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I started fresh this morning on VolNation, after 4 hours going through few threads, they are not taking any prisoners...not even Kelly Harper is safe in this one. I have to say though, I d


Sounds like Town Fair Tire commercial. :rolleyes:

You're a better person than me. If I started the first 4 hours of my day on VolNation, I'd be a basket case afterwards in serious need of medication and bed rest. I can't spend more than 4 minutes there.

Although I do enjoy watching them experience the misery, pain and frustration of losing and being upset. Especially losing to to UConn. Yesterday was a very good day. Today will be ever better. UConn Nation is very happy with yesterday's win over Tennessee. Zippity do dah. :D
 
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I think last nights game proved beyond a shadow of a doubt the amount of heart and fight these young Huskies have in them. Sometimes they looked like football players scrambling for a fumble going after loose balls, diving all over the floor. No matter how great you are in high school Geno won't recruit you unless you are willing to do this.
 
My take - I believe the difference in this game was Geno. Tennessee has some very good players, UConn has some very good players, Tennessee has an average coach, UConn has the best coach in WBB and in my opinion coaching won this game.
While this game showed off Geno's coaching skills - changing line ups, inserting new defense on the fly, etc. - I hesitate criticizing TN coach's skill. While I cringe anytime I say a kind word about anything TN related, have watched several SEC women's games on TV and have to give Kelly credit for quickly rebuilding a terrible program. I watched the TN/UConn history evolve so understand this game's hype but its been many years since a barely ranked team wasn't blown out by UConn, particularly if the game was at UConn. TN is a young team with little upper classmen leadership but is competitive every game. Good young coach we likely will see a lot of in future.
 
Not much to add except I would like to point out that they held the orange people to 45 points! That's not bad, even if they were turning it over a lot given their size relative to the Huskies. The other important take away from me is that when the upper class men were struggling to score, the "kids" picked up the slack. That bodes well moving forward.
 
Tennessee looked like #16 in the first half and unranked in the second Typical young sqaud Fun to see how it comes together in the coming weeks.
The UCONN group that turned the game in the 2nd half was 2 freshmen 2 sophomores
 
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I keep thinking back to Megan’s pre-game interview where she stressed the team was going to refocus on coming together and playing for each other. That’s what seemed like happened last night when they got behind and shots weren’t falling and Liv was in early foul trouble. There was no DT there to say, “We ain’t losing this game!”, but it seemed like that kind of leadership was going on somewhere.

I also thought about when somebody reminded us the other day that Geno breaks them down until about this time in the season, then starts building them back up. I think we’re in the “building back up” mode now. Geno shifting from “strict, yelling daddy” coach to “We’re all in this together” mentor.
 
I confess I was one who was very skeptical that we could effectively press because of our team skill sets in general and depth in particular. Happy to be proven wrong although it might not work on a team with more under control guard play. I doubt we could do this against SC or OU over an extended time.
and I only see them pressing in the half-court, and sprung at certain times only. and I think it can work against the better teams.
 
Count the unforced turnovers and bricks thrown up with no pressure; you may change your opinion on the ugliness.
Don't forget if you're LV fan, you would say that that's way too many turnovers and more than the norm. I think we won with the margin victory about where we should've +/- a few points.
 
Just one more about VolNation. Some there actually believe is was pure genius by Geno to have UConn "play opossum" in first half...to sort of lull the LadyVols in a false sense of security. If they only knew what we know. :rolleyes:
 
But I hope on Monday she goes 0 for XX :)
What??? For shame on you!!!! I might require you give up that Avatar if you say such comments again! She can go 5-5; 10-10 or what ever as long as the "official" UConn team regains their shooting touch (as opposed to a "mostly UConn" National team ;)).
 
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We're talking about (and having fun with) the current state of unrest now taking place on VolNation. I'm admittedly guilty of being consumed with a overwhelming sense of schadenfreude at the moment. :D

Can you imagine for a moment the anarchy and the total state of chaos, political unrest and civil disorder that WILL ensue therein IF UConn has the stones (and the temerity) to go to Knoxville and pull out another win next year on their hallowed floor? :eek: If I'm Geno, THAT is one game I'm not looking forward to next year.

Kellie Harper would see just how "loyal" and fervent some of the "old guard" fans are, because after another loss to their "most hated" rivals, some of them would not only question her ability to coach, but may also call for her job.
 
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I still don't like the black uni thing. Stick with the traditional team colors (not grey either!) But, for now I have put away the gas can.
In his post game speech, Geno mentioned the reason they used black uni's was to auction them off for money toward the Pat Summit Foundation. Feel free to bid on them, buy one (or all) and do a video burning them...:rolleyes:
 
Don't forget if you're LV fan, you would say that that's way too many turnovers and more than the norm. I think we won with the margin victory about where we should've +/- a few points.
While the LV turnovers were high last night, turnovers are pretty much the norm for that team. Freshman star Horston has already committed 84 turnovers this season, or about 4.5 per game. That’s terrible, and it is symptomatic of how the team doesn’t take care of the ball.
 
