The Official Thread of The New York Yankees - 2022

[storrsroars]

Like I said, our bullpen SUCKS.

Three best guys all injured. At least Bednar comes back on Friday. But Crowe has no business closing.

That said, I can see why you Yankee fans get frustrated. Your guys swing at a lot of crap.

 

[storrsroars]

I had no clue that Ke'Bryan was the son of Charlie Hayes. lol

Will Crowe is related to HoFer Red Ruffing. His kid's middle name is Ruffing.

Crowe didn't get the pitching genes though.

 

[superjohn]

I think we're witnessing the greatest home run hitter ever. Only thing that's slowed him down is injuries. He hit 52 as a rookie in what should've been an MVP season and he's 20 homers clear from #2 this season. He's just a tick behind McGwire and Ruth for homers per at bat in his career. If he can stay healthy we're going to see some more insane homer totals coming in the upcoming seasons, it better be in pinstripes.

 

[McLovin]

I think we're witnessing the greatest home run hitter ever. Only thing that's slowed him down is injuries. He hit 52 as a rookie in what should've been an MVP season and he's 20 homers clear from #2 this season. He's just a tick behind McGwire and Ruth for homers per at bat in his career. If he can stay healthy we're going to see some more insane homer totals coming in the upcoming seasons, it better be in pinstripes.

Ruth hit 46 HR per 162 games, Judge is currently at 49 HR per 162 for his career. So Judge is actually hitting at a higher clip than the great bambino.

Granted, Ruth maintained that pace for a 20 year career in an era where most teams didn’t even hit 46 HRs per year. But it’s still insane what Judge has managed to do in his short career so far.

 

[ClifSpliffy]

'Gleyber is completely useless btw,'

'I mean Stanton hurt again, Benetendi out more than likely for good, Rizzo headaches from the epidural. Why even make the playoffs this team is dreadful.'

'This team is still trash btw, ... Montas is trash, Holmes magic is gone. Team is put together with scotch tape trying strike fire at the right time'

'Spring training lineup. The front office is a joke and the team stinks'

 

[ClifSpliffy]

one of my unks middle name is Harrison.
i like the feel that this new guy brings.

he's all refined now, and prettied up in pinstripes, but underneath....

thanks mr cashman.

 

[storrsroars]

Ruth hit 46 HR per 162 games, Judge is currently at 49 HR per 162 for his career. So Judge is actually hitting at a higher clip than the great bambino.

I think a better way to compare is:

PA per HR: Ruth 14.88 /Judge 14.22
AB per HR: Ruth 11.76 /Judge 11.91

It's obviously very close, but Ruth was walked once every 5.15 PAs, while Judge is only walked once every 6.83 PAs, so "games played" doesn't tell the full story. Ruth is still a tad better when given pitches to hit.

 

[Dove]

I think a better way to compare is:

PA per HR: Ruth 14.88 /Judge 14.22
AB per HR: Ruth 11.76 /Judge 11.91

It's obviously very close, but Ruth was walked once every 5.15 PAs, while Judge is only walked once every 6.83 PAs, so "games played" doesn't tell the full story. Ruth is still a tad better when given pitches to hit.

So, home runs/AB they are the same.

 

[Cheddie]

Eight years $300 million.

My gut tells me that the Yanks already have a firm ceiling on what they will be willing to pay and if some team exceeds that, Judge walks.

I hate the idea beyond description but I can see Hal/Cashman pulling this crap and then trying to spin it as fiscal responsibility.

"I can see Hal/Cashman pulling this crap and then trying to spin it as fiscal responsibility."

I think it's important to keep in mind that a third key player is Randy Levine. Supposedly NYY's business/political guy as president, he plays a strong behind-the-scenes role in team transactions. My gut feeling is that he'll have more weight with Steinbrenner on a Judge deal than Cashman. That was strengthened the other day by Levine surfacing in a relatively uncommon interview to talk about Judge's worth.

