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UConn in the 2018 MLB Draft

From the New London Day:

Waterford's Burrows drafted by Pirates in 11th round

>>Burrows, 18, will sit down with his parents, Tom and Kristen, and sort out both options during still-to-be scheduled meetings with scout Eddie Charles, Pittsburgh's Northeast Supervisor, and UConn head coach Jim Penders. He accepted congratulations from both on Wednesday.

"We're just going to see how these two meetings go," Burrows said. "I know one is going to be mad and I realize I can't please both. I also think they're going to be happy for me either way because they're both good people."<<
 


“At the beginning of the week, I talked to Pat’s mom and she said that he had decided to bypass the pros if he was chosen and go to UConn as he’d planned.

Today, Wednesday, June 6, The New York Yankees picked Patrick Winkel (C) Amity High School, in the draft.

Pat will play for the UConn Huskies and continue his education as planned.”
 
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One of the bigger prospect guys who follows the MLB Draft on the Pirates draft. Let's hope it's not Burrows

Kiley McDaniel: Fits what their types have been in recent years. Toolsy hitter with exit velo in Swaggerty. Projection arms that meet all the projection criteria in Ashcraft and Hoglund. Big SS in Kaiser, like Mercer and Cole Tucker. I think they’ll have enough to make a run at someone after the 10th
 
This New London Day article about the UConn coaches roadshow has Coach Penders talking about Mike Burrows getting drafted.

UConn Coaches Road Show brings out passionate fans, starts new tradition

>>Penders is thrilled for Waterford pitcher Mike Burrows who was drafted in the 11th round of the Major League Baseball amateur draft by the Pittsburgh Pirates. Burrows, who committed to UConn, has a decision to make about his future.

"We had a quick conversation via text yesterday and just congratulating him on the phone," Penders said. "How many kids get an opportunity to hear their name called in the draft? I'm just very happy for him. He's going to have a choice."<<
 
dbmill said:
This New London Day article about the UConn coaches roadshow has Coach Penders talking about Mike Burrows getting drafted.

UConn Coaches Road Show brings out passionate fans, starts new tradition

>>Penders is thrilled for Waterford pitcher Mike Burrows who was drafted in the 11th round of the Major League Baseball amateur draft by the Pittsburgh Pirates. Burrows, who committed to UConn, has a decision to make about his future.

"We had a quick conversation via text yesterday and just congratulating him on the phone," Penders said. "How many kids get an opportunity to hear their name called in the draft? I'm just very happy for him. He's going to have a choice."<<
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That's the right attitude to have. Selfishly it would be nice if he spent three years in Storrs , but we will be fine either way. We had the same situation with Marvin Gorgas a few years ago and we have done fine without him. It's a good problem to have recruits that are taken enough to have the opportunity to go pro right out of high school.
 
BaseballDog said:
That's the right attitude to have. Selfishly it would be nice if he spent three years in Storrs , but we will be fine either way. We had the same situation with Marvin Gorgas a few years ago and we have done fine without him. It's a good problem to have recruits that are taken enough to have the opportunity to go pro right out of high school.
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You literally took the words right out of my mouth. There have been a few others that went pro instead of ending up in Storrs. Tom Milone was another one. I was going to write something similar in the event that Mike Burrows decides to go pro, right down to the idea that it is good for the program to have recruits decide to go pro. It tells me that the coaching staff is recruiting some very talented players. Some make it to UConn and a few go pro instead.
 
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More from the New London Day and Coach Penders upcoming meeting with the Burrows family:

UConn's Penders ready to make his pitch to Burrows

>>"It's great to have choices in life," Penders said on Thursday night at the UConn Huskies Coaches Road Show in Stamford. "We're going to go down and visit him and his family in the house and just go over some of the data points that we have. It's not my position or college baseball's position. We're just going to show him some of the facts."<<

>>"We do a better job of developing major leaguers than the minor leagues do," Penders said, referring to college baseball.<<

>>Penders points out that in the last three decades only four players from Connecticut have successfully bypassed college and reached the major leagues.<<

>>"I think 64 percent of major league baseball players have attended at least some college. Then you take the international free agents out of that mix. There's very few guys that make it out of high school.<<
 
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Heard a rumor that Pittsburg is going to Offer Burrows between 500,000 and 600,000.
 
Wordbomar said:
Heard a rumor that Pittsburg is going to Offer Burrows between 500,000 and 600,000.
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I’d be very surprised if it is close to this. Their pool is $10.4M. Unless they’re getting some phenomenal deals on the front end of their draft, that’s a large portion of their pool to cough up for a 11th rounder. Considering their was discussions about him in the 5th where the slot was $350,000, I doubt the Pirates are willing to stray too far from that number as that’s probably the number they’re comfortable with.

If I were to guess, that is the number Burrows would want to sign.
 
