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Of course he can. Funny how our line got better last year with Cochrane at QB.

I guess you don't see the irony of correcting spelling/grammar in one post ... and then making a spelling error a few posts later. Myself? I would be very careful in my subsequent posts to make sure I was perfect.
 
There are plenty who believe Boyle should sit or try for a redshirt. Where are these people? The RS is off the table now. Who are the people saying Boyle should sit? I want names. This is Straw Man #1. There is also the Boyle isn't ready argument we have seen on this thread. There are people, including me, who are not convinced that Boyle gives us the best chance to win but want to play him this year. Does that mean he's not ready? I don't know. I do know that my analysis is based on what we've seen in games. What is your analysis based on? Others still back Whitmer or trust what Diaco believes he is seeing in practice from Whitmer. Straw Man #2. That seems to be the position you are advocating. The idea that Whitmer will improve in games after observing he hasn't improved for three years runs counter to reality. Everyone agrees that Whitmer is what he is. Straw Man #3 that you arguing with yourself on. We know CW is awesome in a red jersey. He must be burning up practice.

Frustrated does not begin to describe how I feel when watching CW trot out game after game. How can the coach thinks there will be a different result? BTW, I appreciate every player who ever said "yes" to a UConn scholarship offer. This is completely about CW performance on the field.
 
I guess you don't see the irony of correcting spelling/grammar in one post ... and then making a spelling error a few posts later. Myself? I would be very careful in my subsequent posts to make sure I was perfect.

Palatine also really likes Graham Steward.
 
Honestly, and seriously, I'd take either one right now. Whoever it is will be running for his life. Given our group of backs I wish we were running a wishbone or a flexbone offense.

You really want to see more of Foxx at QB? I'm not sure how to respond.
 
Unfortunately we couldn't consider trying to finish the season with one scholarship QB from mid September forward if we had a great offensive line.

But to date they could have gone with only Whitmer. They didn't have to put Boyle in a game yet.

Whitmer hasn't gotten hurt and they had plenty of time to get Foxx ready without him getting hurt.

It's like the worst of both worlds: No redshirt AND not enough playing time to develop or evaluate him.

I mean if the argument is going to be well if Whitmer gets hurt then somehow the 4-5 series Boyle has played in three games help him? Seriously?
 
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But to date they could have gone with only Whitmer. They didn't have to put Boyle in a game yet.

Whitmer hasn't gotten hurt and they had plenty of time to get Foxx ready without him getting hurt.

It's like the worst of both worlds: No redshirt AND not enough playing time to develop or evaluate him.

I mean if the argument is going to be well if Whitmer gets hurt then somehow the 4-5 series Boyle has played in three games help him? Seriously?

Boyle was only redshirted to put CC ahead him class-wise. Since Cochrane is gone there s no reason to redshirt Boyle.
 
This is just my opinion, but it looks like Diaco is playing for next year. One can argue that putting Boyle in is the best for that scenario, and I mostly agree. But if the thought process is that by putting Boyle in behind a line in shambles, that it actually hampers his progress and risks him getting seriously injured... That's a valid thought process too. In that sense, CW is a sacrificial lamb until we have a competent line.
 
Boyle was only redshirted to put CC ahead him class-wise. Since Cochrane is gone there s no reason to redshirt Boyle.

It's Cochran. And there should be an apostrophe in "there's" instead of a space.

Also, nobody is suggesting that Boyle redshirt since, well, it's not possible any longer.
 
This is just my opinion, but it looks like Diaco is playing for next year. One can argue that putting Boyle in is the best for that scenario, and I mostly agree. But if the thought process is that by putting Boyle in behind a line in shambles, that it actually hampers his progress and risks him getting seriously injured... That's a valid thought process too. In that sense, CW is a sacrificial lamb until we have a competent line.

Which makes playing him sparingly all the more puzzling and bizarre.

If Boyle doesn't get increased play on Saturday and isn't named the starter for the rest of the I might get banned because I will hammer Diaco on this.
 
You really want to see more of Foxx at QB? I'm not sure how to respond.

What's the worst that can happen? I personally don't have unreasonable expectations for this season, but even on a good day, Whitmer hasn't been efficient enough to produce on a consistent basis. I'll take a garbage time QB who can potentially produce positive plays with his feet and occasionally throw the ball, or a sophomore QB who only gave a small sampling during a brutal stretch of schedule his freshman year, over a 5th year senior who's proven to be largely unreliable the past few seasons, ANYTIME. I recognize the role the OL plays in the offensive struggles and ineptitude, but what else is there to think about? Either get Boyle some experience, or experiment with Foxx, but for the love of God, regardless of results (which we're apparently not playing for anyway), stop playing the same broken record and trotting Whitmer out onto the field every week.
 
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What's the worst that can happen? I personally don't have unreasonable expectations for this season, but even on a good day, Whitmer hasn't been efficient enough to produce on a consistent basis. I'll take a garbage time QB who can potentially produce positive plays with his feet and occasionally throw the ball, or a sophomore QB who only gave a small sampling during a brutal stretch of schedule his freshman year, over a 5th year senior who's proven to be largely unreliable the past few seasons, ANYTIME. I recognize the role the OL plays in the offensive struggles and ineptitude, but what else is there to think about? Either get Boyle some experience, or experiment with Foxx, but for the love of God, regardless of results (which we're apparently not playing for anyway), stop playing the same broken record and trotting Whitmer out onto the field every week.

I can't believe I state this, but you forced me to do it.

Playing our senior starting slot WR as QB may be the dumbest suggestion I've ever heard.

Foxx is a senior.

He is a starting WR (2nd best on the team).

We saw him in garbage time against Temple.