As for the contract, I would guess NY will agree to pay Judge a record per year salary - the catch will be # of years as the team has expressed concern over how a larger player like him will physically handle wear and tear in his late 30's.

 

[StllH8L8ner]

'Gleyber is completely useless btw,'

'I mean Stanton hurt again, Benetendi out more than likely for good, Rizzo headaches from the epidural. Why even make the playoffs this team is dreadful.'

'This team is still trash btw, ... Montas is trash, Holmes magic is gone. Team is put together with scotch tape trying strike fire at the right time'

'Spring training lineup. The front office is a joke and the team stinks'

You get a like for the German Shepard pic.

 

[ClifSpliffy]

im not really sure how all this stat stuff is measured. mebbe it's all aboot who and how they do the measuring.
i checked my usual place and i found this, HR%:

'percentage of all plate appearances a home run was hit'
Stanton - 13 years, 6.3%
Giancarlo Stanton Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Rookie Status & More | Baseball-Reference.com
Judge - 7 years, 7%
Aaron Judge Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Rookie Status & More | Baseball-Reference.com
Ruth - 22 years, 6.7%
Babe Ruth Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Rookie Status & More | Baseball-Reference.com

not sure what all this stat stuff means, all only to say that Giancarlo is pretty dang good too, only two years older than Aaron, and also on our squad.

history would indicate that we're called 'the bombers' for a reason.
truth in advertising, an all that.

youse should provide a link or something when u toss around data, given some of youse records on stuff is questionable to the logic seeking observer.

are those spaghetti sauce stains on his shirt in this pic? hmm, more human than his stats may indicate.

 

[McLovin]

im not really sure how all this stat stuff is measured. mebbe it's all aboot who and how they do the measuring.
i checked my usual place and i found this, HR%:

'percentage of all plate appearances a home run was hit'
Stanton - 13 years, 6.3%
Giancarlo Stanton Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Rookie Status & More | Baseball-Reference.com
Judge - 7 years, 7%
Aaron Judge Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Rookie Status & More | Baseball-Reference.com
Ruth - 22 years, 6.7%
Babe Ruth Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Rookie Status & More | Baseball-Reference.com

not sure what all this stat stuff means, all only to say that Giancarlo is pretty dang good too, only two years older than Aaron, and also on our squad.

history would indicate that we're called 'the bombers' for a reason.
truth in advertising, an all that.

youse should provide a link or something when u toss around data, given some of youse records on stuff is questionable to the logic seeking observer.

are those spaghetti sauce stains on his shirt in this pic? hmm, more human than his stats may indicate.

My data comes from baseball-reference.com , the exact site you get yours from lol

 

[huskeynut]

Ruth hit his 60th homer in game 154.

Judge hits his 60th home run in game 147.

 

[Dove]

Ruth hit his 60th homer in game 154.

Judge hits his 60th home run in game 147.

What was Babe's exit velo?

 

[FfldCntyFan]

"I can see Hal/Cashman pulling this crap and then trying to spin it as fiscal responsibility."

I think it's important to keep in mind that a third key player is Randy Levine. Supposedly NYY's business/political guy as president, he plays a strong behind-the-scenes role in team transactions. My gut feeling is that he'll have more weight with Steinbrenner on a Judge deal than Cashman. That was strengthened the other day by Levine surfacing in a relatively uncommon interview to talk about Judge's worth.

As for the contract, I would guess NY will agree to pay Judge a record per year salary - the catch will be # of years as the team has expressed concern over how a larger player like him will physically handle wear and tear in his late 30's.

Levine's out of character commentary has me even more concerned.

It was framed to sound like a public assurance to Judge that the team would do right by him (to prevent the possibility of another team presenting Judge a huge offer with the caveat that it is off the table if he leaves without signing) but the statement "Judge must realize that being a Yankee benefits him just as he benefits the Yankees" sounds like the negotiations will include "being in the largest media market with the sport's most historic franchise is worth millions beyond what we will pay you. Our offer is worth more than someone else's even if theirs is for more money".

