as a coach

 

[champs99and04]

I think the moderators should be ashamed of themselves for allowing these threads to turn into debates that get hijacked by a select few who have their own agenda. This is a UConn Athletics "Fan" board not a forum to discuss how to destroy UConn Athletics, the AD and the schools president, who I think have done great jobs saving the football program and men's basketball program, and have elevated UCONN's academic standing to the point where the school had 40,000 undergraduate applicants last spring, and approx 15,000 graduate applicants. The fact that this school is growing by leaps and bounds in the quality of it's education programs, and it's facilities is amazing to me.

LOL. Yes, we need more censorship. The countless people defending the weakest move I can remember should feel more empowered and we should drown out any dissenting voices.

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

Probably wouldn't hire this guy if I was, say...a warehouse, looking for a janitor.

Who?
A) The departed fired for cause?
B) The previously fired, subsequent rat?
C) All of the above?

 

[champs99and04]

what are you talking about? the school couldn't force Ollie to keep him as a coach

No, but they still ultimately sided with Ollie by maintaining him after a disappointing year and then giving him the power to can a long-term assistant.

I could be overthinking it. Glen Miller might have no animosity towards the school and the school had to suffer the collateral damage of his beef with Ollie. Either way, while I don't agree with what he did, I can understand it.

 

[Yardigan]

Who?
A) The departed fired for cause?
B) The previously fired, subsequent rat?
C) All of the above?

Tuco Benedicto Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez...known as the Rat...

 

[upstater]

Yes. What does Glen Miller owe the program? He was fired. I understand that as fans we like to think that there is some deeper allegiance to the program that transcends personal interest, but there's not. He won two titles here in his second go-around alone and has earned the trust of one of the greatest basketball coaches to ever live. He knows basketball. He can scout and gameplan with the best of them.

Perhaps he feels little remorse for throwing a program under the bus that employed an out-of-control head coach. Maybe he felt disrespected as the most tenured member of a relatively young coaching staff. More likely, he wanted to stick it to the school that came crying back after scapegoating him the year before.

"These guys want me to thread a needle so they can save on the buyout without disturbing their newest investment. The nerve. I think I'll watch the world burn instead."

I didn't say he owed anything. I said he I'd rather not hire a guy who will rat me out to the NCAA if I fire him.

 

[huskyrob1]

LOL. Yes, we need more censorship. The countless people defending the weakest move I can remember should feel more empowered and we should drown out any dissenting voices.

You're disgusting.

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

OK, everybody out of the pool, and go watch the Ray Allen dunk mix that @tcf15 posted.
If Ray's going to be considered a booster, then let's all get a little boost.
He's not calling us, and we're not calling him, and that's OK by me.
If you want to come back here afterward, so be it.

 

[whaler11]

Inept administration conspires behind the scenes with fired assistant to create fake case to justify firing head coach for cause. Do I have this right?

Well the entire case isn't fake. Assuming that the Atlanta trip is true, that's a violation and if Ollie certified three times with Benedict there were no violations that would be the worst item we've seen to date.

But you've got the tune if not all they lyrics.

 

[Deadrody]

Who?
A) The departed fired for cause?
B) The previously fired, subsequent rat?
C) All of the above?

Rat ? Really ? Fact of the matter is, he should have reported these violations DURING his tenure at UConn, not after.

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

Rat ? Really ? Fact of the matter is, he should have reported these violations DURING his tenure at UConn, not after.

Overused, unproven description at this point perhaps. Yet, rolling with your "Fact of the matter" failure to report alleged violations DURING his UConn tenure portrayal, the subsequent attempted butt-saving rather reeks rodentia. Really!

 

[intlzncster]

Rat ? Really ? Fact of the matter is, he should have reported these violations DURING his tenure at UConn, not after.

If that was standard practice for assistants, there'd be no coaches left anywhere. Part of the job of an assistant is to enable the HC (to a degree) and be the fall guy if necessary. That's major college sports.