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The QB Issue

Who should start at QB going forward?

  • Evers

    Votes: 104 43.7%

  • Fagnano

    Votes: 78 32.8%

  • Mcdonald

    Votes: 3 1.3%

  • Welliver

    Votes: 53 22.3%
  • Total voters
    238
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ZooCougar said:
Not every FBS QB can throw it that far and drop it on a space the size of dinner plate in motion like some of our fans seem to expect.
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Certainly not many that have suited up for us.
 
ZooCougar said:
Not every FBS QB can throw it that far and drop it on a space the size of dinner plate in motion like some of our fans seem to expect.
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Well, if you believe that ball landed exactly where Fagnano intended to throw it when he released, good for you. I don't believe he can do that. He just threw a deep ball to the corner. Nothing wrong, but I think you're high if you think he was throwing to the dinner plate target.
 
He did really well against competition he is used to, though he had the advantage of FBS offense around him this time. This was his Al Bundy/Polk High moment.
 
ZooCougar said:
Worst throw ever according to the lunatics.
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Lol, has anyone actually said that, besides you just now. You are entertainingly predictable.
 
Chin Diesel said:
Well, if you believe that ball landed exactly where Fagnano intended to throw it when he released, good for you. I don't believe he can do that. He just threw a deep ball to the corner. Nothing wrong, but I think you're high if you think he was throwing to the dinner plate target.
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Oh no. I wasn't saying that was what he was doing. I'm saying he threw it to a corner. What an amusing interpretation of what I said. Turn you sarcasm detector on oil slick.
 
I think the QB decision is easy for the Duke game. We have now seen both Evers and Fagnano in game action and Evers looked like a rookie QB and Fagnano looked like a veteran in both the Maryland and Merrimack games. Add that Fagnano has the 5th highest QB rating in FBS, and Evers was 6/17 35.3%, 74 yards, with 0 TDs and 1 Int., and I don't see how Fagnano doesn't start. And, if a player has a breakout performance in a performance based culture how do you not start him and what message would not starting him send to the team?
 
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Kolumbo said:
Fagnano to Porter. Agreed, it was a great throw and a great catch starting at the 3:07 mark. Porter beat his defender and the safety was late getting over. Yes the receiver had to stop to catch the ball but given he caught it at the goal line, I'm not sure Fagnano wanted to throw it much deeper anyway. The throw was well over 50 yards as the crow flies. The defender was beat and the safety had no shot at all.

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Why does "Alex HONNING" bother me so much? There is no second "N" in Honig.
 
ZooCougar said:
Oh no. I wasn't saying that was what he was doing. I'm saying he threw it to a corner. What an amusing interpretation of what I said. Turn you sarcasm detector on oil slick.
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That's a helluva goal post move of changing it from putting it on a dinner plate sized location and switching to he threw it to a corner (I'll assume you mean the specific corner of the end zone and goal line and not just threw to a generic corner of the field).

Had you originally stated he threw it to the corner which gave the WR a chance to make a play against 2 DB's, that would have been an easy statement to agree with you. The hyperbole claiming he specifically threw it to a specific dinner plate sized location was a tale too tall to leave unchallenged.
 
Zoocougar reliving Fagnano's toss this whole week.

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noeynox said:
Safety was way late to rotate over. Fagnano either read that or got lucky, but the safety had no play on that.
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I think point is if that ball is thrown with a pair FBS DBs it’s likely picked. The “late” safety covers another step, is a few inches taller with a wider wing span and the ball is picked. It was unwise good throw against lesser competition. It is not dispositive as to whether JF plays or not. The question is can make better decisions with tighter windows and less time.
 
giddyup said:
I think point is if that ball is thrown with a pair FBS DBs it’s likely picked. The “late” safety covers another step, is a few inches taller with a wider wing span and the ball is picked. It was unwise good throw against lesser competition. It is not dispositive as to whether JF plays or not. The question is can make better decisions with tighter windows and less time.
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That is too many whatifs for me. That safety had NO PLAY. Maybe the kid doesn't make that throw based on what HE SAW on the play. Any criticism of THAT PLAY is the worst kind of nitpicking or preconceived bias against the kid.
 
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HuskiesFan1014 said:
Why does "Alex HONNING" bother me so much? There is no second "N" in Honig.
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Chin Diesel said:
That's a helluva goal post move of changing it from putting it on a dinner plate sized location and switching to he threw it to a corner (I'll assume you mean the specific corner of the end zone and goal line and not just threw to a generic corner of the field).

Had you originally stated he threw it to the corner which gave the WR a chance to make a play against 2 DB's, that would have been an easy statement to agree with you. The hyperbole claiming he specifically threw it to a specific dinner plate sized location was a tale too tall to leave unchallenged.
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I didn’t move a goal post.