That won't end well for Yankee fans

 

[ClifSpliffy]

What was Babe's exit velo?

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[storrsroars]

My data comes from baseball-reference.com , the exact site you get yours from lol

What's your point? You looked at it from games played, I broke it down to PAs/ABs.

Anyway, stats are limited. You could say Ruth benefited from not having to face Blacks, or different relievers every time up or being protected by Gehrig. You could say Judge benefits from the general HR-friendliness of his home park and being an enormous bulked up human fueled by modern science instead of hot dogs and beer.

Point is I simply drilled down to more than simple games played. That's all. Not trying to incite emotions here. I have no emotional investment in the outcome. I'll simply add that Ruth changed the way baseball was played. Judge won't have that effect.

 

[McLovin]

What's your point? You looked at it from games played, I broke it down to PAs/ABs.

Anyway, stats are limited. You could say Ruth benefited from not having to face Blacks, or different relievers every time up or being protected by Gehrig. You could say Judge benefits from the general HR-friendliness of his home park and being an enormous bulked up human fueled by modern science instead of hot dogs and beer.

Point is I simply drilled down to more than simple games played. That's all. Not trying to incite emotions here. I have no investment in the outcome.

Lmao chill. I was responding to the dude who is smokin the reefer who asked we cite our sources (when there is really only one source for comprehensive historical baseball data)

 

[storrsroars]

Lmao chill. I was responding to the dude who is smokin the reefer who asked we cite our sources (when there is really only one source for comprehensive historical baseball data)

Apologies then. Didn't see a post quoted. Maybe someone I'm ignoring.

Looking forward to seeing how Contreras fares tonight. And that Crowe gets DFAd and Shelton fired, lol.

 

[McLovin]

Apologies then. Didn't see a post quoted. Maybe someone I'm ignoring.

Haha no need to apologize. I bet it’s someone you have on ignore…

 

[superjohn]

What's your point? You looked at it from games played, I broke it down to PAs/ABs.

Anyway, stats are limited. You could say Ruth benefited from not having to face Blacks, or different relievers every time up or being protected by Gehrig. You could say Judge benefits from the general HR-friendliness of his home park and being an enormous bulked up human fueled by modern science instead of hot dogs and beer.

Point is I simply drilled down to more than simple games played. That's all. Not trying to incite emotions here. I have no emotional investment in the outcome. I'll simply add that Ruth changed the way baseball was played. Judge won't have that effect.

Yankee stadium isn't a home run friendly park for righties and Judge hits more homers on the road.

Are you implying Judge is a an enormous bulked up human because of today's food? He sure as hell isn't on steroids.

 

[superjohn]

Buster Olney says this is the greatest hitting season in the history of baseball...

 

[storrsroars]

Are you implying Judge is a an enormous bulked up human because of today's food? He sure as hell isn't on steroids.

Wasn't implying steroids. But to me, the guy seems about as fun as Ivan Drago.

I'm also really annoyed and disappointed Bader sold out and cut those locks to play there

 

[ShakyTheMohel]

Levine's out of character commentary has me even more concerned.

It was framed to sound like a public assurance to Judge that the team would do right by him (to prevent the possibility of another team presenting Judge a huge offer with the caveat that it is off the table if he leaves without signing) but the statement "Judge must realize that being a Yankee benefits him just as he benefits the Yankees" sounds like the negotiations will include "being in the largest media market with the sport's most historic franchise is worth millions beyond what we will pay you. Our offer is worth more than someone else's even if theirs is for more money".

That won't end well for Yankee fans

I am still torn on this to be honest. If Cashman is going to be focused on not going over the cap....and for multiple years you still have Stanton, Cole and Judge....where does that leave the rest of the team? Can you lock up quality starting pitching 2-5 with that budget? And I do have some concerns with long term health considering he is already 30.

