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The Official 2024 NY Mets Thread

I don’t believe in locking up any pitchers arm for that long and that much.
 
So Severino, Manaea, Alonso get the QO. My guess is all 3 decline, though I wouldn't hate Severino taking it
 
If I'm Severino, with this situation and the fact he actually had a really healthy season, I'd jump at 21m for next year.
 
I’d like Severino on another 1 year deal. Not crazy about taking him on a 3/4 year deal. Manaea will command a multi year deal from someone I’m sure after this year. I wouldn’t hate it for the Mets - but also a little wary about too long of a deal given his age and how this year may have been his career best. How repeatable is that ?
 
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navery12 said:
Hopefully not the last player to decide to move to Queens from the Bronx this off-season. Love this gamble

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Can you help me understand this move? No starts since 2018, I guess since he generates ground-balls, that's enticing? Worst-case scenario, then Holmes becomes an overpriced reliever.
 
Head scratcher to bring him in as a starter. Maybe he can be a swing/5th starter. Can't say I love it.
 
noeynox said:
Head scratcher to bring him in as a starter. Maybe he can be a swing/5th starter. Can't say I love it.
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There's been a bunch of articles and analysis all off-season about him being the next guy who has the stuff to be a good SP. But even if it doesn't work you have a great 8th inning guy, there's no risk
 
Hey Adrien! said:
Can you help me understand this move? No starts since 2018, I guess since he generates ground-balls, that's enticing? Worst-case scenario, then Holmes becomes an overpriced reliever.
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There's some good analysis on the motive in here

 
I don’t hate it. So far the Mets have let Sevy sign elsewhere for 3/$67mil. They sign Montas at 2/$34 mil. Sign Holmes at 3/$38.

Last year they dipped in the bargain bin with Sevy, Manaea and Houser - 2 out of the 3 hit. This year it seems they are taking similar gambles with relatively short term deals on guys that have something to prove.
 
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lavuuk153 said:


Like this at only 3 years.
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Like this move a lot, just need 1 more SP signing and I'll feel good about this rotation. Senga, Manaea, Montas, Peterson, Holmes is a nice start. Add another top 3 SP and that looks a lot better, Sasaki would be the dream.

Looking like Alonso will hopefully be back too, all of his other potential options have added a 1B now
 
Really curious about the discussions on Pete (Mets and other teams). At this point the market price is pretty much set. If it’s a matter of years, what’s taking so long?

If I had to guess, I’d think the sides are still pretty far apart and Boras isn’t budging.
 
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Sounds like Alonso is gonna end up elsewhere. I get the decision from the Mets perspective, but the idea of going into the season with Baty at 3B is not very encouraging
 
Yep. Part of me is wondering if all of these leaks about the Mets moving on as if they expect him to go elsewhere is to put the pressure back on him. Who is offering him what he wants ? No one. Hardly anyone is even interested it seems. Maybe it’ll serve as a reality check and polar bear will lower his demands and come back. Or maybe I’m just being hopeful.
 
navery12 said:
Sounds like Alonso is gonna end up elsewhere. I get the decision from the Mets perspective, but the idea of going into the season with Baty at 3B is not very encouraging
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I don’t think Baty is in the mix. I think if Oete signs elsewhere they go for someone like Bregman and move Vientos to first. Or Mauricio somehow enters the mix.
 
Deepster said:
I don’t think Baty is in the mix. I think if Oete signs elsewhere they go for someone like Bregman and move Vientos to first. Or Mauricio somehow enters the mix.
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We ready to give up on Baty? I thought his swing was kinda long and slow but this was the guy the organization thought was better than Vientos.
 
noeynox said:
We ready to give up on Baty? I thought his swing was kinda long and slow but this was the guy the organization thought was better than Vientos.
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Well, I am. He has 169 games over three seasons and 600 MLB at bats and he’s never hit above .220. He probably has a place in the majors but starting at 3B for us where we are right now.
 
noeynox said:
We ready to give up on Baty? I thought his swing was kinda long and slow but this was the guy the organization thought was better than Vientos.
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Not ready to completely give up on him, but I'm not sure he's anything more than a bench piece at this point. Same with McNeil

