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mauconnfan said:
If I had a choice of 2 bigs or Waters I'm with you, there is a dire need and he's not one, although a Top 40 kid would never be a bad thing. I guess I'm gun shy now though and bringing him and taking minutes form a kid like Vital, would he leave? I hope not but now for whatever reason it makes me think of these awful things. I love Vital, the kid he is the Husky he is and the gritty, plucky player he is. Want him to be part of this program for 4 years and a guy we lean on when the recruits come in. New Rodney!
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What? Why would Vital leave, he's the only shooting guard on the whole team. Also, if a kid doesn't want to compete for playing time he isn't gritty as you say.
 
superjohn said:
What? Why would Vital leave, he's the only shooting guard on the whole team. Also, if a kid doesn't want to compete for playing time he isn't gritty as you say.
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Never said he would but remember the kid played a lot of minutes last ear probably will see his average go down with just Alterique back, a little. They'd go down more if Waters were to come. I mean yeah if he comes it's great, good player need them. Just sayin'
 
navery12 said:
We need anyone who wants to come here, we're offering top 200 talent. If there's a top 40 recruit who wants to come here yes we need him.

And that's before considering that we'd be keeping a top CT kid home and in a guard-centric offense you can never have enough ball handlers
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Following the Tremont Waters saga. It is obvious that he wants to play on a big stage. With Duke and KU hopes fading fast, I think Tremont realizes that UConn is as big as its going to get
 
TheDude said:
Following the Tremont Waters saga. It is obvious that he wants to play on a big stage. With Duke and KU hopes fading fast, I think Tremont realizes that UConn is as big as its going to get
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NC State is a big stage.
 
I must have watched a different season than you guys did... Vital provides zero in the field of legitimate offensive returns, he adds some intangibles but that's about it. I think you are romanticizing him since he's the only one who stayed.

Having said that. You aren't seeing my point as far as Waters. Why would he come? I just don't see it happening. You can get your hopes up, but mine are low as can be. Good luck with all that. This place has gone down the tubes ever since November, what a bunch of grown men acting like high school girls.
 
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Ant One said:
I must have watched a different season than you guys did... Vital provides zero in the field of legitimate offensive returns, he adds some intangibles but that's about it. I think you are romanticizing him since he's the only one who stayed.

Having said that. You aren't seeing my point as far as Waters. Why would he come? I just don't see it happening. You can get your hopes up, but mine are low as can be. Good luck with all that. This place has gone down the tubes ever since November, what a bunch of grown men acting like high school girls.
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Vital had a very solid freshman season and got much better as the season went on.

Player A: FG%: 39.6%, 3P: 39%, 1.6 A/To
Player B: FG%: 38.0%, 3P: 28%, 2.0 A/To

Player A is Vital and Player B is JA. I know JA was playing hurt, but it was not stretch to say that Vital outplayed Adams in conference play and you say with no evidence that he "provides zero in the field of legitimate offensive returns". Well, you "provide zero in the field of" intelligent posts. We are all frustrated with this offseason but it's ironic that the one who calls everyone else out for acting like a high school girl...is the one complaining and venting like a spoiled child without any facts.
 
Take with a grain of SALT...... talk i am hearing is waters will announce between Sunday and Wednesday. Heard uconn is seriously in the running. The sense i get is if it goes past Wednesday then we are in trouble. I pieced this together from a few places.
 
Ant One said:
I must have watched a different season than you guys did... Vital provides zero in the field of legitimate offensive returns, he adds some intangibles but that's about it. I think you are romanticizing him since he's the only one who stayed.

Having said that. You aren't seeing my point as far as Waters. Why would he come? I just don't see it happening. You can get your hopes up, but mine are low as can be. Good luck with all that. This place has gone down the tubes ever since November, what a bunch of grown men acting like high school girls.
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Not sure what you would expect from a freshman who had a shot of not even seeing the court but through injury was asked to play a lot? I mean almost 40% from 3 after a horrendous start too, a ball hawk on D tough as nails all over the court (not always smart but got better during the season) and has leadership qualities. No one is saying by any means superstar hear but if you don't see a solid piece of a formula then you did watch a different season and I think you were the only one viewing.
 
We have a team with no big men and even our forwards could be limited. Waters becoming part of a 4 guard rotation gives him plenty to showcase his talent. We just lost 2 selfish players who were not concerned about team so we need players that are not scared of others' talent, and we have to have insurance for injury which almost always is a factor as the season progresses.
 
husky99 said:
Take with a grain of SALT. talk i am hearing is waters will announce between Sunday and Wednesday. Heard UConn is seriously in the running. The sense i get is if it goes past Wednesday then we are in trouble. I pieced this together from a few places.
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This thread will be at about 15 pages of car wash reports and cheif style jeopardy by then. Lol
 
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mauconnfan said:
Not sure what you would expect from a freshman who had a shot of not even seeing the court but through injury was asked to play a lot? I mean almost 40% from 3 after a horrendous start too, a ball hawk on D tough as nails all over the court (not always smart but got better during the season) and has leadership qualities. No one is saying by any means superstar hear but if you don't see a solid piece of a formula then you did watch a different season and I think you were the only one viewing.
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He certainly exceeded any expectation any of us had a right to have. He grew up quickly, and we needed him to. I don't think it means he's NBA bound or anything or the next Ben Gordon. I think it means he became a sophomore experience wise, about mid-season and is about a year ahead of where he normally would be. By the time he's a true junior, he's going to be a tremendous all around contributor.

