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Which items you can not buy right now

  • Mask

    Votes: 32 41.6%

  • Toilet Paper/ Face Tissue

    Votes: 45 58.4%

  • Can Foods

    Votes: 2 2.6%

  • Hand Sanitizer

    Votes: 53 68.8%

  • Rice/ Flour/ Instant Noodle

    Votes: 7 9.1%

  • Eggs

    Votes: 4 5.2%

  • Milk/ Cheese

    Votes: 2 2.6%

  • Meats/ Frozen foods

    Votes: 6 7.8%

  • Bread/ Cookie/ Potato Chip

    Votes: 1 1.3%

  • Others (Please specify)

    Votes: 8 10.4%
  • Total voters
    77
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I've been able to find most food items still, a bit random what is picked over from one trip to the grocery store to the next. Rice definitely is harder to come by. Down to basically instant rice. But I did score a 5 lb. bag of jasmine rice yesterday. I've never bought it in that quantity before, but it was that or nothing.
 
Hope said:
80-90% of people who test positive for the coronavirus exhibit zero/ mild symptoms. 80,000 Americans died from the flu last year. Sorry, but I don't want to be quarantined for another 2-3 months. And if it makes anyone feel better, let me add the comforting phrase, that my governor likes to use, 'we're all in this together! (yes, I'm just a heartless meanie).
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Hope, I hear you and understand your point of view. Many of us here are seniors and don’t have an immune system that could successfully fight off a bout with this virus. Speaking for myself and my wife, if we have to remain quarantined for 2-3 more months to survive this pandemic, we will.

Thousands of people have died and many more will die. I don’t want to be one of them. November will come, and the start of basketball season. I want to be here when it does. I told my 30's something neighbor just today that because people in proximity to my age are dying for various reasons EVERYDAY, I don’t take tomorrow for granted anymore.

I’ve lost over 50% of my high school class to date. A family man at my church died this week due to prostate cancer. He was 13 years younger than me.

Yes, we are all in this together, but we will leave this earth the same way we came, alone. They don’t make caskets for two. Life is very precious, don’t take it for granted.
 
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noirwestern said:
For some odd reason distilled water is very hard to come by. Tastes awful, not sure what else it's used for besides cpap machines but apparently it's liquid treasure.
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I couldn’t find any either in 4 different stores. I finally found some at a drug store.
 
Hope said:
I don't want our economy to grind to a halt, and as a young and healthy individual, I want to return to work so that our economy remains strong and vibrant. But 2-3 more months of this would be economic suicide.
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Even the young and vibrant can die from this junk and, as importantly, they can transmit it to others to continue the chain reaction. There is no good solution here. There is going to be pain any way you slice it but it'll be a zillion times worse if people don't stay away from one another. The virus isn't going away so until both drugs to fight it and a vaccine to prevent are created there is no getting back to normal. There is no economy if tens of thousands are sick and/or dying due to interacting with one another.
 
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The number of deaths in the US doubled in two days (1000-2000), at that rate of increase, 2000 will die two days from now and 4000 in another two days and 8000 in another 2 days and 16000 in another two days - that would be 30,000 deaths in the next 10 days - not 6 months, not even 2 weeks.

No idea if we have slowed the spread yet, but that is a progression that would devastate our hospital system and rather than slow the rate, when you overwhelm the hospitals death rates will increase as they have in Italy Spain and France.

And what is already happening to NYC police officers is already happening in hospitals - 12% of NYPD is in quarantine, and they are not spending 12 hour shifts surrounded by covid19 patients.

And here are the current CDC numbers for ages 20 - 54:
  • CDC covers one huge 20-44 age range in its report, but here’s what we know about that group: 14.3 percent hospitalized, 2 percent in the ICU, and 0.1 percent fatality rate.
  • For people 45 to 54, the CDC reports 21.2 percent have been hospitalized, 5.4 percent were put in the ICU, and 0.5 percent fatality rate.
The hospitalization rate reaches 30+% over 75 with with 10+% ICU and 4+% death. An average rate of hospitalization for flu is 1.4% with a death rate of 0.1% and it is spread over 6 months.

Right now we have 100,000 known cases - if that 20-44 year age group was a national average, then we are currently at an additional 14,300 additional hospital beds needed and 2000 additional ICUs, and if we get to 1,000,000 cases we would need 143,000 hospital beds and 20,000 ICUs. But the case counts right now are heavily weighted to patients entering hospitals already because most of the testing is still being done with people at hospitals on arrival, so the current demand in NYC and New Orleans, and Detroit and Seattle is much higher than the 'average' numbers.

Hospitals during flu season do not create temporary morgues as they are at various hospitals already. This disease spreads faster than flu and is 10x more deadly than flu. That is the reason people are trying to slow the spread.
 
Hope said:
The CDC estimates that from 1 OCT 2019—21 MAR 2020 ( my math says that's less than 6 months) there were between 24,000—62,000 flu deaths. If anyone is in the high-risk category, they should ALL self-quarantine themselves—makes sense, don't you think? You do want them to be safe and protected, right?

