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Yes, UConn is in a tough situation. Injuries happen during any season, but UConn's bench depth suffered considerably with 2 season-ending injuries. Regarding postponed vs forfeit, don't see how the BE can continue to ask UConn's opponents to adjust their schedules for UConn's sake. UConn can forfeit games and still win the BE.
I imagine that the BE rules state what can happen when the team doesn't have 7 medically cleared players available. And the definition of medically cleared includes being available to play and able to play for up to 30 minutes in the game. This is according to what the AD said.
 
Somehow my reply to Sun ended up in the section where his/her original comments are repeated. If someone can fix this please do. I really shouldn’t make posts from an iPhone at 3 AM.
80% of my posts are from my phone like this one.
 
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I imagine that the BE rules state what can happen when the team doesn't have 7 medically cleared players available. And the definition of medically cleared includes being available to play and able to play for up to 30 minutes in the game. This is according to what the AD said.
I read the 30 minutes as the AD's preference. But maybe there is a BE rule. Anyway, the problem is UConn's, and can't just continue to be shifted to their opponents. Or can it?
 
They both sound the same to me, she looks good in whats she is limited to. You don't go from not cleared for full practices to playing a week later with a knee injury. For reference it took Carolina and Dorka 2 weeks to be cleared for full practices and then to play. And thats for a thumb injury and neck stiffness.
OK. You can be the purveyor of doom & gloom. I’ll wait to hear what UConn has to say, not attempting to piece together a negative scenario based on a string of unrelated events such as Dorka’s broken finger 2 months ago.
 
OK. You can be the purveyor of doom & gloom. I’ll wait to hear what UConn has to say, not attempting to piece together a negative scenario based on a string of unrelated events such as Dorka’s broken finger 2 months ago.
You see my take as negative but I don’t think keeping Azzi out nor postponing another gsme
Is negative or bad. The more rest and recovery time the better. Not sure why everyone is rushing the girls back and calling it positive or optimistic.
 
One key point that is missing in this discussion. In order to play, UConn must have 7 scholarship players able to suit up.

As to Wednesday, let's wait and see what happens today.
 
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I know for me, I planned on going to the game on Wednesday and was taking the day off of work so any update on that game's status would be appreciated sooner rather than later. Is it critical or crucial that the public knows, of course not as the players health is paramount BUT a decision does have to be announced as it does impact a significant number of ticket holders.
 
One or two significant LSU defeats will quickly reset their ranking.
I’m very interested to watch their game against South Carolina on Feb 12, when the currently undefeated titans meet to decide SEC conference supremacy. Looking at their respective schedules, I don’t see any threats to the winning streak they are currently riding.
 
I’m very interested to watch their game against South Carolina on Feb 12, when the currently undefeated titans meet to decide SEC conference supremacy. Looking at their respective schedules, I don’t see any threats to the winning streak they are currently riding.
You must think poorly of Uconn to think they aren't even a potential threat to beat a team that could only pull out a 7 point victory of Mississippi St yesterday.
 
You see my take as negative but I don’t think keeping Azzi out nor postponing another gsme
Is negative or bad. The more rest and recovery time the better. Not sure why everyone is rushing the girls back and calling it positive or optimistic.
Recovery time and rest is defined by medical people trained and paid to make those decisions, not by fans from afar who are sharing opinions pulled from wherever. I never met a player in 60 years in the game who was helped by or wanted more of either when cleared by the people in the best position to make that determination.
 
You see my take as negative but I don’t think keeping Azzi out nor postponing another gsme
Is negative or bad. The more rest and recovery time the better. Not sure why everyone is rushing the girls back and calling it positive or optimistic.
Nobody is rushing anyone back. The injured players will play when they are cleared by the medical staff and they feel they are ready to play.
 
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Nobody is rushing anyone back. The injured players will play when they are cleared by the medical staff and they feel they are ready to play.
Which is what I've been saying. You seem to think an earlier clearance is better, I think a later clearance is better and also more realistic based on past data. We seem to mostly agree.
 
One key point that is missing in this discussion. In order to play, UConn must have 7 scholarship players able to suit up.

