Tyler Dorsey (Committed to Oregon)

[Stainmaster]

I'm not trashing them, I'm trashing Self.

Fair enough.

 

[Fishy]

We're out with Newman and Dorsey.

I do not think we're going to get a visit from Eubanks, either.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

We're out with Newman and Dorsey. I do not think we're going to get a visit from Eubanks, either.

Scared off by the competition, no doubt.

 

[Fishy]

Scared off by the competition, no doubt.

That's what people tell me.

Just no playing time available for a guy who can handle and shoot the ball.

 

[husky99]

We're out with Newman and Dorsey.

I do not think we're going to get a visit from Eubanks, either.

Starting to hear the same..

 

[Matrim55]

Starting to hear the same..

Bummer.

Who does that leave us with for backcourt targets? Curtis Cobb or a decommit?

 

[husky99]

Bummer.

Who does that leave us with for backcourt targets? Curtis Cobb or a decommit?

I think we wait for coaches to be fired or 2016

 

[imno1]

Boy 2016 has got to be a big recruiting year for us. I'm finally siding with those of you who think we need a closer on staff. And maybe some online self study courses.

 

[mauconnfan]

Boy 2016 has got to be a big recruiting year for us. I'm finally siding with those of you who think we need a closer on staff. And maybe some online self study courses.

Closer and the conference! I agree I thought people were over evaluating the situation and now, I'm not so sure.

 

[husky99]

I wish we hired the Ast from zona. He has great ny and nj connections

 

[Woodson]

I wish we hired the Ast from zona. He has great ny and nj connections

Book Richardson I assume? They've obviously been killing it at Arizona.
What would it take to get him out of there, a bump up to head seat somewhere or is he a career assistant?

 

[Chief00]

When your head coach is your beginning and ending recruiting guy - you have a problem. It's nice to have a UConn tradition in the coaching staff but we have overkill! Just like in a company you need to go outside sometimes to get new ideas / perspectives and talent.

 

[superjohn]

We do need a big time recruiter, if our conference situation wasn't what it is it wouldn't be so necessary but we need one badly. I suspect Ollie realizes this too and it will be dealt with.

 

[Gurleyman]

When your head coach is your beginning and ending recruiting guy - you have a problem. It's nice to have a UConn tradition in the coaching staff but we have overkill! Just like in a company you need to go outside sometimes to get new ideas / perspectives and talent.

Hobbs was the lead recruiter for Rip, KEA, Caron, etc. on his first go round. Then he had some success as a head coach (unlike Slice, for example). I have a hard time believing he's not capable of making a recruiting visit any more.

We are really in our first year of recruiting right now with Ollie as an established head coach. Before we were asking recruits to take a leap of faith that he'd be able to take the reins. A little more patience is needed.

Going outside for an assistant right now would mean firing someone (and Miller isn't a recruiter so that wouldn't do much if you have your eyes on him). Companies don't have NCAA restrictions getting in the way of hiring "consultants".

 

[UCweCONN]

The sad truth is most high school kids don't really care about winning National Championships. They would rather go somewhere where they can fast track to the NBA or have a blast. Winning is a secondary benefit. They don't want to hear coaches talk about "team" or learning from upperclassmen. This is the iPhone instant gratification generation. That's the only thing that I can find to explain our lack of recruiting success after winning national championships.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

The sad truth is most high school kids don't really care about winning National Championships. They would rather go somewhere where they can fast track to the NBA or have a blast. Winning is a secondary benefit. They don't want to hear coaches talk about "team" or learning from upperclassmen.

This is a nice rationalization that I hear repeated on here quite a bit but I think it's 100% nonsense.

How about we play in an absolutely moribund conference and/or don't have an ace recruiter on staff?

 

[BearJWS]

The sad truth is most high school kids don't really care about winning National Championships. They would rather go somewhere where they can fast track to the NBA or have a blast. Winning is a secondary benefit. They don't want to hear coaches talk about "team" or learning from upperclassmen. This is the iPhone instant gratification generation. That's the only thing that I can find to explain our lack of recruiting success after winning national championships.

http://kentuckysportsradio.com/main/calipari-tells-malik-newman-drake-may-be-at-big-blue-madness/

Per Malik Newman: “(Calipari) said Drake might come this year,” Newman said. “That would be a really good event to go to. It really lets me know what they’re working with and that (Kentucky) has a lot of connections.”

Who have we had? Not that I want UConn to do anything like this....

