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navery12 said:
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I argued for years that they should have traded him before TJ surgery because I figured he’d be down for two seasons. I never expected much if anything from him this season.
 
8893 said:
I argued for years that they should have traded him before TJ surgery because I figured he’d be down for two seasons. I never expected much if anything from him this season.
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I always rooted for them to lock up deGrom long term over him for that reason. Seems they got that part right, at least.
 
Great pair of wins today, if we can hold on to this second game of the doubleheader.

It really is remarkable how we've been able to scratch wins out considering our whole team is on the IL.
 
M.S.G. said:
Great pair of wins today, if we can hold on to this second game of the doubleheader.

It really is remarkable how we've been able to scratch wins out considering our whole team is on the IL.
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So when does Rojas start getting credit? His use of the pen and all these makeshift lineups? We’d surely be blaming him if they were 6 games under .500 even with the injuries.
 
Deepster said:
So when does Rojas start getting credit? His use of the pen and all these makeshift lineups? We’d surely be blaming him if they were 6 games under .500 even with the injuries.
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He probably does deserve some credit, but the day he's fired can't come soon enough for me
 
I loved the trade but don’t like the contract. When he allegedly turned down something like 10/325 I would’ve been fine letting him play out the year. There are other SS that will be available. However Cohen can clearly afford it so ‍♂️.

But yea I’m starting to lose hope he can finish the year with decent numbers. I’d probably sign up for a .235 average right now as that would mean he at least hits .265 or so the rest of the year.
 
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With all the injuries and me not knowing half the position players before the season, I’m getting major 2015 vibes. I don’t even think they need to get everyone back to have a more talented team than 2015. My optimism is unbridled and I’m ready to be hurt again.
 
If Jacob goes out and spins a gem tonight, I'm going to start become irrationally confident in this team - and setting myself up...
 
Question.

Who is the next captain of the Mets?

Alonso? Home grown? Has that “it” factor?
Lindor? Leader on the field, big contract and not going anywhere for a while?
Anyone else? Could a guy like Pillar or Dom be that guy?
 
Deepster said:
Question.

Who is the next captain of the Mets?

Alonso? Home grown? Has that “it” factor?
Lindor? Leader on the field, big contract and not going anywhere for a while?
Anyone else? Could a guy like Pillar or Dom be that guy?
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If I'm voting? Alonso hands down. Checks all the boxes.
 
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Deepster said:
Question.

Who is the next captain of the Mets?

Alonso? Home grown? Has that “it” factor?
Lindor? Leader on the field, big contract and not going anywhere for a while?
Anyone else? Could a guy like Pillar or Dom be that guy?
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There's been so few that if I were betting I'd say none of them become the captain. Alonso makes sense from the homegrown aspect, think it's clear Lindor is already the leader of the team though
 
navery12 said:
There's been so few that if I were betting I'd say none of them become the captain. Alonso makes sense from the homegrown aspect, think it's clear Lindor is already the leader of the team though
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I almost look at it like when the Sox had guys like Manny and Ortiz but chose Varitek as their captain. When Alonso got everyone 9/11 cleats on his own his rookie year, that's the stuff I see that earns the C more than maybe being rah rah on the field like Lindor is more of?
 
navery12 said:
Calling it a 3 year slide is incredibly misleading and clickbait, it's a downtrend but a much smaller sample then that article implies

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He also seemed to be barrelling the ball better in that last game against Arizona. I feel asleep too early to see last night's game but it looks like he had a decent night at the plate.
 
8893 said:
He also seemed to be barrelling the ball better in that last game against Arizona. I feel asleep too early to see last night's game but it looks like he had a decent night at the plate.
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Yeah I feel asleep in the 4th inning but looked like he was productive in getting them their runs after I stopped watching. This is an interesting read on what's causing his issues, long story short he doesn't do anything particularly well in hitting the ball hard or a lot of line drives/fly balls but is elite at just putting the ball in play and not striking out. So he's prone to extended periods where he looks terrible when balls aren't dropping but over the long term that tends to even out and the numbers should even out

blogs.fangraphs.com

What’s Eating Francisco Lindor?

He’s the same, but also different.
blogs.fangraphs.com blogs.fangraphs.com
 
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lavuuk153 said:
So this deGrom fella is pretty good.
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Perhaps it's my bias from being a Mets fan, but I can't remember seeing so little fanfare about such a dominating player. Is it because he is so humble? Is it because he is a Met?

I feel like he would be headline news with his face lining billboards on the highway and appearing on countless commercials if he was on the Yankees or the Red Sox, or if he was a real showy player.

But he just goes about his work like another day at the office.
 
Big split on the road after losing the first two. Take two from the Orioles and win the next series against SD and extend their lead.
 
8893 said:
Perhaps it's my bias from being a Mets fan, but I can't remember seeing so little fanfare about such a dominating player. Is it because he is so humble? Is it because he is a Met?

I feel like he would be headline news with his face lining billboards on the highway and appearing on countless commercials if he was on the Yankees or the Red Sox, or if he was a real showy player.

But he just goes about his work like another day at the office.
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Is it because the team hasn't been great and he really hasn't had a chance to shine on a national stage to this point? To your point, he's so clinical, he's like a cyborg that just terminates hitters. No fist pumping or animation like Stroman. His highlights are just making hitters swing feebly as he struts calmly to the dugout. Not a dck like Cole or Sherzer. I think the point of your post is right....but I'm a biased Mets fan too in the end.
 
Uh oh, 538 analysis makes my head hurt, and always leaves me with the impression that it could be good or bad:

fivethirtyeight.com

Why The Mets Might Actually Be Good

And why they might not.
fivethirtyeight.com fivethirtyeight.com

The money shot (as if we needed to be told this):

According to base runs, a metric that estimates the number of runs a team “should” have scored or allowed based on the the individual offensive events (i.e., singles, doubles, walks, etc.) it produced or gave up, New York has been the unluckiest team in the league so far this season.
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I’m not liking this pattern of him coming out with so few pitches. I hope it’s just a precaution. Either way he finishes with 6 innings 1 hit no walks 10 ks and he drove in 2 runs. He now has a .56 era, is the fastest (inning wise) pitcher to 100 strikeouts and he has more rbi than ER allowed after 10 starts.

TL/DR the MVP chants are apt.
 
Life is pain. I’m hearing it’s a finger issue not an elbow one so hopefully this isn’t a big deal.
 
Can we talk about the front office for a minute?

McKinney is the latest gem. Pillar, Villar, Walker, Stroman, Castro. May. A+ off-season and in season management.
 
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