Our economy has taken a vicious hit, and thousands of small businesses have closed their doors because of the government 'lock down.' And tens of thousands have lost their jobs because of those shutdowns, and many will not have the money to pay the rent or make their monthly mortgage payment; let alone the myriad other bills such as car payments, utilities, etc. I have friends in the restaurant industry who are now s*** out of luck because of alarmist governors who feel they must 'do something' no matter what the consequences. I don't want these people to bear the brunt of hostile, economic decisions. I don't want our economy to grind to a halt, and as a young and healthy individual, I want to return to work so that our economy remains strong and vibrant. But 2-3 more months of this would be economic suicide.

Please take a look at 'I, Pencil: the movie. The United States depends to a large extent on the transportation of materials (yes, please give a thumbs-up to a trucker the next time you see her driving her rig along the highway). Let's work together with a sane, rational plan and we will all be the better for it.
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You failed to answer my question. How many people have to die before you consider this problem serious enough to do something about? The Spanish Flu killed 675,000 Americans. Is that what you’re hoping for. But that epidemic was clearly worse in your value system because many of the people who died were young, hard working Americans.

This virus basically hits old people and those that have preexisting conditions the hardest, people that evidently are expendable to some for the sake of the economy. That would include many of the old folks here on the Boneyard. So let me quote Governor Cuomo and add a thought of my own. “My mother is not expendable. Your mother is not expendable.” None of my friends here on the Boneyard are expendable.
 
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noirwestern said:
For some odd reason distilled water is very hard to come by. Tastes awful, not sure what else it's used for besides cpap machines but apparently it's liquid treasure.
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We use distilled water in a portable humidifier during the winter. We typically use a gallon or two a week. It disappeared for a while but now seems to be available. No idea why it's in such demand.
The latest product to disappear from store aisles is bread flour and yeast.
 
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Hope - have you read any of the personal accounts of E.R. doctors or nurses? Do you understand what is happening in hospitals now? This isn't about CV9 only - also about every other need for hospital care. Like this is really bad timing for a broken bone or a heart attack or a bad asthma attack. Also maybe check out emergency responders. This is no way comparable to seasonal flu.
 
JordyG said:
Bleach. Large containers cannot be found.
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I saw loads of bleach at my Lowes last week. Maybe call there?

The most frustrating thing I can’t find is yeast. I bake a lot in the summers when I’m out of school, and was hoping to make a few different breads while I’m stuck at home. No dice.
 
Argonaut said:
I saw loads of bleach at my Lowes last week. Maybe call there?

The most frustrating thing I can’t find is yeast. I bake a lot in the summers when I’m out of school, and was hoping to make a few different breads while I’m stuck at home. No dice.
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My wife is also a wonderful baker. We spent a week searching for flour at several supermarkets. Finally, we found one last bag of flour on the bottom shelf, partially hidden in the back. It felt like we just hit the lottery.
 
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vtcwbuff said:
We have been baking our own bread for several years. We're down to 1/2 bag of bread flour and no yeast.
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Try ordering online from Walmart or Target. Some convenience stores or CVS stores have groceries,too
 
A player my daughter coached, had 8 of her family members test positive. 2 are in the hospital. The player is being tested now. Although my daughter hasn’t been around her for about 3 weeks, I old her to call the doc and see if she should get tested. Her answer.... eh we’ll see.
 
HuskyNan said:
Try ordering online from Walmart or Target. Some convenience stores or CVS stores have groceries,too
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I just did a quick check on line and Walmart has no bread flour listed and a search for yeast returned several hits for Monistat7. I've checked Amazon - same results. Fortunately, bread shelves at local supermarkets are stocked though I'm not a fan of most of what they offer and I miss the smell of baking bread.
 
Went to the Walmart neighborhood grocery store to pick up the essentials.... bread, milk, cherry-vanilla coke.... happy to see there was plenty of water.... milk, eggs, bleach, bread.... but no paper products at all.... soap was in limited supply..... didnt even bother to look for rubbing alcohol.


Argonaut said:
I saw loads of bleach at my Lowes last week. Maybe call there?

The most frustrating thing I can’t find is yeast. I bake a lot in the summers when I’m out of school, and was hoping to make a few different breads while I’m stuck at home. No dice.
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Well remember.... your favorite (?) duke fan in the triad is also a big fan of bread and other baked goods :);):rolleyes::cool::p:D
 
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triaddukefan said:
Well remember.... your favorite (?) duke fan in the triad is also a big fan of bread and other baked goods :);):rolleyes::cool::p:D
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If I get stir crazy enough, the baked goods fairy may make a trip through the state. Most of my friends live in Winston-Salem or between Salisbury and Albemarle — I could add a stop. I’ll keep you posted.
 
COVID-19 PATIENTS CAN CARRY CORONAVIRUS AFTER SYMPTOMS HAVE RESOLVED AND COULD INFECT OTHERS, SAY SCIENTISTS -

The researchers studied 16 COVID-19 patients from China who had experienced mild symptoms. They were released from the Treatment Center of PLA General Hospital in Beijing between January 28 and February 9, having tested negative for the new coronavirus at least twice. Half of the participants had the virus in their systems after their symptoms had gone.

www.newsweek.com

COVID-19 Patients Can Carry Coronavirus after Symptoms Have Resolved: Study

The research involved 16 COVID-19 patients in China.
www.newsweek.com www.newsweek.com
 
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