As to Wednesday, let's wait and see what happens today.
And each of those players must be available to play 30 minutes (or something to that effect)
 
Which is what I've been saying. You seem to think an earlier clearance is better, I think a later clearance is better and also more realistic based on past data. We seem to mostly agree.
Please don’t make assumptions about what I think. Neither you or I have any say on when these young ladies should be cleared to play, and that’s exactly how it should be. I reiterate that the determination on when these injured players return is up to the medical professionals along with the players themselves. Let’s leave it at that and wait to hear from the school on their status.
 
You must think poorly of Uconn to think they aren't even a potential threat to beat a team that could only pull out a 7 point victory of Mississippi St yesterday.
SC has beat all comers so far, and remain the unanimous number one ranked team in the country. UConn lost to Maryland and Notre Dame. Two teams that in my opinion are not nearly as good as SC.

The SC game is at the XL Center. I’m not sure UConn will hold serve and defend their home court. UConn will have to play their best game of the season, and limit their turnovers to single digits. I’m a realist. It’s not that I think poorly of UConn, I’m just going by what They are showing me.

Can UConn win? Yes if they limit their turnovers and play their best game to date. Geno won’t go more than 2 deep into his bench. That will put tremendous pressure on his starters. Keep in mind that SC does not fear UConn. UConn will get SC’s very best. A very limited bench, no room for error and a tendency to turn the ball over unforced against the best team in the country. Explain to me why I should be optimistic for a win here.
 
SC has beat all comers so far, and remain the unanimous number one ranked team in the country. UConn lost to Maryland and Notre Dame. Two teams that in my opinion are not nearly as good as SC.

The SC game is at the XL Center. I’m not sure UConn will hold serve and defend their home court. UConn will have to play their best game of the season, and limit their turnovers to single digits. I’m a realist. It’s not that I think poorly of UConn, I’m just going by what They are showing me.

Can UConn win? Yes if they limit their turnovers and play their best game to date. Geno won’t go more than 2 deep into his bench. That will put tremendous pressure on his starters. Keep in mind that SC does not fear UConn. UConn will get SC’s very best. A very limited bench, no room for error and a tendency to turn the ball over unforced against the best team in the country. Explain to me why I should be optimistic for a win here.
IMO, UConn’s chances hinge almost completely on the boards and whether they can get easy points. The conundrum they have is the best way to defensive rebound is to probably have Dorka and Edwards focus on boxing out and have the others crash for the ball but that precludes Uconn from pushing the ball which means playing half court against a very tough defense. So can Edwards and Dorka hold their own and keep SC 2nd chances to a minimum? If they can, IMO, Uconn has a very good chance.
As for TOs, I think as long as Uconn keeps them to mostly “dead” TOs i.e. ones that don’t lead to easy run outs but rather give Uconn a chance to set up their D, I don’t think they will be the factor many think they will be.
 
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The issue I have currently is how the NET currently does not seem to figure in RPI/SOS to arrive at the NET Rankings. LSU has a NET ranking of #2 (behind South Carolina) Looking at LSU's data below, does it make sense? (Data taken from WarrenNolan.com through games played on Sunday, 01-08-2023)
Women's NET has only two components: Adjusted Net Efficiency (which is sky high for LSU) and Team Value Index. Both of them take the opponents into account to some degree, but there is no exact formula and it's hard to tell how much LSU's weak schedule affects it. An undefeated team with a huge scoring margin is likely to have a high NET ranking even against a weaker schedule.


Women's NET
 
SC has beat all comers so far, and remain the unanimous number one ranked team in the country. UConn lost to Maryland and Notre Dame. Two teams that in my opinion are not nearly as good as SC.

The SC game is at the XL Center. I’m not sure UConn will hold serve and defend their home court. UConn will have to play their best game of the season, and limit their turnovers to single digits. I’m a realist. It’s not that I think poorly of UConn, I’m just going by what They are showing me.

