The Official 2024 NY Mets Thread

[husky8273]

Trumpet. Shitcan him to bullpen by committee. Stanek, Maton, Garrett, even Megill for heaven’s sake.

Diaz is no longer the closer he was in '22.

 

[navery12]

Trumpet. Shitcan him to bullpen by committee. Stanek, Maton, Garrett, even Megill for heaven’s sake.

Diaz sucked today, but he's been so overworked just to get us to this point so it's hard to blame him. He's covered up for a very mediocre bullpen

 

[Deepster]

Diaz sucked today, but he's been so overworked just to get us to this point so it's hard to blame him. He's covered up for a very mediocre bullpen

Agree with this. He threw 100 pitches over 3 outings in 5 days. He’s giving us everything he’s got.

 

[Deepster]

Not concerned. Both games they thought they had us and we punched them in the nose. Now we’re home for 2.

 

[FanInNC]

I disagreed with our strategy (either from the dug out or from Diaz) to pitch around Harper and basically unintentionally/intentionally walk him.

We were up 4-3 1 out no one on. If he hits a jack, oh well. Sucks but it’s still tied and then no one is on base. Instead we walk on 4 non competitive pitches and now the leading run comes up. I just don’t like that at all. Crowd gets into it and pressure builds with guys on base.

Diaz is not what he was, but he’s also 2 years older and coming off a major injury. Probably never will be that guy again. When he locates he’s still untouchable. But he gets erratic. Too many 3-2 counts and the balls he throws often aren’t competitive pitches. Bit us last night.

But hey, we split up there. Let’s come home to a rocking Citi field and finish the job! We have Manaea and Quintana due up. Haven’t played at home in 11 games, this team has given us a hell of a ride, the crowd should be bananas!

 

[Alum86]

Diaz is no longer the closer he was in '22.

He is no longer Mariano-Lite and fireballer of ‘22. I don’t buy he’s tired or overpitched. He is more like Benitez now. But we’re playing with house money now in our house. Let’s sweep 2, do not wanna face Wheeler again.

 

[Deepster]

He is no longer Mariano-Lite and fireballer of ‘22. I don’t buy he’s tired or overpitched. He is more like Benitez now. But we’re playing with house money now in our house. Let’s sweep 2, do not wanna face Wheeler again.

He is still only 30. And he threw 100 pitches over a 5 day period. I am NOT ready to lump him in with Armando Benitez....god, my therapist just got me over Benitez, I can't go back there right now.

 

[storrsroars]

He is still only 30. And he threw 100 pitches over a 5 day period. I am NOT ready to lump him in with Armando Benitez....god, my therapist just got me over Benitez, I can't go back there right now.

Closers are volatile. You guys probably don't care one bit, but going into this season, the supposed strength of my Pirates was its pen. And that pen blew almost 30 games this year, led by our two-time All Star closer David Bednar. For all the complaints from Mets and Yankees fans about your closers, out of 169 qualified relievers in 2024, Holmes was 30th with a 3.14 ERA and 1.2 fWAR, Diaz was 43rd with a 3.52 ERA and 1.1 fWAR, and Bednar was 151st with a 5.77 ERA and -0.2 fWAR.

Now, we know that blown saves is more important in measuring closers and Holmes takes that title going away with 13. But Diaz and Bednar are tied at 7, and Bednar was removed as closer near the end of the season. Nobody's really sure what happened with him, but damn, he sucked.

In 2023, all three teams were in the top 8 for least blown saves on the season. Holmes, Diaz and Bednar each had 3.

Know who was the leader in blown saves in 2023? Emmanuel Clase.

 

[Alum86]

Closers are volatile. You guys probably don't care one bit, but going into this season, the supposed strength of my Pirates was its pen. And that pen blew almost 30 games this year, led by our two-time All Star closer David Bednar. For all the complaints from Mets and Yankees fans about your closers, out of 169 qualified relievers in 2024, Holmes was 30th with a 3.14 ERA and 1.2 fWAR, Diaz was 43rd with a 3.52 ERA and 1.1 fWAR, and Bednar was 151st with a 5.77 ERA and -0.2 fWAR.

