To all those predicting our demise.

[HuskiesAllDay]

It’s over the top knee jerk reactionism which at minimum should be reserved for end of this season.

Maybe.

But that isn’t what you said. You said people doing that are rooting for us to lose. It’s quite literally the exact opposite.

Wouldn’t call it knee jerk or reactionary seeing as the awful performances have been going on for years now. Agree that it doesn’t need to happen after every game or during games that aren’t even over yet.

 

[John]

Let me tell you something about yourselves.



You aren't basketball geniuses. You are disingenuous hedgers. I see right through it.

You can look at a season start and find stuff wrong on a 6 and 2 young team. Sure. No problems there. The rest of us see it too. Let's discuss it.

But there are so many declarative "The seasons over, Fire Ollie posts" here. The way they are positioned makes the game here abundantly clear.

If we do in fact go in the toilet (and there is no way for anyone to know that now. Its a long season), you all can smugly sit here and say "Ollie needs to go Right now!" every time we lose a game. You feel good about a UConn loss, your position is made. (Even though its not ;you think it is).

But if they reel off some wins and actually get better as a team over the course of the season you will all be here reveling in the success of a young team getting better.

Its a win/win for you. You can feel like a genius in the teams misery (when applicable) to mitigate the hurt losing does to your oh so fragile psyches. And a win, hell ,is a win (because youre supposedly a UConn fan; there should be some semblance of satisfaction out of one of those still....I hope)

But its not a win/win for the program you profess to love. They need our support. The Players absolutely deserve our support. And Kevin Ollie who brought us a National title 3.5 years ago and is not going anywhere for any time soon (for a myriad of reasons)deserves our support.

You can take these fire Ollie petitions (Marc Diamonte and the 43 mouth breathers, Im looking at you) and shove them straight up your Scalitos. You can place them next to the Fire Ollie threads and the Dan Hurley threads and every other piece of premature misery that gets manufactured here.

Im no Sunshiner ,(thanks ECU for the phrase!) . But I find our fans performance more disappointing than the teams at this point in the season.

But I think all you whiners are good mojo. I will very much enjoy the victory against Syracuse tomorrow and then enjoy making sure every one of you so down on us doesnt extract any enjoyment out of it. You dont deserve it.
Save the funerals and wakes for the end of the season when talking about a coaching change has a slight bit more realism. Now is the time to get down to MSG and root your 6-2 Huskies to a victory over the super pathetic Syracuse Orange.
If you hate 6-2 Kevin Ollie more than Syracuse, I question if you were ever even a UConn fan.

GO TELL IT TO YOUR NEW PIRATE FRIENDS BENEDICT ARNOLD.

 

[whaler11]

GO TELL IT TO YOUR NEW PIRATE FRIENDS BENEDICT ARNOLD.

I had no idea until today that ECU and Campbell was such a big rivalry.

I’m looking forward to it.


Haters vs Sunshiners. Pick your side.

 

[UC313]

The cesspool has forever tainted some of you people. Holy cow.

 

[JMick]

The cesspool has forever tainted some of you people. Holy cow.

Wouldn't have it any other way

 

[MSGSeven]

We won a tourney game and aac title in 16 too

A lot of these whiners are younger fans and they're spoiled. They weren't around for the beginnings and ascension of the program only for the peak glory years. If no one responds to these clowns they'll eventually go away.

 

[HuskiesAllDay]

So this is KO's record:

1. Comes in to take over a short handed team with no expectations at the last minute, facing a post-season ban, and keeps them in the last Big East title race all year long somehow.

2. Wins national championship. While folks are complaining about regular season losses.

3. Has letdown/rebuilding year after national championship. Like we had even under the great one in years like '10 and '12. Terrible year but hardly shocking or problematic.

4. Has perfectly acceptable year, with conference tournament championship and getting to round of 32 in Tourney.

5. Has terrible year where we lose 3 players -- potentially 2 of our best 3 players -- for basically entire season, and have to fight through other injuries and illnesses with a roster of 7 and a half players, 3.5 of whom could only handle the ball in the paint. Yes, we got off to an unprecedently bad start before the injuries hit -- blame KO for a bad November.

