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Tom Izzo Out of Control

jibsey said:
MSU’s Henry is getting 0 salary but pulls down books and meals. Tom Izzo is slurping from a coaches gravy train with endorsements pulling down 3-5 million a year. The kids come and go and the coaches are the real stars. These coaches have turned what was once a bupkis job into nirvana. Sneaker contracts, speeches you name it. They’re also stars that the media is nice to and actually fawns over the. Ever hear these guys on radio interviews? They get treated like the Lord. They become all powerful and they get spoiled and sometimes dirty. Happens to a lot of them ala Pitino. Question, does Izzo have clean hands after that investigation? Wasn’t it touch and go that he would even survive? You can scream at your players but at least apologize for having to be restrained for attacking one physically. Just say it was wrong, I got carried away. He’s lucky he didn’t hit him or his job would be gone.
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Why should he apologize if he doesn’t mean it?
 
Robertelamin said:
Why should he apologize if he doesn’t mean it?
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I’ll tell you why. Because he should mean it and realize such. He was an A hole. And if that’s his daily coaching practice technique with 18 year old kids he needs to find other work, for the kids sake and so he doesn’t blow an artery. Just my opinion.
 
One of the hallmarks of being a man (or woman, but I am a man, so my perspective) is controlling your emotions. Yelling at a kid like JC did to Boat is bullying - period. JC did not have the skills to motivate without threatening and humiliating kids. I'm glad he won for UConn, but his behavior did not reflect well on him or UConn.
 
jibsey said:
MSU’s Henry is getting 0 salary but pulls down books and meals. Tom Izzo is slurping from a coaches gravy train with endorsements pulling down 3-5 million a year. The kids come and go and the coaches are the real stars. These coaches have turned what was once a bupkis job into nirvana. Sneaker contracts, speeches you name it. They’re also stars that the media is nice to and actually fawns over the. Ever hear these guys on radio interviews? They get treated like the Lord. They become all powerful and they get spoiled and sometimes dirty. Happens to a lot of them ala Pitino. Question, does Izzo have clean hands after that investigation? Wasn’t it touch and go that he would even survive? You can scream at your players but at least apologize for having to be restrained for attacking one physically. Just say it was wrong, I got carried away. He’s lucky he didn’t hit him or his job would be gone.
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There's a lot to unwrap here. I'd like one subscription to your newsletter please.
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
Lot of tough guys and high school heroes in this thread. Watch an Izzo press conference one time. Guy’s the biggest snowflake there is. Thank god Cassius Winston was there to be the adult.
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Yep, it's a tough guy thing. Oh thank god Cassius was there, it might be the only thing keeping Aaron Henry alive.
 
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Griffman said:
After reading and hearing about it on the radio, I don't know what all the fuss is about. He is holding players to a high standard like he holds himself to a high standard....and for those who say he had to be held back by another player is nonsense. A player decided on his own to interject and be the peacemaker. That player should mind his own business. Izzo wasn't going to hurt the player. Another overblown media story...
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I don't think that player was in the wrong neither was Izzo in the wrong there it's a natural reflex to put your hands up when there is tension, and he's in the huddle with them so it very much is his business. Sometimes you do lose control of your emotions and you do need someone to hold you back sheet happens.
 
jibsey said:
MSU’s Henry is getting 0 salary but pulls down books and meals. Tom Izzo is slurping from a coaches gravy train with endorsements pulling down 3-5 million a year. The kids come and go and the coaches are the real stars. These coaches have turned what was once a bupkis job into nirvana. Sneaker contracts, speeches you name it. They’re also stars that the media is nice to and actually fawns over the. Ever hear these guys on radio interviews? They get treated like the Lord. They become all powerful and they get spoiled and sometimes dirty. Happens to a lot of them ala Pitino. Question, does Izzo have clean hands after that investigation? Wasn’t it touch and go that he would even survive? You can scream at your players but at least apologize for having to be restrained for attacking one physically. Just say it was wrong, I got carried away. He’s lucky he didn’t hit him or his job would be gone.
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Scoe said:
I don't think that player was in the wrong neither was Izzo in the wrong there it's a natural reflex to put your hands up when there is tension, and he's in the huddle with them so it very much is his business. Sometimes you do lose control of your emotions and you do need someone to hold you back sheet happens.
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I hear ya on this. I still think it's not his place but his natural reaction was to intervene and make peace so kudos to him. I guess my point was more that Izzo wasn't going to put his hands on the kid but because the other one stepped in it created a bigger story than it really should be.
 
You don't know that. Maybe if somebody stepped in front of Neil Reed, Bobby Knight would still be coaching.
 
superjohn said:
Yep, it's a tough guy thing. Oh thank god Cassius was there, it might be the only thing keeping Aaron Henry alive.
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AntG168 said:
The hypocrisy in this thread is pure comedy. Calhoun disciples being triggered by this is odd.
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I think you can be a huge fan of Calhoun and still find some of his antics embarrassing. Those two are not mutually exclusive.

And, to me, there's a difference between screaming at a kid and acting unhinged and having to be restrained by your players like Izzo was yesterday. Plus I just think Izzo's a phony clown, has done himself no favors in connection with various and sundry recent MSU investigations, and is a thin-skinned bully with the media. He can get after 18 year olds with impunity but when some nerd with a tape recorder asks him a question he doesn't like he melts down.

And the idea that he's going to lecture some media member about "accountability" is a damn joke, given what we know now about various aspects of the MSU athletic department - including the basketball program.
 
Gotta love a fan base that sat through decades of Calhoun and Gino being mad at Tom Izzo. What bunch of AH's.

This coming off a year of watching Dan Hurley be alive next to a basketball court.

And 'went after him' and 'restrained' are so dramatically over the top. Do you guys normally advertise yourselves as being this far down the food chain or is this a new thing?
 
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jibsey said:
MSU’s Henry is getting 0 salary but pulls down books and meals. Tom Izzo is slurping from a coaches gravy train with endorsements pulling down 3-5 million a year. The kids come and go and the coaches are the real stars. These coaches have turned what was once a bupkis job into nirvana. Sneaker contracts, speeches you name it. They’re also stars that the media is nice to and actually fawns over the. Ever hear these guys on radio interviews? They get treated like the Lord. They become all powerful and they get spoiled and sometimes dirty. Happens to a lot of them ala Pitino. Question, does Izzo have clean hands after that investigation? Wasn’t it touch and go that he would even survive? You can scream at your players but at least apologize for having to be restrained for attacking one physically. Just say it was wrong, I got carried away. He’s lucky he didn’t hit him or his job would be gone.
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“Attacking one physically” lol wow
 
Winston saves a Norman Dale moment.
 
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I have always been bored by the -"toughen up, you big baby argument". MSU has over 50,000 students. Faculty/staff around 1500, maybe 2K total employees. Imagine a physics professor getting up in a students face screaming and frothing at a mental mistake. Imagine the debate team coach blowing up at a kid. Imagine any "employee" acting that way towards a subordinate. I wish so badly my boss would go off on me like that. I wish one of my kids teachers did something like that. I would not praise the coach or teacher in any way. Please stop pretending this is acceptable, whether it is JC, Izzo, The guy at Alabama always going off on the press, etc, etc, etc. He is a bully and a punk. And yeah, JC was a bully. So now let's here some cute anecdote about what a big teddy bear he is in real life.
 
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