We're talking about (and having fun with) the current state of unrest now taking place on VolNation. I'm admittedly guilty of being consumed with a overwhelming sense of schadenfreude at the moment. :D Can you imagine for a moment the anarchy and the total state of chaos, political unrest and civil disorder that WILL ensue therein IF UConn has the stones (and the temerity) to go to Knoxville and pull out another win next year? :eek:

Kellie Harper would see just how "loyal" and fervent some of them are, because after another loss to their "most hated" rivals, some of them would no doubt question her ability to coach, and may in turn call for her job.
What do you mean imagine? It’s already a W in my book. ;)
 
I'm glad that some of those most foul comments (targeting players' appearance, etc.) wouldn't be tolerated here. I frequent plenty of message boards that get nasty about other sports or topics. You wouldn't believe how vicious the world's largest women's tennis board can get unless you've seen it, for instance. But I don't feel any need to see it here.

That said...I gotta imagine that this board would be a pretty unpleasant place in its own way if we had lost that game 45 to 60. Just thinking about it...yeowtch. That is an ugly way to lose, with 9 more turnovers than made baskets.

No, the Boneyard would not be sanguine about that kind of result. Lots of locked threads and deleted posts in that case.
 
When the offense doesn’t produce, you need a good defense. With Anna and Aubrey starting second half we held Tennessee to 14 points. Nothing butt ugly about that. Repeat 14.

The defense was stellar. I'm talking offense. As Geno said in his presser a lot of good wide open shots did not drop. Lowest shooting percentage in living memory. This has to change or we are just pretenders this year.
 
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You're a better person than me. If I started the first 4 hours of my day on VolNation, I'd be a basket case afterwards. I can't spend more than 4 minutes there. Although I do enjoy watching them experience the misery, pain and frustration of losing and being upset. Especially losing to to UConn. Yesterday was a very good day. Today will be ever better. UConn Nation is very happy with yesterday's win over Tennessee. :D
Last time I looked, the UConn game thread on VolNation was approaching 1000 posts. Not sure there is that much to discuss about any game but gives indication on the focus this game had at Tenn.
 
Like some of you who have been posting, I went to the game last night and have a few observations that have not been noted yet, some significant, some not as much.
1. There were a lot of LV fans there, more than I would ever expect to wear that color to a game. All were very nice that I met.
2. Before the game, Geno and Kellie were talking quite a bit to each other and CD and Shea made efforts to hug and talk to Kellie as well. Nice to see.
3. TN led 26-18 at the 6:15 mark of the 2nd quarter (26 points in 13:45 minutes played) and only scored 19 points in 26:45 the rest of the game. The team on the floor was Aubrey, Anna, CW, CD and MW. They started the second half as well.
4. At the half, Geno had to do a Pat Foundation check presentation so he was animated talking to CD when the rest of the team went into the locker room. His finger was wagging up and down at CD and gestures to the Locker as if to say "tell the team that xxx and yyy and NOT ". This went on for a minute plus. They then did a nice check presentation of $10,000 from UConn to the Pat Summit Foundation where it was noted Geno was the first coach to donate to it when it was founded. Kellie Jolly Harper also took part in the ceremony.
5. UConn was late coming back onto the Floor with just over 2 minutes left of the intermission. Normally teams come out with 5 min left to do shooting.
6. The half time show was THE RED PANDA and her 8 foot Unicycle and bowl catching act! Pretty cool.
7. When Key picked up her 5th foul and left the game, KJH spent significant time talking to her, calming her down and calmly pointing and showing her on the floor items. That was nice to see and you did see Key calm down after that, nod her head and go to the bench.
8. While we have a really good freshman class coming in (understatement) and Tennessee does not, TN will have Zay Green back who is arguably their second best player after Davis. TN should be improved next year with her.
9. The post game pressers by both teams were well done. Please go watch them. KJH did not show disrespect to Aubrey. She could have noted her energy and what she did to her team on defense but that's quibbling. KJH did correctly note this team turns the ball over too much and needs to get better at that. Her presses are INFINITELY better than anything HOLLY ever did. Remember, this is not a Kellie team but a conglomerate of AAs that Holly put together regardless of chemistry or rationale. The team looked much better tonight than against Alabama. Davis did play well and I was impressed with her. That said, Meg is better.
Fun game, bad shooting, great hustle, great atmosphere.
Humbly submitted,
DefenseBB
 
Last time I looked, the UConn game thread on VolNation was approaching 1000 posts. Not sure there is that much to discuss about any game but gives indication on the focus this game had at Tenn.
One aspect of VolNation that is different than the BY, is that in game comments appear on the game thread, as opposed to the Chat page on the BY. Nevertheless, your observation is correct. LV fans appear to have an incredible amount to say about the game with our Huskies.