6. Are 6-2, which is where we expected to be before knowing the injuries we'd be fighting through.

If you lay that out as a record, and looked at someone elses's coach doing that, you would think people calling for his head are just dumb. So why would that not be the analysis here?

2016 is sort of a perfect reason for why ko should be Fired. It was a decent season (although i would argue we underachieved a bit).

But what used to be a down year for the program (rd 32 exit) is now something we would all consider a massive success. That kind of says all you need to know about where the program has gotten under ko.

 

[intlzncster]

A lot of these whiners are younger fans and they're spoiled. They weren't around for the beginnings and ascension of the program only for the peak glory years. If no one responds to these clowns they'll eventually go away.

Ooohhhhh my friend, you dearly, dearly, underestimate some of these posters. Think the lowly cockroach. I don't even have to mention names. They should roll of the tip of the tongue by now.

 

[mauconnfan]

Ooohhhhh my friend, you dearly, dearly, underestimate some of these posters. Think the lowly cockroach. I don't even have to mention names. They should roll of the tip of the tongue by now.

Leave me alone!

 

[MSGSeven]

2016 is sort of a perfect reason for why ko should be Fired. It was a decent season (although i would argue we underachieved a bit).

But what used to be a down year for the program (rd 32 exit) is now something we would all consider a massive success. That kind of says all you need to know about where the program has gotten under ko.

No nice try though. They were a new team with two transfers all thrown together. Brimah breaking his finger hurt them during regular season which coincided with Rodney's shooting slump. Gibbs was not a point guard he was a shooting guard playing point guard and his offensive game was very limited. My only knock on Ollie that season was he should've made Jalen point guard from Day 1. If he did Jalen might've developed quicker and maybe they win a few more ball games and get in better position for NCAAT. But all in all it was a successful basketball season.

 

[intlzncster]

But what used to be a down year for the program (rd 32 exit) is now something we would all consider a massive success. That kind of says all you need to know about where the program has gotten under ko.

I don't think anyone considers it a massive success--but it is a success (includes an AAC tournament title).

With no HOF coach--arguably in the conversation for GOAT-- and the change in conference, expectations have to be different. I'm not sure what they should be. Not where they are at of course.

I mean, the really down years under JC were where they went to the NIT. There were multiple 1st/2nd rd NCAA exits too--not great years, but not total failures either.

 

[Walker11]

KO has a done a fine job on the court on first glance. There are extenuating circumstances that explain basically everything negative that has happened on the court.

The real concern stems from the people alluding to the fact that the culture is a trainwreck behind the scenes and that some players have lost faith in KO. I have no knowledge or connection but good posters have mentioned this and this is what startles me.

If by chance the talk is all much ado about nothing, KO has shown that he can coach a great defense and recruit well and that is really all we should be asking for because that makes for an above average coach. He does admittedly run a garbage offense but he has also never had an effective offensive post player, which I expect us to see next year, and I am not sure if folks realize that most college teams run a garbage offense. I see people mentioning Cooley as a (pipe dream) replacement and it makes me wonder if they have ever seen the offensive sets the Friars display.

 

[Huskyforlife]

You complain about things before they happen? Your life partner is going to love that.

I'll be at the game. I'll get home around 3:00 in the morning. If they don't make it worth my time, I'll be pissed. But I won't be pissed before it happens.

I’m really complianing about the things that have already happened, and predicting what will happen next, based on those things. I’m actually not off the ollie train yet, believe it or not, I’ll be ecstatic if he finds a way to win this game, but I don’t expect we will.

 

[80shusky]

So this is KO's record:

1. Comes in to take over a short handed team with no expectations at the last minute, facing a post-season ban, and keeps them in the last Big East title race all year long somehow.

2. Wins national championship. While folks are complaining about regular season losses.

3. Has letdown/rebuilding year after national championship. Like we had even under the great one in years like '10 and '12. Terrible year but hardly shocking or problematic.