Now, we know that blown saves is more important in measuring closers and Holmes takes that title going away with 13. But Diaz and Bednar are tied at 7, and Bednar was removed as closer near the end of the season. Nobody's really sure what happened with him, but damn, he sucked.

In 2023, all three teams were in the top 8 for least blown saves on the season. Holmes, Diaz and Bednar each had 3.

Know who was the leader in blown saves in 2023? Emmanuel Clase.

Thank you for your interest in the 2024 Mets Thread, Mr. Steve Blass.

 

[storrsroars]

Thank you for your interest in the 2024 Mets Thread, Mr. Steve Blass.

I probably know more Mets history from 1962-2002 than you, Mr. Fat Jack Fisher.

Do you even know who Emmanuel Clase is?

 

[navery12]

I probably know more Mets history from 1962-2002 than you, Mr. Fat Jack Fisher.

Do you even know who Emmanuel Clase is?

He barely recognizes the good players on the Mets, he's a few decades away from knowing the best RP in baseball. Who also happened to give up 60% of the runs he allowed all season tonight. It turns out being a RP is hard

 

[Alum86]

I probably know more Mets history from 1962-2002 than you, Mr. Fat Jack Fisher.

Do you even know who Emmanuel Clase is?

Bet Tigers because of Skubal moneyline and cashed in as your boy spit the bit.

 

[FanInNC]

He is still only 30. And he threw 100 pitches over a 5 day period. I am NOT ready to lump him in with Armando Benitez....god, my therapist just got me over Benitez, I can't go back there right now.

We won't even mention Braden Looper's name then...

 

[Deepster]

We won't even mention Braden Looper's name then...

I'll do you one better. I used to have a Doug Sisk baseball card voodoo doll I stuck pins in his elbow and shoulder.

 

[FanInNC]

Ha. That's before my memory - John Franco is the closer I first remember. Looper is the one that gives me nightmares still.

 

[storrsroars]

geez, it's almost 8:30pm and not a peep from y'all. You guys all passed out already?

Congrats, btw.

 

[Deepster]

Our boot is on their throat. Go for the kill.

 

[Deepster]

I thought tonight “the Phillies have no idea who they’re playing”. It’s like they’re in shock at how we are overmatching them in every aspect so far. Like our chemistry and mojo have them silenced.

 

[navery12]

Gotta close this out tomorrow. Quintana has been here before and should be ready

 

[Alum86]

And did Winker’s homer come down yet? Christ, he almost had 2.

 

[FanInNC]

Pete and Winker setting the tone early with those big shots and Manaea throwing like an Ace!

Man, what I’m most impressed with is how this staff is performing. In the off season these guys were risks. Severino with injury issues on a 1 year prove it deal. Manaea on a 1 year prove it deal. Peterson I don’t even think made the opening day roster. Quintana in the twilight of his career after an injury last season. This was not Verlander and Max or Thor, Harvey and DeGrom. Very much a patch work staff with its “ace”, Senga, on the shelf.

Manaea was fantastic last night. Sevy was amazing for 5 2/3 last game. Peterson and Senga were awesome game 1. Quintana was masterful against Milwaukee.

Our bats have come alive late in these games and provided the highlights and memories but the starting pitching has kept us in these games and given us a chance.

1 win away from the NLCS! Let’s finish them off tonight! No need to go back to Philly! Hope Quintana delivers another gem and maybe tonight it’s Lindor and Alvarez’s turn to have the big hits to push us over!

 

[Deepster]

 

[lavuuk153]

Screw it, give Lindor a raise.

 

[Alum86]

up 4-1 give me 5 insurance as diaz will surely make it interrsting.

 

[noeynox]

Really couldn't let Peterson start the 9th?