It reminds me of a comment by noted Cival War historian, Shelby Foote, from Mississippi, on the difference between the way that Northerners and Southerners viewed the war many years later. “When you win a war you go on about your life. When you lose a war it stays with you forever.”
 
Last time I looked, the UConn game thread on VolNation was approaching 1000 posts. Not sure there is that much to discuss about any game but gives indication on the focus this game had at Tenn.
Many of those posts were in game comments, many of which were derogatory jibes directed at virtually every Tennessee player.
 
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One aspect of VolNation that is different than the BY, is that in game comments appear on the game thread, as opposed to the Chat page on the BY. Nevertheless, your observation is correct. LV fans appear to have an incredible amount to say about the game with our Huskies.

It reminds me of a comment by noted Cival War historian, Shelby Foote, from Mississippi, on the difference between the way that Northerners and Southerners viewed the war many years later. “When you win a war you go on about your life. When you lose a war it stays with you forever.”
Having now lived in Alabama for 34 years, I can heartily attest to Mr. Foote's keen observation. The civil war is over and done in the North; but it continues on as a living ,breathing thing among many here in the Deep South.
 
Like some of you who have been posting, I went to the game last night and have a few observations that have not been noted yet, some significant, some not as much.
1. There were a lot of LV fans there, more than I would ever expect to wear that color to a game. All were very nice that I met.
2. Before the game, Geno and Kellie were talking quite a bit to each other and CD and Shea made efforts to hug and talk to Kellie as well. Nice to see.
3. TN led 26-18 at the 6:15 mark of the 2nd quarter (26 points in 13:45 minutes played) and only scored 19 points in 26:45 the rest of the game. The team on the floor was Aubrey, Anna, CW, CD and MW. They started the second half as well.
4. At the half, Geno had to do a Pat Foundation check presentation so he was animated talking to CD when the rest of the team went into the locker room. His finger was wagging up and down at CD and gestures to the Locker as if to say "tell the team that xxx and yyy and NOT ". This went on for a minute plus. They then did a nice check presentation of $10,000 from UConn to the Pat Summit Foundation where it was noted Geno was the first coach to donate to it when it was founded. Kellie Jolly Harper also took part in the ceremony.
5. UConn was late coming back onto the Floor with just over 2 minutes left of the intermission. Normally teams come out with 5 min left to do shooting.
6. The half time show was THE RED PANDA and her 8 foot Unicycle and bowl catching act! Pretty cool.
7. When Key picked up her 5th foul and left the game, KJH spent significant time talking to her, calming her down and calmly pointing and showing her on the floor items. That was nice to see and you did see Key calm down after that, nod her head and go to the bench.
8. While we have a really good freshman class coming in (understatement) and Tennessee does not, TN will have Zay Green back who is arguably their second best player after Davis. TN should be improved next year with her.
I have no idea who Zaay Green is but while Adam Amin was talking about her, the camera was on a TN player wearing a white shirt and wearing the diaper style uniform shorts. She was sitting on the left end of the bench. Adam said that Zaay tore her ACL in the second game of the season but this person was running along the bench after TN made a 3. She had no brace on and was moving with ease. Was this actually the person that Adam was speaking of?
 
Having had time to review the stats, it is apparent how our poor shooting affected the final score. Uconn had the advantage in turnovers, points in the paint, second chance points, fast breaks, and bench points. We even had more rebounds than a far taller Tennessee squad. And we had 10 points on free throws vs their 2 on a nearly identical number of fouls recorded. If we shoot better than 31.5 % this would have been the blowout so many Boneyarders expected.
 
If I recall, I saw somewhere that the 14 second half points scored by TN was the lowest for a half (maybe 2nd half only ?) in team history. Holly must be jealous. That was an attainable record. ;)
 
If that had been Crystal Dangerfield or CW the refs would have called the foul on them. It seems only the bigs get away with the undercutting. Liv went straight up and Horston kinda undercut.

In Stewie’s first year, ND got called for a foul in a similar situation. Stewie went up and someone backed her into the sideline. But the refs in that game were the best in the business.

Last night’s crew was bad but, as often happens, they were equal opportunity offenders.
 
I have no idea who Zaay Green is but while Adam Amin was talking about her, the camera was on a TN player wearing a white shirt and wearing the diaper style uniform shorts. She was sitting on the left end of the bench. Adam said that Zaay tore her ACL in the second game of the season but this person was running along the bench after TN made a 3. She had no brace on and was moving with ease. Was this actually the person that Adam was speaking of?
Zarielle Green is #10 on the 2018 HoopGurlz list and is a legitimate player. She averaged 26 min and 9.6 points on a dysfunction TN team last year.
 
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