Can UConn win? Yes if they limit their turnovers and play their best game to date. Geno won’t go more than 2 deep into his bench. That will put tremendous pressure on his starters. Keep in mind that SC does not fear UConn. UConn will get SC’s very best. A very limited bench, no room for error and a tendency to turn the ball over unforced against the best team in the country. Explain to me why I should be optimistic for a win here.
Uconn hasn't lost a game with Azzi though. And South Caroline has been taken to overtime and won multiple games against worse teams than Maryland and Notre Dame by single digits. To think they aren't even a threat to beat South Carolina at home, as you said in your original post, is insulting.

Unforced turnovers only started happening when we were decimated by injuries. If we aren't healthy, sure your post makes sense. But a healthy Uconn has no reason to fear South Carolina. There is no reason for you to optimistic that we are healthy though.


7 players isn't a very limited bench when you are putting in players capable of going off for 30 in. I'd take our top 7 against any top 7 in the country.
 
SC has beat all comers so far, and remain the unanimous number one ranked team in the country. UConn lost to Maryland and Notre Dame. Two teams that in my opinion are not nearly as good as SC.
South Carolina shot 30/22/58% against Mississippi State Sunday. They're going to be obliterated at XL if they do anything close to that against Connecticut. I like Connecticut's chances if they're back at full strength by then (they're 13-1 with Muhl and undefeated when Fudd was available the whole game).
 
South Carolina shot 30/22/58% against Mississippi State Sunday. They're going to be obliterated at XL if they do anything close to that against Connecticut. I like Connecticut's chances if they're back at full strength by then (they're 13-1 with Muhl and undefeated when Fudd was available the whole game).
SC shot 37% overall and 19% on 3’s, and 65% from the line in the NC game last year and Uconn lost by 15. SC is not a team to judge on shooting %, they win on defense and rebounding.
 
Uconn hasn't lost a game with Azzi though. And South Caroline has been taken to overtime and won multiple games against worse teams than Maryland and Notre Dame by single digits. To think they aren't even a threat to beat South Carolina at home, as you said in your original post, is insulting.

Unforced turnovers only started happening when we were decimated by injuries. If we aren't healthy, sure your post makes sense. But a healthy Uconn has no reason to fear South Carolina. There is no reason for you to optimistic that we are healthy though.


7 players isn't a very limited bench when you are putting in players capable of going off for 30 in. I'd take our top 7 against any top 7 in the country.

South Carolina has single-digit games this season against #2-ranked Stanford (5 pts in overtime), and against #8-ranked UCLA (9 pts), beyond their game with Mississippi State. The Gamecocks are 2nd in the nation behind only LSU in Scoring Margin thus far.

South Carolina did shoot poorly versus the Bulldogs, but we're also talking about an opponent with the nationally 12th-ranked Scoring Defense, 4th-ranked FG % Defense, and 7th-ranked 3-pt. FG % Defense thus far this season. They will be among the top 2-3 defenses the Gamecocks will have played against this regular season....
 
South Carolina has single-digit games this season against #2-ranked Stanford (5 pts in overtime), and against #8-ranked UCLA (9 pts), beyond their game with Mississippi State. The Gamecocks are 2nd in the nation behind only LSU in Scoring Margin thus far.

South Carolina did shoot poorly versus the Bulldogs, but we're also talking about an opponent with the nationally 12th-ranked Scoring Defense, 4th-ranked FG % Defense, and 7th-ranked 3-pt. FG % Defense thus far this season. They will be among the top 2-3 defenses the Gamecocks will have played against this regular season....
Every team has one or two WTF games at this time of year. See @visitingcock post fr this morning

 
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From the Courant article:

The team took Saturday off, with several of the players coming to Gampel Pavilion to watch the men’s victory over Creighton. They will practice Sunday, and their status will be evaluated day to day. In order to play their next scheduled game, at St. John’s on Wednesday, they will need to consider how much any returning players can safely play in their first game back.

“We can’t put our kids in a position where they come back from an injury and we’re expecting them to play 30-plus minutes a game,” Benedict said.

For instance, Fudd, who is close to returning, certainly would not be allowed to play 30 or more minutes in her return. Players coming out of concussion protocol must also be carefully monitored.....

