UConn - ND post game (merged)

[tchalla1]

I don’t know if anyone else noticed but late in the fourth quarter, Ash found herself guarding Gisela Sanchez in the paint. Sanchez gave Ash several sharp jabs with her elbow and due to the height difference, I think it caught Ash in a sensitive spot. FWIW, Ash jabbed back but she was outmatched.

Then Geno subs Ash out for Serah, who had a few words for Sanchez. Serah got a little spicy and I love it. The Huskies have each others’ backs

Great catch, Nan, I was reasonably sure that's why Sareh got into the tiff with the ND center, but the FOX announcers didn't mention it. I was sure that Serah's actions were because the ND center was roughhousing Ash...

 

[mhshuskies]

But if they get KK Bransford back in time, they could be the most dangerous 8-12 seeds in the tournament.

Ooh, might beat a 7 seed!

 

[Bone Dog]

Bone Dog, what do you mean by "She just seems to intent on succeeding to fail"? As an educator, I am stunned that you might think that there is something wrong with a team-focused player who continues to push her envelope and does not get discouraged whenever her efforts do not meet with intended success. She continues to play and grow inside the UConn system which is EXACTLY what she needs to be doing.

"Intent on succeeding to fail" sounds waaaaaay off-base. Please explain or clarify.

Typo on my part -- damn Otto-correct -- should have been "too intent." I was trying to say that she is really intense and aiming very high. Kids like her tend to achieve great things, given time..

 

[Bone Dog]

Great catch, Nan, I was reasonably sure that's why Sareh got into the tiff with the ND center, but the FOX announcers didn't mention it. I was sure that Serah's actions were because the ND center was roughhousing Ash...

I rewatched the second half to try to understand what was going on. It looked like Sanchez had been grabbing Serah earlier in the game on a couple different possessions and got whistled for it once. Somewhat later she elbowed Ash, and there was a bit of grabbing going on there too, which seemed odd to me. Why would the offensive player want to grab the defensive player? Ash smacked her hand away a couple times, and then the elbow happened. Then Serah came back into the game and the final confrontation happened, also based on more grabby fouling. I don't know what was said between them, but Serah looked pretty pissed, and Sanchez seems to be a volatile personality, much more so than Serah. Maybe she was on edge because they were losing so badly at that point.

I couldn't follow what the refs decided. The announcers seemed to suggest a double technical but the camera work didn't clarify it as it happened so fast. I have a feeling Maj Forsberg wanted a quick resolution rather than an extended video review, which was probably wise. Then Serah shot free throws.

 

[Gus Mahler]

Great catch, Nan, I was reasonably sure that's why Sareh got into the tiff with the ND center, but the FOX announcers didn't mention it. I was sure that Serah's actions were because the ND center was roughhousing Ash...

The announcers didn't mention it because they were too busy conversing as though they were waiting for their order to arrive.

 

[Centerstream]

I rewatched the second half to try to understand what was going on. It looked like Sanchez had been grabbing Serah earlier in the game on a couple different possessions and got whistled for it once. Somewhat later she elbowed Ash, and there was a bit of grabbing going on there too, which seemed odd to me. Why would the offensive player want to grab the defensive player? Ash smacked her hand away a couple times, and then the elbow happened. Then Serah came back into the game and the final confrontation happened, also based on more grabby fouling. I don't know what was said between them, but Serah looked pretty pissed, and Sanchez seems to be a volatile personality, much more so than Serah. Maybe she was on edge because they were losing so badly at that point.

I couldn't follow what the refs decided. The announcers seemed to suggest a double technical but the camera work didn't clarify it as it happened so fast. I have a feeling Maj Forsberg wanted a quick resolution rather than an extended video review, which was probably wise. Then Serah shot free throws.

According to the Play By Play and what I observed when I watched the game, Sanchez was called for a foul before the scuffle. Serah was awarded two FTs. They both were given technicals, no FTs awarded, because of the scuffle.

 

[Gael]

They are not a bad team, like a Butler or BC. They are a rival team, so it's great to beat them, badly. But they are not that good this year.

Some of the best teams in WBB are getting embarrassed by the Huskies. That doesn’t mean they are not good.

I didn't read @meyers7 as saying Notre Dame is not good because UConn beat them. He said they are not currently ranked and that they are not as good as usual this year. Both of those claims are facts . . . not opinions . . . in my opinion.

However, I agree that "good" in the abstract is semantically subjective. Any team with more wins than losses could be considered good, which means there are about 180 good teams in DI WCBB. Not worth quibbling about.

I think the fighting issue is whether UConn's large MOV over Notre Dame is evidence that UConn will be an unstoppable juggernaut against the current AP 2-6 or whether it is repetitive non-evidence of that outcome. How much evidentiary weight does or should the Notre Dame MOV carry regarding the issue?

 

[oldude]

I didn't read @meyers7 as saying Notre Dame is not good because UConn beat them. He said they are not currently ranked and that they are not as good as usual this year. Both of those claims are facts . . . not opinions . . . in my opinion.

However, I agree that "good" in the abstract is semantically subjective. Any team with more wins than losses could be considered good, which means there are about 180 good teams in DI WCBB. Not worth quibbling about.

I think the fighting issue is whether UConn's large MOV over Notre Dame is evidence that UConn will be an unstoppable juggernaut against the current AP 2-6 or whether it is repetitive non-evidence of that outcome. How much evidentiary weight does or should the Notre Dame MOV carry regarding the issue?

Gael, I am not going to repost the entire back and forth between myself and Meyers, which is several posts long. But the specific comment that I first responded to was, “ND is NOT a good team.” Post #153

 

[RedStickHusky]

See Ayanna walking up for "the stare" at the end of this clip.

 

[RedStickHusky]

Speaking of the bench, I very much appreciate Jana's enthusiasm and encouragement. She's a good teammate.

I noticed that too. Still, I want to see her back on the court. The longer she's out, the longer it'll take to bring her back.

 

[DefenseBB]

Speaking of the bench, I very much appreciate Jana's enthusiasm and encouragement. She's a good teammate.

What many don’t see during the time outs is Jana is standing directly behind and intently bent looking over him as he charts out the scheme.she is so focused on what he is saying to the players you just know she is a coaches kid. The others mostly pay attention but look around with half-hearted interest. I am rooting for her to get back on the court and show that renewed effort she was demonstrating before this recent concussion.