Baseballguy said:
I’d be very surprised if it is close to this. Their pool is $10.4M. Unless they’re getting some phenomenal deals on the front end of their draft, that’s a large portion of their pool to cough up for a 11th rounder. Considering their was discussions about him in the 5th where the slot was $350,000, I doubt the Pirates are willing to stray too far from that number as that’s probably the number they’re comfortable with.

If I were to guess, that is the number Burrows would want to sign.
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No idea on the accuracy of the number, but they purposely took college guys in rounds 3-10 to sign below slot for this exact scenario
 
navery12 said:
No idea on the accuracy of the number, but they purposely took college guys in rounds 3-10 to sign below slot for this exact scenario
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Explain this to me. The theory is they took players higher than they had to to save money, so that they could take a player lower than they wanted him put pay him more money?

I'm not an expert on the baseball draft, but does that make sense?
 
businesslawyer said:
Explain this to me. The theory is they took players higher than they had to to save money, so that they could take a player lower than they wanted him put pay him more money?

I'm not an expert on the baseball draft, but does that make sense?
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Not much about the baseball draft actually does make sense.

But yes, what you said does happen.
 
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dbmill said:
More from the New London Day and Coach Penders upcoming meeting with the Burrows family:

UConn's Penders ready to make his pitch to Burrows

>>"It's great to have choices in life," Penders said on Thursday night at the UConn Huskies Coaches Road Show in Stamford. "We're going to go down and visit him and his family in the house and just go over some of the data points that we have. It's not my position or college baseball's position. We're just going to show him some of the facts."<<

>>"We do a better job of developing major leaguers than the minor leagues do," Penders said, referring to college baseball.<<

>>Penders points out that in the last three decades only four players from Connecticut have successfully bypassed college and reached the major leagues.<<

>>"I think 64 percent of major league baseball players have attended at least some college. Then you take the international free agents out of that mix. There's very few guys that make it out of high school.<<
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Perfect approach...
 
huskymedic said:
Perfect approach...
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Agreed. I've seen this sort of article on Penders and his minors vs. college information before. This is hardly the first time he has presented this sort of information to recruits who have been drafted.
 
businesslawyer said:
Explain this to me. The theory is they took players higher than they had to to save money, so that they could take a player lower than they wanted him put pay him more money?

I'm not an expert on the baseball draft, but does that make sense?
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With baseball there's even less consensus than other leagues. This is basically the best summary I've seen:

Kiley McDaniel: I’ve said this a bunch of times but concept of industry consensus rankings doesn’t apply to any one team. Some teams have multiple guys that went day one in the 5th round on their board. They have some guy that went 20th ranked 5th on their board, etc. With every board looking that different, taking the below slot option is more taking the cheap guy between three guys you can’t separate.

Basically you take your #2 and #5 guy instead of ending up with #1 and #50 when there's a small gap between 1 and 2
 
navery12 said:
With baseball there's even less consensus than other leagues. This is basically the best summary I've seen:

Kiley McDaniel: I’ve said this a bunch of times but concept of industry consensus rankings doesn’t apply to any one team. Some teams have multiple guys that went day one in the 5th round on their board. They have some guy that went 20th ranked 5th on their board, etc. With every board looking that different, taking the below slot option is more taking the cheap guy between three guys you can’t separate.

Basically you take your #2 and #5 guy instead of ending up with #1 and #50 when there's a small gap between 1 and 2
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A lot of it also has to do with the credibility of the scouts in each region.

You have to be able to sell the Scouting Director and GM etc on your guys.
 
the Q said:
A lot of it also has to do with the credibility of the scouts in each region.

You have to be able to sell the Scouting Director and GM etc on your guys.
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Absolutely, that's a big factor. Another big one, particularly with northeast prospects is weather. If the weather and schedule don't line up, scouts may only get to see some of those guys once or twice which really skews a scouting report. I think it was Mike Trout who had a lot of bad weather his senior year and there were some teams who didn't see him much
 
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navery12 said:
Absolutely, that's a big factor. Another big one, particularly with northeast prospects is weather. If the weather and schedule don't line up, scouts may only get to see some of those guys once or twice which really skews a scouting report. I think it was Mike Trout who had a lot of bad weather his senior year and there were some teams who didn't see him much
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Plus guys Like Chris Lubanski burned teams in the past. It’s just really hard to evaluate northeast hs hitters because the conception is just abysmal compared to most southern states. My agency loved trout when we saw him in Minnesota (I think it was Minnesota).

Funny, I was taking to my old business partner, we liked a lot of guys who ended up sucking, but we were ahead of the game on guys too. Scouting is just really hard.
 
My wife tells me that Mike Burrow's father will be a guest tonight on a sports talk show that will precede the Connecticut Tigers game tonight at 6pm on WICH-AM 1310 in Norwich.
 
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