The Official 2023 New York Jets thread

[HuskyHawk]

I don’t know. How do you know the Jets scouts aren’t fine and Darnold and Wilson just missed and someone like Brock Purdy luckily makes the Niners look brilliant? Don’t forget. The Niners sold the farm to draft Lance and he was a bust.

What that shows is that you never stop drafting QBs. Every year the draft comes and some pundits say the top guys are sure things. Except for Andrew Luck, Joe Burrow and maybe Trevor Lawrence, they aren't. Most of the first round guys will still fail as starters. That's why trading a cache of picks to grab one, like the 49ers did, is monumentally stupid. Wilson's problems are mostly mental, he never should have played so early in his career. He was clearly immature when he came into the league.

 

[ShakyTheMohel]

It is absolutely bizarre to me that scouts who have been in the sport for decades....with more data than ever before... including hundreds of examples of quarterbacks transitioning from college to pro...still can't predict how a quarterback will perform in the NFL. You would think at some point there would be enough data and examples to reduce the amount of mistakes a GM makes. Nope.

It just seems to be luck. And the Jets never never never have luck...lol.

Here is a thought...Douglas made the decision to draft Wilson. Douglas saw Wilson for two years and decided to keep Wilson as Rodger's backup...even though Mike White had proven to be the better quarterback. And...the only other backup he brought in was Boyle. AND...when Rodgers went down, Douglas waited 3 weeks before bringing in a warm body to compete with Wilson...because he still thought Zach was competent.

Do you really want Douglas picking the next "franchise qb"? But...to my earlier point...does it matter...it's just luck...lol.

They will probably just draft another DE who will sit on the bench next year anyway.

 

[Deepster]

Which will still make him better than Zach Wilson. Which by definition of the bet means I win.

We said give it through next season so we will revisit this in 15 months.

This aged well in a week. Mac looks terrible and just got pulled.

 

[HCCForever]

KC doing their best to give the game away but Jets can’t take advantage.

 

[Scoe]

Deepster winning back his bet.

 

[ShakyTheMohel]

So...Wilson didn't totally crap the bed. Let's see what happens next week. I really hope Hackett has taken this personal.

 

[HCCForever]

So...Wilson didn't totally crap the bed. Let's see what happens next week. I really hope Hackett has taken this personal.

Wilson looked good in second half especially until the dropped snap. Teammates seemed to rally around him.

 

[Deepster]

 

[HuskyHawk]

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Neither of them are good enough.

 

[ShakyTheMohel]

Jones is better at genital smacking.

 

[ShakyTheMohel]

So...Zach is showing some fight. He had that one TD drive against NE and then multiple drives last night. I really hope this is the norm going forward and not an anomaly.

 

[ShakyTheMohel]

I am now convinced the issue with Zach Wilson is that he isn't smart (posted after watching him thow a short pass with no timeouts at the end of the half thus costing them three points.

Also...stop appeasing Joe Douglas...Cook shouldn't get another carry until Hall asks out of the game.

And is Mora running the defense? Enough with allowing the QB to gouge them.

 

[ShakyTheMohel]

So…the defense bailed out Zach. Overall…Zach was ok. Good enough. i am more worried about the OL. AVT and Becton need to be ok.

 

[Deepster]

Here's what I "think" right now after a gutty road win against a bad team.....

• It's going to be tough to beat Philly.
• I think they can sweep the next 3 with the Giants, Rams and Raiders.
• I have them losing all 3 of the @ Buff and home/away Miami games. Glass half full, they split with Miami.
• Other than that? I think ATL, Houston, Washington, Cleveland and NE are all certainly winnable. That's clearly glass really half full. Truth is, Wilson will probably cost them a game they shouldn't lose. The Rams have a lot of talent on offense. NE will always be a house of horrors.

Can they go 10-7? That's a playoff spot in my opinion. And right now? KC looks like KC. I'm not afraid of the Bills or the Bengals. I'll worry about the Niners when I have to worry about the Niners.

 

[Deepster]

Deepster winning back his bet.

LOL. Mac Jones wets the bed two weeks in a row and @HooperScooper disappears.

I said it before the last two weeks, I'll say it again. Mac Jones will not be a starting NFL QB in 2 years. I may have to revise that now to next year, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

And, I think it's also time to think about telling Belichick it's his time to go as well. When Derek Carr and the Saints curb stomp you in Gillette, I mean...wow.

 

[ShakyTheMohel]

Here's what I "think" right now after a gutty road win against a bad team.....

• It's going to be tough to beat Philly.
• I think they can sweep the next 3 with the Giants, Rams and Raiders.
• I have them losing all 3 of the @ Buff and home/away Miami games. Glass half full, they split with Miami.
• Other than that? I think ATL, Houston, Washington, Cleveland and NE are all certainly winnable. That's clearly glass really half full. Truth is, Wilson will probably cost them a game they shouldn't lose. The Rams have a lot of talent on offense. NE will always be a house of horrors.

Can they go 10-7? That's a playoff spot in my opinion. And right now? KC looks like KC. I'm not afraid of the Bills or the Bengals. I'll worry about the Niners when I have to worry about the Niners.

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It's really hard to predict how Zach will do. That was a bad defense and he did just ok.

I agree with most of your predictions except for Rams. They are playing tough and the game is on the road.
I say 9-8.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Hate to see this for any player.

 

[ShakyTheMohel]

Hate to see this for any player.

Two years in a row getting a season ending injury at Denver is amazing bad luck for AVT.

...and...two Achilles injuries on the same team (starting QB and top OL) in the first five games is classic Jets bad luck.

 

[ShakyTheMohel]

The Jets might need to trade one of their defensive lineman for an offensive lineman.

Having a good player like Carl Lawson a healthy scratch...means you have too many DEs.

 

[HooperScooper]

LOL. Mac Jones wets the bed two weeks in a row and @HooperScooper disappears.

I said it before the last two weeks, I'll say it again. Mac Jones will not be a starting NFL QB in 2 years. I may have to revise that now to next year, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

And, I think it's also time to think about telling Belichick it's his time to go as well. When Derek Carr and the Saints curb stomp you in Gillette, I mean...wow.

I just saw I was being hailed. Figured it was about this. I don't visit this forum very often.

Yup, things have taken a big turn. You can thank me and my big mouth for the reverse curse!

But as we saw 2 weeks ago, things can change quickly. We said to wait until after the 4th year before making a determination. So I will keep my trap shut until next January.

And for the record, I am a Giants fan. So leave me alone. We have our own problems!

 

[dvegas]

appropriate for Rice, appropriate for Eagles. We're 1-12!

 

[Deepster]

10-7 is absolutely within reach. Would love to see the Giants pull off a “wide right” reset miracle against the Bills tonight.

 

[mauconnfan]

Jets defense is real good!

 

[Deepster]

Jets defense is real good!

Missing their 2 starting CBs in Reed and Sauce who may be #1 and #5-6 in the NFL against Hurts/Brown. Insane performance today.

My favorite guy on D after Sauce is Jermaine Johnson. He is an absolute pest. He's ALWAYS disrupting something. Unsung hero.

 

[ShakyTheMohel]

Missing their 2 starting CBs in Reed and Sauce who may be #1 and #5-6 in the NFL against Hurts/Brown. Insane performance today.

My favorite guy on D after Sauce is Jermaine Johnson. He is an absolute pest. He's ALWAYS disrupting something. Unsung hero.

I agree on Johnson...he was all over the place. Huff was disruptive again also. Rotating in D-Lineman has made the defense very tough in the second half of games.

Weird game...both teams were down starters in the secondary, but the dlines were so good, the quarterbacks couldn't take advantage of the backups.