Other than that, it sounds like a great idea.
 
I can't believe I state this, but you forced me to do it.

Playing our senior starting slot WR as QB may be the dumbest suggestion I've ever heard.

Foxx is a senior.

He is a starting WR (2nd best on the team).

We saw him in garbage time against Temple.

Other than that, it sounds like a great idea.

You call this a dumb suggestion and nominate it as maybe the dumbest you ever heard but the head Coach has tried it and has a "package of plays" for him as quarterback.
 
This is just my opinion, but it looks like Diaco is playing for next year. One can argue that putting Boyle in is the best for that scenario, and I mostly agree. But if the thought process is that by putting Boyle in behind a line in shambles, that it actually hampers his progress and risks him getting seriously injured... That's a valid thought process too. In that sense, CW is a sacrificial lamb until we have a competent line.

That's exactly how it looks.
 
You call this a dumb suggestion and nominate it as maybe the dumbest you ever heard but the head Coach has tried it and has a "package of plays" for him as quarterback.

Yes, and I think that's more of an indictment on Diaco's start than anything else.
 
Yes, and I think that's more of an indictment on Diaco's start than anything else.

No it's a result of the loss of one quarterback and the ineffectiveness of number's 2 and 3 for whatever reason.

By the way, no one is "forcing you" to respond: you just can't keep your mouth shut!
 
No it's a result of the loss of one quarterback and the ineffectiveness of number's 2 and 3 for whatever reason.

By the way, no one is "forcing you" to respond: you just can't keep your mouth shut!

I was actually responding to sub legacy, not you.
 
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Which makes playing him sparingly all the more puzzling and bizarre.

If Boyle doesn't get increased play on Saturday and isn't named the starter for the rest of the I might get banned because I will hammer Diaco on this.
I think he's trying to walk a fine line of giving him game reps while simultaneously protecting him, and not really fulfilling either objective. I guess some game reps are better than no game reps?
 
We'll see how many people "like" your posts as opposed to mine in this thread. You are getting as bad as Muntz with the strawman. Yes, strawman, as in one word. Know why? Cause I don't give a fugg.
It's not so much a straw man as it is beating a dead horse. But yeah...
 
I think he's trying to walk a fine line of giving him game reps while simultaneously protecting him, and not really fulfilling either objective. I guess some game reps are better than no game reps?
My take as well.

That line couldn't block a bunch of grannies with walkers. With CC out the redshirt was burned and although Boyle isn't near ready, getting him in the game removes some of the jitters until the first rush by the other teams defense. In the limited time he has been in I haven't seen anything from him to give me hope so I'm totally baffled by the number of people who want him to start. If someone makes the argument he needs time to get a feel for the game I totally understand that. And I'll argue back that the offensive line will very unlikely provide him with that time.

At least with him as a back up, we can pretend there is hope. I get Palatine making the argument that Boyle should start. He generally struggles to extrapolate. But some of the other posters in this thread I just don't get!

The last thing I expected was such utter deflation in the football forum. I used to think it was the most stoic forum on the Boneyard. I guess there is a limit to stoicism. To expand upon Jimmy and Pals debate I think the Temple game is the straw that broke the Huskies back!!
 
No it's a result of the loss of one quarterback and the ineffectiveness of number's 2 and 3 for whatever reason.

By the way, no one is "forcing you" to respond: you just can't keep your mouth shut!

Jimmy can take care of himself, but this isn't really about him. No one may be forcing him to respond, but no one is also forcing anyone else to be a fan of or follow UConn football.
 
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Jimmy can take care of himself, but this isn't really about him. No one may be forcing him to respond, but no one is also forcing anyone else to be a fan of or follow UConn football.
I don't know about that. I've been forcing myself to follow the team a lot this year!:(
 
Playing our senior starting slot WR as QB may be the dumbest suggestion I've ever heard.

If (and its a big if) Diaco has plans in the future for a mobile QB (I've heard Davis and Shariffs fit this mold?) then I wonder if Diaco is trying to implement his system using Foxx (was a HS QB?) now since the season is pretty much in the toilet anyway? Its the best straw man I can come up with :)
 
If (and its a big if) Diaco has plans in the future for a mobile QB (I've heard Davis and Shariffs fit this mold?) then I wonder if Diaco is trying to implement his system using Foxx (was a HS QB?) now since the season is pretty much in the toilet anyway? Its the best straw man I can come up with :)

Valid if he puts Foxx in and plays him the whole game. Otherwise makes no sense.
 
We'll see how many people "like" your posts as opposed to mine in this thread. You are getting as bad as Muntz with the strawman. Yes, strawman, as in one word. Know why? Cause I don't give a fugg.


Status quote isn't working, so starting Boyle at least would be doing something. I think most fans want something different than what is happening now.

Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is signs of insanity.
 
I don't know about that. I've been forcing myself to follow the team a lot this year!:(
I'm just sick and tired of the negativity. The program sucks, the coach sucks, the QB sucks, the conference sucks, the Athletic Director sucks.

Jeezus Crise, give the guy (Diaco) more than a month to turn the ship around!! He wasn't exactly handed the keys to Nadine Belfort's yacht. He's traversing the Atlantic in a dingy.
 
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We can't win with Chandler Whitmer.

We all know this - we've seen it attempted and it goes horrifically wrong.

He gives the other team touchdowns. He actually hands them points on a game by game basis.

If the other team never bothered to field an offense, Chandler would still manage to lose some games - he is that prolific in his ability to directly put points on the board for the opposition. If we played a top 40 team and they promised to punt on first down for the entire game, some would still beat us handily.

Can we win with Boyle? I don't know, but even doubt is preferable to the certainty of Whitmer.
 
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