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Speaking of the bench, I very much appreciate Jana's enthusiasm and encouragement. She's a good teammate.
What many don’t see during the time outs is Jana is standing directly behind and intently bent looking over him as he charts out the scheme.she is so focused on what he is saying to the players you just know she is a coaches kid. The others mostly pay attention but look around with half-hearted interest. I am rooting for her to get back on the court and show that renewed effort she was demonstrating before this recent concussion.
 
Gael, I am not going to repost the entire back and forth between myself and Meyers, which is several posts long. But the specific comment that I first responded to was, “ND is NOT a good team.” Post #153
And I was responding to Tony calling ND a good team.

We just have different definitions of what a good team is.

And just for reference, I don't think Georgetown is a good team either. No matter how much we beat them by.
 
Gael, I am not going to repost the entire back and forth between myself and Meyers, which is several posts long. But the specific comment that I first responded to was, “ND is NOT a good team.” Post #153
I posted ND is not a good team, they are a weak team. I came to that conclusion after watching them play at least five games. I was responding to a poster who said ND is a good team. It was my way of saying that all teams UConn beats are not good teams. I believe I am the one who started this thought. Just what I believe.
 
I posted ND is not a good team, they are a weak team. I came to that conclusion after watching them play at least five games. I was responding to a poster who said ND is a good team. It was my way of saying that all teams UConn beats are not good teams. I believe I am the one who started this thought. Just what I believe.
I agree. Good teams don’t get beat by 38 points by anybody. Mediocre teams can.
 
ND is definitely having a down year. Injuries have also thinned the roster. We know what that's like.

Call it what you may. Makes no difference to many. UConn is the better team.
 
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UConn vs notre dame promoted as two of the best players in the country. Maybe so, but neither one of them was Hidalgo. Granted the defense geared toward stopping her, but did not out play Sarah, Azzi or KK.
Hidalgo had to deal with , perhaps, one of the best team defenses that UConn( or any women's team) has ever fielded. She played all but the last minute or so, had the ball in her hands much of the time, was harassed by that defense, yet only turned the ball over 3 times. She had very little help out there. Easy to see why she is one of the best players in the country. Would be interesting to see how UConn players would handle the kind of defense that they themselves play.
 
OK, I’m going to move on from this lengthy subjective discussion of whether or not ND is a “good” team to something that is completely objective. When UConn beat ND on Monday, the Irish were ranked 28th in the NCAA Net rankings. Any home win over any team ranked 30 or higher in the Net rankings is classified as a Quad 1 win. That can change as the season progresses depending on how ND performs the rest of the season.

So if you want to insure that UConn draws the #1 overall seeding in the Big Dance, you hope that ND maintains their position as a top 30 Net team for the remainder of the regular season. With that said, it’s worth noting that several earlier UConn victims have improved their Net rankings since they lost to the Huskies: Louisville (8), Iowa (13), & tOSU (18), although Louisville & Iowa were technically at neutral sites, which allows for a top 50 Net ranking to be considered a Quad 1 win.
 
The announcers didn't mention it because they were too busy conversing as though they were waiting for their order to arrive.
Will Fox ever chastise the announcers for the continual non-game/basketball rambling? For one example, as was mentioned in another post, there were subs brought into the game in the 4th Q without the announcers indicating who they were. All the players should receive recognition and their names announced when they first come into a game especially a game that is nationally televised. This should be a standard procedure. It should also be standard procedure to actually call the game, not carry on with unrelated conversation.
 
More than dribbling around, there are times when HH just stands there with the ball in her hand surveying the defense as the shot clock is winding down. She did that several times yesterday which prompted me to wonder, “What in the hell is she doing?”
In one of the earlier games on Monday, there was allusion to "too much dribbling." The announcers said that fans don't want to see someone just dribbling, they want to see cutting, passing, shooting. . . That mostly one person dribbling with little movement makes for boring basketball.
 
Any home win over any team ranked 30 or higher in the Net rankings is classified as a Quad 1 win. That can change as the season progresses depending on how ND performs the rest of the season.

Incorrect.
Home win against top 25. Neutral vs top 35. Road vs top 45.

 
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Will Fox ever chastise the announcers for the continual non-game/basketball rambling? For one example, as was mentioned in another post, there were subs brought into the game in the 4th Q without the announcers indicating who they were. All the players should receive recognition and their names announced when they first come into a game especially a game that is nationally televised. This should be a standard procedure. It should also be standard procedure to actually call the game, not carry on with unrelated conversation.
It is not. I've not seen it in the NBA, WNBA, MCBB, or WCBB.

Fox is in fact following standard procedure.

If that were followed, broadcasters of a TN game would have no time to talk about anything else. 🤣
 
Incorrect.
Home win against top 25. Neutral vs top 35. Road vs top 45.

You got me. What I gave you was Net rankings for MBB which, I just learned, is different than Net rankings for WBB.

Don’t ever ask AI anything……
 
well, Notre Dame is pretty obviously not as talented as they’ve been in the past few years
from where I sit, they would clearly be the second best team in the big east by a pretty wide margin and was happy to see a somewhat competitive first half
 
It is not. I've not seen it in the NBA, WNBA, MCBB, or WCBB.

Fox is in fact following standard procedure.

If that were followed, broadcasters of a TN game would have no time to talk about anything else. 🤣
And @WiseWillie
The game is on television not radio. Viewers can see who is on the floor and if they are fans, they know who is who. The only problem I have is when the refs blow their whistle for something away from the ball and the announcers don't mention the call. In this scenario I look at the Live Stats Play by Play and see what was called.
 