I was making fun of the experts here who think that every FBS Qb can hit a spot the size of dinner plate at that range. You’re lost Oil Slick.
 
giddyup said:
I think point is if that ball is thrown with a pair FBS DBs it’s likely picked. The “late” safety covers another step, is a few inches taller with a wider wing span and the ball is picked. It was unwise good throw against lesser competition. It is not dispositive as to whether JF plays or not. The question is can make better decisions with tighter windows and less time.
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And we already pointed out that he probably wouldn’t make that throw against FBS DBs. This is kind of irrelevant.
 
noeynox said:
That is too many whatifs for me. That safety had NO PLAY. Maybe the kid doesn't make that throw based on what HE SAW on the play. Any criticism of THAT PLAY is the worst kind of nitpicking or preconceived bias against the kid.
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I got no bias. He deserves to start based on the job he did. End of story… for now.
 
ZooCougar said:
I didn’t move a goal post.

I was making fun of the experts here who think that every FBS Qb can hit a spot the size of dinner plate at that range. You’re lost Oil Slick
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Make up your mind.

Did he throw it on purpose to a spot the size of a dinner plate or did he throw it to the corner of the end zone? One target area is much larger than the other.

I've been consistent in what I've said. It was a good throw after deftly avoiding the rush and he put the ball in a spot for the UConn WR to make a play. And that's what the WR did. But the throw itself wasn't anything special. It was the dreaded 50/50 ball that UConn WR's have lost almost 100% of the time over the past decade. Conversely, the same 50/50 throw was completed against UConn almost 100% of the time over the last weekend. It was serendipitous moment us UConn fans haven't been able to see or enjoy recently.
 
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ZOOCONN said:
Dom Amore on twitter per Mora “Evers has been doing more in practice and he will start Saturday as long as he is healthy” interesting
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Evers must look unbelievable!!

If that is true either we are going to go 9-3 or Mora could lose the locker room. I'm in the "start JF" camp
 
Don't rule out the possibility of keeping Fagnano healthy for the winnable games. The G5 games will determine if we make a bowl or not. In previous year's It seemed to me our team got fired up for the wrong games, maybe a correction has been made.
 
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ZooCougar said:
That would be overthinking this.
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You might be right, but Fagnano is clearly a better QB and he won't be starting on Saturday. My theory is better than the Evers makes more money theory IMO.
 
AllHusky said:
Evers must look unbelievable!!

If that is true either we are going to go 9-3 or Mora could lose the locker room. I'm in the "start JF" camp
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Said this a couple days ago. Mora said he's not going to flip flop on starters and doesn't think that's how it should be. Also said, Evers won the starting QB job a couple weeks before the Maryland game. I was saying this could be the outcome and for everybody to temper their expectations because similar to your point... if you say this guy is our starter and we ain't flip flopping, then you could also lose the locker room for flip flopping on a your decision when you said you wouldn't. That's why it was always in the back of my mind that Evers if cleared would be back in the lineup.
 
Hamms30 said:
Said this a couple days ago. Mora said he's not going to flip flop on starters and doesn't think that's how it should be. Also said, Evers won the starting QB job a couple weeks before the Maryland game. I was saying this could be the outcome and for everybody to temper their expectations because similar to your point... if you say this guy is our starter and we ain't flip flopping, then you could also lose the locker room for flip flopping on a your decision when you said you wouldn't. That's why it was always in the back of my mind that Evers if cleared would be back in the lineup.
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Except we have had two games since then and one QB looks more ready than the other. Don’t get in the way of success.

They can start Fagnano and if it doesn’t work then they can always try Evers again.
 
ZooCougar said:
Except we have had two games since then and one QB looks more ready than the other. Don’t get in the way of success.

They can start Fagnano and if it doesn’t work then they can always try Evers again.
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That's likely not viable. Whoever the starter is.. Evers or Fagnano is getting the lion's share of the first team reps. We're in season now.. it's not summer camp anymore. Coaches watch film, come up with a game plan, pare down the playbook for the week to fit the game plan and then you spend the week implementing it. If it's Joe F. great. If it's Evers, great. But you don't have time anymore to let everybody get a bite at the apple during practice, because you need your starters to have the plan locked in. So it's not like you just say.. ah that's a rough start for Joe, let's throw Nick in there. If he could just hop in there and play better having gotten less reps in practice, then he likely should have been the start all along and vice versa.

Like I said in an earlier post, Evers went down with an injury and Joe F. stepped up and played great. What the coaches need to figure out is, if Evers wasn't hurt, he'd have started, and would we have had the same outcome and would we all be singing his praises for 5 td passes? If yes, then are we going to penalize a player for being injured and held out for medical? If no, then you have a much more clear cut answer.

Edit: Looks like all these things were said at the press conference today, looking at the Tweets posted in Duke game thread.
 
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metsfan2323 said:
Don't rule out the possibility of keeping Fagnano healthy for the winnable games. The G5 games will determine if we make a bowl or not. In previous year's It seemed to me our team got fired up for the wrong games, maybe a correction has been made.
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I hope not, that's a remarkably bad attitude to take with this. It also presumes Evers is a liability because that would be the reason you don't do it the other way around.
 
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