That's why I want to see one more big bat added, whether it's Pete or Bregman or Santander. I'll feel a lot better about the lineup with Vientos and whichever guy from above at the corners, and then Acuna and Mauricio at 2B
 
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navery12 said:
Not ready to completely give up on him, but I'm not sure he's anything more than a bench piece at this point. Same with McNeil

That's why I want to see one more big bat added, whether it's Pete or Bregman or Santander. I'll feel a lot better about the lineup with Vientos and whichever guy from above at the corners, and then Acuna and Mauricio at 2B
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McNeil is a frigging enigma. Can win a batting title or hit .220. He also looks like a malcontent. I'd be fine with them moving him at this point.
 
It does feel like McNeil could be a fringe all star and bat .315 with 15 homers next year - or bat .240 with 10 homers and feel like he’s the weakest guy in the line up.

OF Soto
OF Nimmo
OF Siri/Taylor
SS Lindor
1B or 3B Vientos
Remaining corner ???
2B McNeil
C Alvarez
Dan Hurley Marte/Winker

If the open corner is 3rd I guess we are having open try outs between Acuna, Ronnie and Baty ?

One danger about this line up is assuming we get a repeat of 2024 Vientos. I mean I’m high on him and expect similar production, but it’s not a guarantee. Alvarez hit 20+ homers in less than a full season and then followed it up with barely hitting 10 playing an entire one. These guys are still young - heck we are just talking about McNeils ups and downs of his career, who knows what we get from Vientos this year.

Baty is in a similar spot Vientos was in last year at this point. Hard to see a real fit for him and has little to no trade value either at the moment. I wouldn’t totally give up on him, but it’s kinda time to make it happen if it’s going to.
 
FanInNC said:
It does feel like McNeil could be a fringe all star and bat .315 with 15 homers next year - or bat .240 with 10 homers and feel like he’s the weakest guy in the line up.

OF Soto
OF Nimmo
OF Siri/Taylor
SS Lindor
1B or 3B Vientos
Remaining corner ???
2B McNeil
C Alvarez
Dan Hurley Marte/Winker

If the open corner is 3rd I guess we are having open try outs between Acuna, Ronnie and Baty ?

One danger about this line up is assuming we get a repeat of 2024 Vientos. I mean I’m high on him and expect similar production, but it’s not a guarantee. Alvarez hit 20+ homers in less than a full season and then followed it up with barely hitting 10 playing an entire one. These guys are still young - heck we are just talking about McNeils ups and downs of his career, who knows what we get from Vientos this year.

Baty is in a similar spot Vientos was in last year at this point. Hard to see a real fit for him and has little to no trade value either at the moment. I wouldn’t totally give up on him, but it’s kinda time to make it happen if it’s going to.
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Agree on Vientos. Thought Alvarez missed significant time with a thumb injury. Those things can linger i would imagine.
 
noeynox said:
Agree on Vientos. Thought Alvarez missed significant time with a thumb injury. Those things can linger i would imagine.
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True. He did and I glossed over that. My main point is you just never know how things carry over or not the following year.

I’m a little skeptical we will get AS good a year from Lindor and Vientos next year just because they were fantastic down the stretch. But maybe we will get a bump from Nimmo, Alvarez and McNeil because it felt like they maybe underperformed on offense last year.
 
FanInNC said:
True. He did and I glossed over that. My main point is you just never know how things carry over or not the following year.

I’m a little skeptical we will get AS good a year from Lindor and Vientos next year just because they were fantastic down the stretch. But maybe we will get a bump from Nimmo, Alvarez and McNeil because it felt like they maybe underperformed on offense last year.
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True, especially with young players. I thought Ike Davis was gonna be a star after his first 2 years, then he busted his ankle colliding with the pitcher on the mound on a pop up, got valley fever and was never the same again.
 
Maybe it's just my algorithm, but I'm getting a lot more Vlad Jr to the Mets buzz the last week or so.
 
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