 

[chapwilvaug72]

Any recruit that watches current rendition of sledteam would run to the hills to get far away. The brand of ball is the farthest thing away from having fun. It is an epic struggle with a bunch of no names who at best are single skilled and that is a stretch in some cases. Plus a coach who preaches defense defense defense defense and more defense via the steps, which is exactly what real talents disdain. They just want to bury you in an avalanche and to them defense means waiting around until the ball comes your way to continue the avalanche. When I played I just wanted to bury you with an onslaught of daggers and breaks and bank shots on the fly. Defense? Yeah, right. I sez to my coach:fungool; defense makes coaches rich; real playas are not into making coaches rich, sorry.

 

[AstarIsBorn31]

http://kentuckysportsradio.com/main/calipari-tells-malik-newman-drake-may-be-at-big-blue-madness/

Per Malik Newman: “(Calipari) said Drake might come this year,” Newman said. “That would be a really good event to go to. It really lets me know what they’re working with and that (Kentucky) has a lot of connections.”

Who have we had? Not that I want UConn to do anything like this....

If this is your talking point then I dont want you at Uconn... Your supposed to be the entertainment, your there too ball... If it was nicki minajjjj though...... I might understand

 

[upstater]

It really is hard to believe that coming off a 4th NC and Ollie and the team getting all that great pub that UConn only has a 2 man class at this point. I like Adams and Enoch a lot, but the coaches need to really up their game for next year. (I'm assuming, of course, that Diamond Stone ain't coming. If he commits, well that changes everything).

 

[8893]

It's so nice that we all have all the answers.

How about it's not an easy fix when:

• You've been hamstrung by targeted NCAA penalties and need to be more selective than ever, especially with marginal academic stuff and transfer risks that could tank the APR;
  
• You are trying to gain admission to the AAU to improve your conference affiliation;
  
• For two decades you've recruited from an increasing position of strength as the best program in the best conference, with an unequaled NCAA Championship and NBA track record during that time; and
  
• You are now the most academically rigorous university in a sh it conference, in the northeast corner of a Northeastern state that is known neither for its weather nor stimulating/cosmopolitan environment.

I'd love to hear of another university in our position that is killing it on the recruiting trail. The reason you don't is because there is no other university in our position. There is no one I know who disputes that UConn is--by far--the university that got screwed the worst in conference realignment. So it's easy to point out all the distinctions with other schools precisely for the reason that none of them is in the same position we are.

But, we are we are. We need to adapt. Recruiting is a different game than when JC first came here, and our expectations are much, much higher. But instead of being the kingpin in the kingpin conference, now we're yesterday's kingpin in a crappy conference with an uncertain future. And we have the highest academic standards in that conference. And we need to keep our APR and AAU accreditation on track. And we're not in New Orleans, Florida or Memphis, all of which might be more attractive to lots of kids--as may be VCU, which I acknowledge has done pretty well for itself (show me some rings and I'll start gushing...).

I'm not quite sure what makes someone an ace recruiter except results. And results are a lot easier to achieve when you are selling what people are buying. I mean, what difference do you think anyone else would be able to make given our circumstances?

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

Show of hands for cash payoffs? . . . . I'm in for a couple grand a year.

Anyone got contacts at a car dealership and/or high end escort agency?

Chap, not that cheap ____ that you like.

 

[AstarIsBorn31]

Quite frankly Jim needs to just get on the road and hard talk these recruits into joining good basketball and signing up to become man

 

[Fishy]

I think handing a recruit an envelope stuffed with cash is somewhat beneath us.

So we'll put the envelopes inside the iPad boxes and just have the escorts leave it on the kid's bed.

Kinda got a laugh out of this - I think we can be pretty sure that our assumed pursuit of an AAU invitation is not a current impediment to recruiting.

 

[8893]

Kinda got a laugh out of this - I think we can be pretty sure that our assumed pursuit of an AAU invitation is not a current impediment to recruiting.

I could be wrong but I'm assuming that some part of the accreditation process at least considers the academic rigor of the institution. My only point there is really just a continuation of the first point: i.e., we have higher academic standards than many of our competitors, we've already been targeted, and we're on the outside looking in with respect to both the AAU and a more preferred conference, so we have to try to keep our noses even cleaner.

For example, UNC's decades of paper classes will not threaten its ACC membership; but the same type of thing here would make us an even less attractive candidate for admission to both the AAU and a better conference.

I'm also assuming cash payments to recruits is not going to help.