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I think you're on to something. There are several of our foes that are looking better than they did early in the season... I'm thinking Iowa, Lville, and Ohio State.
Saw Louisville playing South Carolina, and there were a couple of kids playing well that I didn't remember. I checked the boxscore, and neither played very much against us. They'll be much different if we face them again.
 
UConn is improving individually and as a team. Everybody is beginning to look for their shot and play with confidence. KK has been scoring and now is a threat from the outside. Ash is taking more shots as is Kayleigh. They are becoming threats and thats what UConn needs because opponents have left them open way too much and theyre shooting it and making more wide-open shots. This had been casually unexpected and now is becoming reality. All we need are threats to keep the defense honest and that helps Sarah and Azzi.

Im looking for UConn to make more pull up jumpers and when driving off the dribble to stop and pop not just run up and shot it. Paige was great at taking a split second as she went up for a shot. We need that to become contagious with everybody else. When I thought about it UConn really didnt shoot well from long range and still won by over 35. ND isnt what they were and ND has HH who is an AA and we held her to 16 pts with no pts in 2 qtrs. That tells me alot about our execution. We play as a team and teams win championships and BB is a team game.
 
Saw Louisville playing South Carolina, and there were a couple of kids playing well that I didn't remember. I checked the boxscore, and neither played very much against us. They'll be much different if we face them again.
uconnfan 68, when you say "much different" as in it will be more difficult for Louisville, I agree.

According to the ESPN boxscores, the only person Louisville played against SC that didn't play against UConn was sophomore Anaya Hardy who started, played 24 minutes and had 6 points and 5 rebounds (along with four fouls). Her points and rebounds are pretty close to her season averages.

UConn, on the other hand, didn't have Blanca available for that first game. Furthermore, our bench against the Cardinals (Jana, Ice, Allie and K9) scored 16 points. Collectively, these four in the rotation now (I'm excluding Ice) average 28.5 points per game off the bench.
 
uconnfan 68, when you say "much different" as in it will be more difficult for Louisville, I agree.

According to the ESPN boxscores, the only person Louisville played against SC that didn't play against UConn was sophomore Anaya Hardy who started, played 24 minutes and had 6 points and 5 rebounds (along with four fouls). Her points and rebounds are pretty close to her season averages.

UConn, on the other hand, didn't have Blanca available for that first game. Furthermore, our bench against the Cardinals (Jana, Ice, Allie and K9) scored 16 points. Collectively, these four in the rotation now (I'm excluding Ice) average 28.5 points per game off the bench.
My regular caution that I dont think all-game stats are meaningful for UConn (and many other teams). The number of blowouts skews the rotations and playing times, from what we will see in big games. I doubt we will see 28 points by the bench against top teams.

Leaving out Louisville, against the next 5 top teams UConn has faced,
Blanca is averaging 10 ppg
Jana/AZ/K9 are averaging a combined 7 ppg
 
My regular caution that I dont think all-game stats are meaningful for UConn (and many other teams). The number of blowouts skews the rotations and playing times, from what we will see in big games. I doubt we will see 28 points by the bench against top teams.

Leaving out Louisville, against the next 5 top teams UConn has faced,
Blanca is averaging 10 ppg
Jana/AZ/K9 are averaging a combined 7 ppg
Vowelguy, you present some valid points, and I completely agree with everything in your first paragraph.

That said, I am not sure how that addresses uconnfan88's contention that I was responding to.

Is it your position that if UConn and Louisville were to meet again, UConn would present a bench component that would be somewhat similarly effective (at least scoring wise) to what the Cardinals faced in that first game? That is the inference I draw from your supporting figures. Suffice to say, if that is your position, I would disagree.

Or, are you just speaking in general terms about the bench's productivity against "top teams" as well as the pragmatism of not using "all-game stats", and are simply using my response to uconnfan88 as an opportunity to reiterate? To me, that would be an interesting - albeit separate - discussion.

FWIW, I also try to analyze UConn's performance (individual stats, team stats, MOV, score by quarters, etc) through different filters (home vs away vs neutral court; Big East vs P4 vs Top 25 opponents; Nov/Dec vs Jan/Feb vs Mar time periods, to name a few). The more folks can parse data into like groups the more relevant insight they can glean to inform discussions.
 
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Vowelguy, you present some valid points, and I completely agree with everything in your first paragraph.

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Or, are you just speaking in general terms about the bench's productivity against "top teams" as well as the pragmatism of not using "all-game stats", and are simply using my response to uconnfan88 as an opportunity to reiterate? To me, that would be an interesting - albeit separate - discussion.
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Saw Louisville playing South Carolina, and there were a couple of kids playing well that I didn't remember. I checked the boxscore, and neither played very much against us. They'll be much different if we face them again.
I saw Louisville beat Tennessee at Barclay's and that was not that long after we played them and they were much improved already, with an emphasis on defense.
 
Here’s something to consider. UConn is also much improved from the time we played Louisville. 😎
Very true and that is why I don't think the Vols can handle our defense to begin with. Louisville full court pressed them and forced their bigs, who are very big, to handle the ball and that was curtains for them. Tennessee's PG is a freshman and I don't see her handling the two headed monster on defense at that position of KK and K9.
 
Here’s something to consider. UConn is also much improved from the time we played Louisville. 😎
Boneyarders were concerned about how UConn would guard Hildago. You can be sure ND fans were a lot more concerned about how ND would guard Strong, Fudd, and Blanca. Also, UConn has not played the top four teams in the rankings but, that is not by choice,
 
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