But...I think they need to pay him...and they need to not worry about the cap....because they have the money. But if they continue to say they will stay under the cap....it's going to be a problem fielding a team to support the expensive 3.

 

[Dove]

Buster Olney says this is the greatest hitting season in the history of baseball...

Wow...he had 1 Jack in his first 55 PAs

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Buster Olney says this is the greatest hitting season in the history of baseball...

Buster may well be correct.

At worst a valid argument can be made that it is when you combine a) the number of hone runs that he leads the remainder of the field by; b) his batting average when compared to the batting averages of 55+ home run seasons post expansion (1960's forward) and c) the number of called third strikes he's had that were below the strike zone this season (in early August he had 12 called third strikes on balls and the next highest was either two or three).

This isn't even considering the intentional and semi-intentional walks (Ruth had Gehrig in 1927, Maris had Mantle in 1961).

 

[superjohn]

Buster may well be correct.

At worst a valid argument can be made that it is when you combine a) the number of hone runs that he leads the remainder of the field by; b) his batting average when compared to the batting averages of 55+ home run seasons post expansion (1960's forward) and c) the number of called third strikes he's had that were below the strike zone this season (in early August he had 12 called third strikes on balls and the next highest was either two or three).

This isn't even considering the intentional and semi-intentional walks (Ruth had Gehrig in 1927, Maris had Mantle in 1961).

Agreed. He absolutely gets more bogus strikes called against him than anyone I've seen.

 

[storrsroars]

Buster may well be correct.

At worst a valid argument can be made that it is when you combine a) the number of hone runs that he leads the remainder of the field by; b) his batting average when compared to the batting averages of 55+ home run seasons post expansion (1960's forward) and c) the number of called third strikes he's had that were below the strike zone this season (in early August he had 12 called third strikes on balls and the next highest was either two or three).

This isn't even considering the intentional and semi-intentional walks (Ruth had Gehrig in 1927, Maris had Mantle in 1961).

It's an argument to be had.

But let me throw this out there: single season OPS+ leaders.

One can disagree with the OPS+ algorithm. One can legitimately state that Negro League stats are iffy. One can certainly point to Bonds' use of PEDs. Judge in 47th overall. Take out the Negro Leagues and Bonds/McGwire and he's 17th. Take out Babe Ruth and he's 9th.

But it seems to me that "55+ home run(s)" is fairly arbitrary as it leaves out Mickey Mantle's 1956 season, when he hit a mere 52, was walked 146 times, and hit a HR every 10.25 ABs, while hitting .333. (I'll also mention in 1961, he hit a HR once every 9.75 ABs, far better than Ruth or Judge).

So again, it's an argument to be had. But we also all know that Mick was never fully healthy after ripping his knee apart, so I'll simply say regarding Judge that it's a fine accomplishment, but I'm not going to say definitively that it's the best hitting season ever.

 

[storrsroars]

Well, that's game and it's still the 1st. Roansy is going to be very good but still needs to learn to pitch inside to LHB. Congrats on the 2 game sweep.

 

[ClifSpliffy]

Lmao chill. I was responding to the dude who is smokin the reefer who asked we cite our sources (when there is really only one source for comprehensive historical baseball data)

'reefer?'

the big clock on the wall sez it's 2-0-2-2, and not 1-9-2-2.
i mean, iffn u said 'bagweed,' or 'sinsemilla,' or even 'schwag,' the reader might know what ur talkin aboot, but 'reefer'? u still have an 'icebox?' lol.

and, on that post waving the white flag on tonites game
(here comes looie!, prolly got tired of hanging in the hot tub, smoking stogies, and having scantily clad ladies bring him frosty bev's), yammerin on aboot some make believe team from Pennsylvania, and not showing proper amazement and respect for the current bomberiest of bombers, well, he/she/they just don't get that we're


i wonder how it will turn out with bennie, brit, and carp?
they're on the team, too.