With Waters, who is supposed to be a smart kid, I hope he understands that coming off the bench and getting 20 or so minutes a game as a freshman is pretty close to ideal for development. Adams is likely gone after 2017, and Waters and Gilbert would be an impressive tandem. These kids used to understand that this was the normal progression. Now they have these huge egos it seems, and they all want to be the star.
 
husky99 said:
Take with a grain of SALT. talk i am hearing is waters will announce between Sunday and Wednesday. Heard UConn is seriously in the running. The sense i get is if it goes past Wednesday then we are in trouble. I pieced this together from a few places.
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Agree with this.
 
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HuskyHawk said:
It's not 20 minutes. But it's something at least.
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Strangely, one of the kids on the team said he was still considering Georgetown. Don't know what to think of that. Grain of salt I guess.
 
Chief00 said:
Strangely, one of the kids on the team said he was still considering Georgetown. Don't know what to think of that. Grain of salt I guess.
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Must be a diversion to get us fans more excited, and obviously cover all options for your insider info
 
nychuskyfan said:
Vital had a very solid freshman season and got much better as the season went on.

Player A: FG%: 39.6%, 3P: 39%, 1.6 A/To
Player B: FG%: 38.0%, 3P: 28%, 2.0 A/To

Player A is Vital and Player B is JA. I know JA was playing hurt, but it was not stretch to say that Vital outplayed Adams in conference play and you say with no evidence that he "provides zero in the field of legitimate offensive returns". Well, you "provide zero in the field of" intelligent posts. We are all frustrated with this offseason but it's ironic that the one who calls everyone else out for acting like a high school girl...is the one complaining and venting like a spoiled child without any facts.
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I'm neither praising nor bashing Vital. But it is misleading to compare offensive stats for the offensive player who draws the double team, and the offensive player who is left open when the double team is drawn. When we won the championship in '14 Giffey was over 45% in 3 point shooting most of the year. That didn't necessarily mean he was a better shooter than Bazz or Boat. They took different types of shots.
 
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Ant One said:
I must have watched a different season than you guys did... Vital provides zero in the field of legitimate offensive returns, he adds some intangibles but that's about it. I think you are romanticizing him since he's the only one who stayed.

Having said that. You aren't seeing my point as far as Waters. Why would he come? I just don't see it happening. You can get your hopes up, but mine are low as can be. Good luck with all that. This place has gone down the tubes ever since November, what a bunch of grown men acting like high school girls.
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businesslawyer said:
I'm neither praising nor bashing Vital. But it is misleading to compare offensive stats for the offensive player who draws the double team, and the offensive player who is left open when the double team is drawn. When we won the championship in '14 Giffey was over 45% in 3 point shooting most of the year. That didn't necessarily mean he was a better shooter than Bazz or Boat. They took different types of shots.
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I dont think he was implying CV was better than Jalen. He was just using those numbers to combat the idea that CV provided little value on offense
 
The "recruiting clock" that these kids operate under mystifies me. As a top 40 player, this kid would be a great get. I am trying to understand the decision-making process he is going through. I know he wants minutes. All kids of that ranking want minutes. Beyond that, is he hoping that one of the big boys come through with a late offer? To that end, is Duke, Kansas, or some other major conference school interested to the point of maybe taking him as a contingency? Is he actually still considering Georgetown? I don't know how long a kid like this waits or what makes him wait.
 
Blaneylover said:
The "recruiting clock" that these kids operate under mystifies me. As a top 40 player, this kid would be a great get. I am trying to understand the decision-making process he is going through. I know he wants minutes. All kids of that ranking want minutes. Beyond that, is he hoping that one of the big boys come through with a late offer? To that end, is Duke, Kansas, or some other major conference school interested to the point of maybe taking him as a contingency? Is he actually still considering Georgetown? I don't know how long a kid like this waits or what makes him wait.
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I'm right there with you. I understand wanting to find the best fit. I get that. At this point, he's made his visits. Heard all the pitches. How long do you really need to decide? I guess I'm just wired differently. I'd want to make up my mind ASAP so I can focus on my freshman yr.
 
KembaStepback said:
I'm right there with you. I understand wanting to find the best fit. I get that. At this point, he's made his visits. Heard all the pitches. How long do you really need to decide? I guess I'm just wired differently. I'd want to make up my mind ASAP so I can focus on my freshman yr.
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Exactly. He knows who UCONN has on its roster. He knows his own abilities. I would assume that HCKO has explained to him his vision of next year's team and how he fits into what they are trying to accomplish. I tend to think he is waiting for an opportunity that may not come.
 
Blaneylover said:
Exactly. He knows who UConn has on its roster. He knows his own abilities. I would assume that HCKO has explained to him his vision of next year's team and how he fits into what they are trying to accomplish. I tend to think he is waiting for an opportunity that may not come.
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My pure guess is that he got released from Georgetown thinking a slot at an elite (KU/Duke/UK) school might open up due to transfers/draft entries. This is a kid who had a Kentucky hat on the table when he announced he was going to Georgetown. I still don't know if Kentucky even offered, I don't follow recruiting until forced to this spring. So he's running out the clock with a guaranteed place to land at Gtown or UConn, but still hoping for better. Either that, or no one but Western Kentucky will promise him a starter's job.
 
This is what I don't understand of wanting to be promised a starter's job. So if you get the promise, and there are kids sitting on the bench at the opening tip who are better than you, then what Einstein? You start and lose minutes as the season progresses? If you're at WKU, and you have to obtain a promise to start to know you'll be a starter, what does that say about your future pro-career? How do you look at your teammates if you're starting over someone better than you because of a promise?

I get not wanting to go to a school loaded with better players at your position. I don't get asking a coach whether you're going to start.
 
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