4. Has perfectly acceptable year, with conference tournament championship and getting to round of 32 in Tourney.

5. Has terrible year where we lose 3 players -- potentially 2 of our best 3 players -- for basically entire season, and have to fight through other injuries and illnesses with a roster of 7 and a half players, 3.5 of whom could only handle the ball in the paint. Yes, we got off to an unprecedently bad start before the injuries hit -- blame KO for a bad November.

6. Are 6-2, which is where we expected to be before knowing the injuries we'd be fighting through.

If you lay that out as a record, and looked at someone elses's coach doing that, you would think people calling for his head are just dumb. So why would that not be the analysis here?

Because..rational thought.

 

[shizzle787]

We won a tourney game and aac title in 16 too

Should have been a FF team that year. Way too talented of a team to be a 9 seed.

 

[80shusky]

Should have been a FF team that year. Way too talented of a team to be a 9 seed.

wut?

 

[Hankster]

Quality rant ADub.

'Thank you Chuck Norris' (Dodgeball)

 

[shizzle787]

wut?

Shonn Miller was arguably the most underrated power forward in the country that year. Jalen Adams was coming off the bench. Sterling Gibbs averaged 20 pts a game at a Big East school the year before he transferred. We had Daniel Hamilton as well, and Purvis and Brimah hadn't fallen off the ledge yet, and Omar Calhoun finally decided to play like he did his freshmen year. So yea, we should have done way better than the 2nd round.

 

[huskyinfl]

@businesslawyer I think that golden state vs bulls fits your question to a t.

I feel like our basketball program should be run like a top tier SEC Football program. Top 25 every year.

 

[MSGSeven]

Shonn Miller was arguably the most underrated power forward in the country that year. Jalen Adams was coming off the bench. Sterling Gibbs averaged 20 pts a game at a Big East school the year before he transferred. We had Daniel Hamilton as well, and Purvis and Brimah hadn't fallen off the ledge yet, and Omar Calhoun finally decided to play like he did his freshmen year. So yea, we should have done way better than the 2nd round.

Dude ur shot. I like Miller he had a good season but he couldn't even play with the bigs of Kansas. Gibbs did not average 20 points a game at Seton Hall and once again was not a point guard and was very limited offensively. I'm not even gonna touch the downfalls and limitations of Purvis, Brimah and Calhoun especially Calhoun WOW.

 

[RJScootin]

#FireRJScootin

#GoHuskies

Maybe you've missed the demise over the last three years..... UConn is s midmajor team under Ollie.

 

[shizzle787]

Dude ur shot. I like Miller he had a good season but he couldn't even play with the bigs of Kansas. Gibbs did not average 20 points a game at Seton Hall and once again was not a point guard and was very limited offensively. I'm not even gonna touch the downfalls and limitations of Purvis, Brimah and Calhoun especially Calhoun WOW.

Duh, it's Kansas and he was 6'6". The point is that we shouldn't have been a 9 seed facing Kansas in the second round.

 

[MSGSeven]

Duh, it's Kansas and he was 6'6". The point is that we shouldn't have been a 9 seed facing Kansas in the second round.

We were an 8 seed I believe the '14 team was a 7 seed that's the way it is the AAC gets no respect. They were in a position to get the upset and advance Kansas was better it happens. That was not a FF team didn't have the guards.

 

[shizzle787]

We were an 8 seed I believe the '14 team was a 7 seed that's the way it is the AAC gets no respect. They were in a position to get the upset and advance Kansas was better it happens. That was not a FF team didn't have the guards.

Sure, the AAC burned us but we finished 5th dude. 5th. In a league we should have won.

 

[Huskybass]

Shonn Miller was arguably the most underrated power forward in the country that year. Jalen Adams was coming off the bench. Sterling Gibbs averaged 20 pts a game at a Big East school the year before he transferred. We had Daniel Hamilton as well, and Purvis and Brimah hadn't fallen off the ledge yet, and Omar Calhoun finally decided to play like he did his freshmen year. So yea, we should have done way better than the 2nd round.

