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Orangutan said:
Another day, another P5 transfer. Cooks was ranked #5(!) in her class by Hoopgurlz, only #69 by ProspectsNation. I think ND was tracking at one point. Doesn't seem like she quite met expectations.
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Could ND do a reverse Reimer here? Not sure what happened but I know ND was watching Cooks very early on like in her Freshmen year of HS.
 
CocoHusky said:
Could ND do a reverse Reimer here? Not sure what happened but I know ND was watching Cooks very early on like in her Freshmen year of HS.
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I don't know if it's a real possiblity, but I would like to see it. The stats don't jump off the page but she looked good in the NCAA tourney this year and she definitely has talent.

ND could use another front court player (even assuming she has to sit out a year) and things worked out pretty well for the last top-5 rated forward who transferred into ND.
 
Orangutan said:
Another day, another P5 transfer. Cooks was ranked #5(!) in her class by Hoopgurlz, only #69 by ProspectsNation. I think ND was tracking at one point. Doesn't seem like she quite met expectations.
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I saw someone on Twitter yesterday say that a top-5 recruit from 2017 was already in the portal. Since the HG top 5 from that year was Walker-Westbrook-Boothe-Patterson-Cooks, by process of elimination that left only Walker (!!) and Cooks as the only realistic possibilities. I'm really glad it was Cooks, whew.
 
If Westbrook decides to leave, 4 of the top-5 in Hoopgurlz 2017 rankings will have departed and 9 of the top-20 will no longer be at the school they signed with. Yikes.

2016 is similar, but all top-4 recruits stayed at the schools they signed with, but 10 of the top-20 aren’t at the school they signed with.
 
Just heard that Te'a Cooper is also transferring out of So Carolina.

Gamecocks’ leading scorer Te’a Cooper intends to transfer from South Carolina
South Carolina women’s basketball will lose its top scorer from 2018-2019 as senior guard Te’a Cooper has entered her name in the transfer portal an...
amp.thestate.com
 
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Man, what is going on at South Carolina? What is driving the existing starters to consider transferring? Is it the fear the incoming freshmen will take the starting positions?
 
It's no way that the recruiting class for USC is the driving force behind these transfers. In the games I watched last year I felt that KiKi was under utilized a lot. This Cooper news came out of left field. Wonder if it'll out to be anothe Cuevas Moore situation and she ends up staying or she goes home to UGA.
 
CocoHusky said:
Could ND do a reverse Reimer here? Not sure what happened but I know ND was watching Cooks very early on like in her Freshmen year of HS.
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Orangutan said:
I don't know if it's a real possiblity, but I would like to see it. The stats don't jump off the page but she looked good in the NCAA tourney this year and she definitely has talent.

ND could use another front court player (even assuming she has to sit out a year) and things worked out pretty well for the last top-5 rated forward who transferred into ND.
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I know she was battling some leg issues this season, which hindered her, but -- as Orangutan pointed out -- had a solid first two rounds in the NCAA's against Central Michigan (21 points, 5 rebounds) and Notre Dame (17 points, 12 rebounds).

In that game, I saw a player hitting jumpers out to the elbow and making some assertive, deft inside moves while rebounding well against ND's posts. If there's a "mutual interest," I'd hope MM and Niele Ivey get her down to the Bend in a hurry.

Interestingly enough, I reread her commitment story and she said it came down to Michigan and Michigan State, but that she was wondering if she should leave the state of Wisconsin. If she still wants to head back to cheese land, there are two other schools with ND connections that I'm sure would love to talk to her: Marquette, with newly named coach Megan Duffy; and, Jonathan Tsipis at Wisconsin.

Still not completely healthy, Sidney Cooks finding ways to give Michigan State women boost
 
Bernie said:
It's no way that the recruiting class for USC is the driving force behind these transfers. In the games I watched last year I felt that KiKi was under utilized a lot. This Cooper news came out of left field. Wonder if it'll out to be anothe Cuevas Moore situation and she ends up staying or she goes home to UGA.
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I agree. When I heard Williams was transferring out, my first thought was obviously playing time (and that very well may have been why for her), then for Jackson I thought she may be worried about losing her role to a freshman, then with Herbert-Harrigan something got fishy because she was very talented, then with Cooper - definitely something going on.
 
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Orangutan said:
Another day, another P5 transfer. Cooks was ranked #5(!) in her class by Hoopgurlz, only #69 by ProspectsNation. I think ND was tracking at one point. Doesn't seem like she quite met expectations.
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Not surprised. MSU hasn't done much with all the talent they have. Cooks is super talented and was under utilized. In the right program, she will flourish.
 
CocoHusky said:
Could ND do a reverse Reimer here? Not sure what happened but I know ND was watching Cooks very early on like in her Freshmen year of HS.
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is she that much better then the young bigs they already have?
 
Charliebball said:
is she that much better then the young bigs they already have?
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At this point, that's kind of an open question.
-Cooks was the fifth-rated prospect coming out of HS when she chose MSU. Basically, she's averaged 9.5 points for two seasons and apparently played through an injury this season. As I posted, her two best games this season were probably in the NCAA first two round games held at Notre Dame this year.

- Mik Vaughn is ND's purported post for next year and she's probably still coming back from the ACL she suffered in 2017. While she was able to play all year, expect her to work on her quickness and spring.
- Dani Patterson needs to get steady playing time, which was yo-yo'ed this year. MM was hard on her, but I look at that as a sign she cares for her.