According to the Hartford Courant at 4"22 the game vs. St. John's for Wednesday is a go. Yet to announce who is back as an eligible player,
 
Uconn hasn't lost a game with Azzi though. And South Caroline has been taken to overtime and won multiple games against worse teams than Maryland and Notre Dame by single digits. To think they aren't even a threat to beat South Carolina at home, as you said in your original post, is insulting.

Unforced turnovers only started happening when we were decimated by injuries. If we aren't healthy, sure your post makes sense. But a healthy Uconn has no reason to fear South Carolina. There is no reason for you to optimistic that we are healthy though.


7 players isn't a very limited bench when you are putting in players capable of going off for 30 in. I'd take our top 7 against any top 7 in the country.
I’m hoping for the best and a win against SC. Right now we don’t know how many of our players will be healthy enough to play and make significant contributions to the game. To think my post is insulting depends on how you perceive it. You think it is, so be it. I can assure you others will read it and not feel that way.

It’s going to be hard to beat SC with everyone healthy. SC more than likely will bring a full roster of healthy players when they come. I’m rooting and hoping for a win as much as any other UConn fan. But I‘m not going to short change or dismiss the fact that SC is the most dominant team in the country (right now). A lot can happen between now and Feb 12. SC is a BIG, well coached team. They are going to come here looking to make a statement. I sincerely hope they leave Hartford disappointed. We’ll see.

Nothing would please me more going forward than wins over Tennessee and SC. Basically run the table through the end of the season. Talk is cheap. Talking doesn’t get it done. Hoping doesn’t get it done. If we don’t win number 12 this year, wins over Tennessee and SC will still make me happy. Only 1 team is going to win the championship. I can accept the notion that this may not be our year. I think next year is.

Next year’s team will be deeper and just as talented (IMO). We lose a lot of talent and experience in Lou, Dorka and maybe Aubrey. No way to replace them. It just means that others will step up. They do every year.
 
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IMO, UConn’s chances hinge almost completely on the boards and whether they can get easy points. The conundrum they have is the best way to defensive rebound is to probably have Dorka and Edwards focus on boxing out and have the others crash for the ball but that precludes Uconn from pushing the ball which means playing half court against a very tough defense. So can Edwards and Dorka hold their own and keep SC 2nd chances to a minimum? If they can, IMO, Uconn has a very good chance.
As for TOs, I think as long as Uconn keeps them to mostly “dead” TOs i.e. ones that don’t lead to easy run outs but rather give Uconn a chance to set up their D, I don’t think they will be the factor many think they will be.
Points, minimum turnovers and winning the rebounding war (the battle of the boards), I believe will be the deciding factors. Dawn will use more of her reserves than Geno will, helping to keep her starters (and their legs) fresh for the 4th quarter. I can see each of our starters playing 34+ minutes.
 
South Carolina shot 30/22/58% against Mississippi State Sunday. They're going to be obliterated at XL if they do anything close to that against Connecticut. I like Connecticut's chances if they're back at full strength by then (they're 13-1 with Muhl and undefeated when Fudd was available the whole game).
I hope you’re right. Nothing would please me more than a UConn win over SC. Let’s make it happen!! :)
 
SC shot 37% overall and 19% on 3’s, and 65% from the line in the NC game last year and Uconn lost by 15. SC is not a team to judge on shooting %, they win on defense and rebounding.
Agreed completely. Uconn has overcome its turnover problem with shooting efficiency thus far. That won’t work against SCar if we don’t neutralize the rebounding. You can only rely on efficiency to overcome so many areas of the game. Even more difficult against a good defensive team.

The keys to me are how well we take care of the ball and rebound. I like our chances a lot if overall fga and fta are even. But that won’t be easy to achieve.

Should be a great matchup of contrasting styles of both teams are healthy.
 
Points, minimum turnovers and winning the rebounding war (the battle of the boards), I believe will be the deciding factors. Dawn will use more of her reserves than Geno will, helping to keep her starters (and their legs) fresh for the 4th quarter. I can see each of our starters playing 34+ minutes.
Having Aubrey available will help immensely with rebounding.
 
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