I get your point, but Gibbs averaged 16 as a Senior at Seton Hall, not 20. As others have said, no need to exaggerate the perceived or real shortcomings of the past 3 plus seasons.

 

[MSGSeven]

Sure, the AAC burned us but we finished 5th dude. 5th. In a league we should have won.

We did we won the tournament and yes got helped by SMU being banned but we beat them in Hartford during reg season. It wasn't a great year but it was a good year let it go. The '14 team finished 4th or 5th in AAC and didn't win conf tourney.

 

[Travelman6]

It is not even so much Uconn performing the way they are. That alone is no issue on its own because most teams not named Duke have down years. But performing this way in the AAC stings. Performing this way (last year) in the ACC or B10 would be much less of an issue. Chalk it up to bad luck. I also think it is terribly unfair that Uconn, as of 2017, is STILL unfairly relegated to the AAC compared to other teams that spend tons of time in the cellar in both major sports in the P5 like Rutgers and BC. Come on. Ollie would have much more success with Uconn in the P5, no doubt, (the same can be said for many coaches). Any way, my setting remains on cautiously optimistic. But I think I might upgrade to very cautious soon and hope I do not have to add a somewhat before the optimistic.

 

[gtcam]

So this is KO's record:

1. Comes in to take over a short handed team with no expectations at the last minute, facing a post-season ban, and keeps them in the last Big East title race all year long somehow.

2. Wins national championship. While folks are complaining about regular season losses.

3. Has letdown/rebuilding year after national championship. Like we had even under the great one in years like '10 and '12. Terrible year but hardly shocking or problematic.

4. Has perfectly acceptable year, with conference tournament championship and getting to round of 32 in Tourney.

5. Has terrible year where we lose 3 players -- potentially 2 of our best 3 players -- for basically entire season, and have to fight through other injuries and illnesses with a roster of 7 and a half players, 3.5 of whom could only handle the ball in the paint. Yes, we got off to an unprecedently bad start before the injuries hit -- blame KO for a bad November.

6. Are 6-2, which is where we expected to be before knowing the injuries we'd be fighting through.

If you lay that out as a record, and looked at someone elses's coach doing that, you would think people calling for his head are just dumb. So why would that not be the analysis here?

BizLaw - that's a great list and one that's been explained in bits and pieces numerous times
But save your time and energy - the people to whom you are replying to are going to continue and bash - it's ok
Misery loves company, I have decided to stay out the chats on my phone during games and am watching more from my seat- it's turned into a cesspool of people who probably never dribbled a ball competitively or coached at any level but profess HoF knowledge.
KO has his faults and if its bad enough I have no doubt the AD will handle it accordingly.
I don't care if folks sometimes criticize, I do on occasion, but why some come on to every thread and bash and jab - I don't get it - just look at this thread - the pattern is so evident from the usual folks.
Its' a free world and an open board (to some extent) so let it be..................................
What I do find funny is during the 2013-14 season, the same folks were bashing KO and some on the team when there were some ups and down BUT when Boat threw that ball in the air and the confetti was falling in red white and blue - the bashers were extolling superlatives upon KO and some of the other targets

Thanks August West for the opening thoughts - IMHO -it was overdue

 

[shizzle787]

We did we won the tournament and yes got helped by SMU being banned but we beat them in Hartford during reg season. It wasn't a great year but it was a good year let it go. The '14 team finished 4th or 5th in AAC and didn't win conf tourney.

Yea, in 2014 Louisville was in the conference and Cincy, Memphis, and SMU were all ranked. That was an entirely different conference.

 

[upstater]

2016 is sort of a perfect reason for why ko should be Fired. It was a decent season (although i would argue we underachieved a bit).

But what used to be a down year for the program (rd 32 exit) is now something we would all consider a massive success. That kind of says all you need to know about where the program has gotten under ko.

And this is why people believe Huskies fans are spoiled. First, he didn't say it was a massive success. He called it ACCEPTABLE. Big difference. But more than that, most good P5 basketball schools only have occasional runs in the NCAA tournament. It's just not a regular thing.