Still, with quality bigs so hard to come by, giving a phone call certainly wouldn't hurt.
 
DaBball said:
I agree. When I heard Williams was transferring out, my first thought was obviously playing time (and that very well may have been why for her), then for Jackson I thought she may be worried about losing her role to a freshman, then with Herbert-Harrigan something got fishy because she was very talented, then with Cooper - definitely something going on.
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I will say that there is a bit of a break-the-ice thing with transferring. I think folks are generally inclined to stick things out, but once one person transfers, people start thinking "yeah, maybe I should do that too." Also if there is a stigma associated with sticking yourself out to leave, then it's easier to be the 2nd or 3rd person. And then if a bunch leave, then it's "well everyone I knew is gone." A similar dynamic can play out in the workplace.
 
So, correct me if I'm wrong, but this is SC's roster:

Harris G Sr - 31 mpg​
Henderson G So - 16 mpg​
Grissett F Jr - 12 mpg​
Saxton F So - 10 mpg​
Wesolek F So - 2 mpg​
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Cooke G #6​
Beal F #14​
Amihere F​
Boston C #11​

Harris, Henderson, Cooke, Beal, Boston starting with Grissett & Amihere as top subs?

Seems ripe for a grad transfer.
 
mass exodus out of North Carolina.... now South Carolina... my goodness ... is bad news out of Coastal Carolina, East Carolina, and Western Carolina be far behind? :eek:
 
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DaBball said:
I agree. When I heard Williams was transferring out, my first thought was obviously playing time (and that very well may have been why for her), then for Jackson I thought she may be worried about losing her role to a freshman, then with Herbert-Harrigan something got fishy because she was very talented, then with Cooper - definitely something going on.
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Crazy though here, but could Dawn be leaving South Carolina? Dawn's name has not been linked to any of the high profile openings in WCBB or the WNBA. You just don't have this many starters walking away together.
 
Charliebball said:
is she that much better then the young bigs they already have?
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I think she is better, maybe not "much" better. She definitely more experienced.
 
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CocoHusky said:
Crazy though here, but could Dawn be leaving South Carolina? Dawn's name has not been linked to any of the high profile openings in WCBB or the WNBA. You just don't have this many starters walking away together.
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All the high profile WCBB openings are filled.
 
CocoHusky said:
Crazy though here, but could Dawn be leaving South Carolina? Dawn's name has not been linked to any of the high profile openings in WCBB or the WNBA. You just don't have this many starters walking away together.
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What better job is out there? Now... and for the next 5,10, 15 years. I cant think of one right now. Texas?
 
vowelguy said:
All the high profile WCBB openings are filled.
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triaddukefan said:
What better job is out there? Now... and for the next 5,10, 15 years. I can't think of one right now. Texas?
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True but Sylvia is under investigation at UNC with only 1 year remaining on the contract. Sue Semrau at FSU is going into the last year of her contract. Joanne P. Mccallie contracts ends after the 2020-21 season. Karen Aston of Texas contract ends after the 2019-20 season.
 
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triaddukefan said:
mass exodus out of North Carolina.... now South Carolina... my goodness ... is bad news out of Coastal Carolina, East Carolina, and Western Carolina be far behind? :eek:
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I thought it was the initials USC that was to blame. Southern Cal and South Carolina both experiencing mass exoduses. But yeah something going on in the Carolinas.
 
CocoHusky said:
True but Sylvia is under investigation at UNC with only 1 year remaining on the contract. Sue Semrau at FSU is going into the last year of her contract. Joanne P. Mccallie contracts ends after the 2020-21 season. Karen Aston of Texas contract ends after the 2019-20 season.
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When Dawn was at UVA, their biggest rival was UNC. Ain't no way she's going there. And the others, why?
She just got a blockbuster class and she's coaching the national team.

And even if she were leaving , how would tte players know and it not get out?
 
vowelguy said:
When Dawn was at UVA, their biggest rival was UNC. Ain't no way she's going there. And the others, why?
She just got a blockbuster class and she's coaching the national team.
And even if she were leaving , how would tte players know and it not get out?
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I said mine was a "crazy" thought. Applying logic would only confuse me. :D
 
it wasn’t hard to see that the last two S. Carolina teams lacked the grit of previous squads.

I think it was clear that this group frustrated Staley based on how much playing time ping ponged.

BCM and Herbert Harrigan always seemed less than 100% committed.

I found the Te’a Cooper experience confusing. She was very inefficient and playing time fluctuated, she was super injury conscious, but she had also had some big games against big opponents.

I would have put all three on a list of players that affect team chemistry negatively.

But seems like this has probably diminished the ceiling next year pending grad transfers. But we will see.
 
Gamecockfan77 said:
it wasn’t hard to see that the last two S. Carolina teams lacked the grit of previous squads.

I think it was clear that this group frustrated Staley based on how much playing time ping ponged.

BCM and Herbert Harrigan always seemed less than 100% committed.

I found the Te’a Cooper experience confusing. She was very inefficient and playing time fluctuated, she was super injury conscious, but she had also had some big games against big opponents.

I would have put all three on a list of players that affect team chemistry negatively.

But seems like this has probably diminished the ceiling next year pending grad transfers. But we will see.
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Why does Staley get a free pass?
 
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