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Record, with appearances in parens.

UConn 7-1 (2)
Louisville 2-1 (1 LOL)
Memphis 1-1 (1)
Cincy 1-3* (4)
Temple 0-1 (1)
Tulsa 0-1 (1)
SMU 0-2 (2)

*still playing in 2017

Aren't we 7-2 or am I missing something?
 
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I want to like this, but as a Knicks fan in the mid-90's, I just can't.
 
It took all of one half of one tourney game for SMU's lack of depth to kill them. A couple of guys get four fouls and they lost all rhythm.
 
Aren't we 7-2 or am I missing something?

This is 4th year we're in AAC, right? We won it all in 14 (6-0), missed in 15 (NIT, lost 1st round), went 1-1 in 16, missed in 17.
 
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I don't mean to be an AAC homer, as if there is such a thing. I really am bullish on SMU. Does anyone else think they can win the East and potentially win it all. I think they are a match up nightmare and have only lost 4 games all season. 3 in the beginning before they were playing "positionless" and then one loss Jan 2 at Cinci. I dont see Baylor, Duke or Villanova beating them. Kansas to me is the one team that when they fire on all cylinders can beat anyone. That said, Kansas has internal issues with Josh Jackson. I know I am a homer and crazy but at 40-1. I really want to thrown down 5k and not tell the wife.
Sure hope you didn't throw down 5k
 
You think the committee doesn't look beyond the first round games? And yes, they were "out to get" SMU, because they are a small school from a non power conference without many fans. Otherwise, they would have gotten a 3 seed with a game against New Mexico State and an easy trip to second round, like all the other AP #11 teams get every year.

It's already been discussed at length in at least two other threads. SMU has nobody to blame but SMU for their seed. They played an OOC schedule which consisted of the Little Sisters of the Poor NSEW, and along the way they lost to one of those (Boise State). Their two best OOC opponents were losses.

AAC teams play in a crap conference. That's a given. You play a largely cupcake OOC schedule like the Ponies did and you're not gonna get cut any slack on selection Sunday, because you won't be rewarded by mowing down a bunch of AAC nobodies. Maybe SMU deserved a five seed, but a three would have been preposterous. As they showed today, they would have gone home after one or two games either way. Lucky for them it wasn't a long trip to Tulsa.

You're correct that the AAC gets no respect from the committee, but after looking at the results from the past few tournaments, can you honestly say it deserves any?
 
Now that you are healthy again, I can retort properly, without feeling like a heel.

You are both idiots.

I'm healthy wealthy and wise
up yours
 
I wanted SMU to win more because when they play well they're fun to watch at both ends. They looked to be in total control for most of the game as if they could turn it on and off at will. Unfortunately the last time they turned it off and on it wouldn't go back into gear.
 
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SMU wrecked my bracket but anyone who doesn't think they're good is on meth. Good team that lost to another decent squad. End of story.
 
They aren't good. They played almost no one outside of the AAC and had average results.

The AAC blows. It does a disservice to these teams. They are probably going crazy about it too. Cincy will lose on Sunday.


SMU wrecked my bracket but anyone who doesn't think they're good is on meth. Good team that lost to another decent squad. End of story.
 
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I think I will count how many times again today we say this "conference blows" "sucks" "is terrible" "awful" or anything to that point. I'm not sure we can have as many as yesterday but I'm guessing with repeat offenders we have a shot to break the record?

Really?
 
Knock out games you need more than 6 players and need a player or two who can get you buckets
 
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You gotta at least hold serve in the tourney and beat lower seeded teams. SMU's been a dominant team within the AAC the last 3 years and have gone down twice now 1st round as a 6 seed. (yes, I know, bad goaltending call vs UCLA). Still. Despite how they do next year they won't get respect until they can make a tourney run. Or at least win a game. ONE game.
 
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I think I will count how many times again today we say this "conference blows" "sucks" "is terrible" "awful" or anything to that point. I'm not sure we can have as many as yesterday but I'm guessing with repeat offenders we have a shot to break the record?

Really?
This is a young conference, and at its start was UConn, Cincy and Louisville, and flotsam, and Louisville is gone. Every other program is a building from near scratch job. Some will be successful, some won't.

The question isn't how bad is the conference now, but where can teams like Memphis, Temple, Tulsa, UCF, USF, Houston and SMU get to, and how quickly. Larry Brown built up SMU, but wasn't long term at his age and with his history. Jankovich will have to keep it going (and learn that depth and coaching in the last minute of close games are important). But there is talent in Houston and Dallas, Memphis has Memphis, Temple has Philly and New Jersey, Wichita State can be successful so there's no reason Tulsa can't, and there's plenty of talent in Florida. If you can coach and recruit at all you should be able to build reasonably strong teams in all of these locations.

Should. Regardless, though, with our pedigree we have to be the flagship. I think we take two steps up next year, and are poised for a big year in 18-19. It'll help every other team in the league if we can do that.
 
This is a young conference, and at its start was UConn, Cincy and Louisville, and flotsam, and Louisville is gone. Every other program is a building from near scratch job. Some will be successful, some won't.

The question isn't how bad is the conference now, but where can teams like Memphis, Temple, Tulsa, UCF, USF, Houston and SMU get to, and how quickly. Larry Brown built up SMU, but wasn't long term at his age and with his history. Jankocich will have to keep it going (and learn that depth and coaching in the last minute of close games are important). But there is talent in Houston and Dallas, Memphis has Memphis, Temple has Philly and New Jersey, Wichita State can be successful so there's no reason Tulsa can't, and there's plenty of talent in Florida. If you can coach and recruit at all you should be able to build reasonably strong teams in all of these locations.

Should. Regardless, though, with our pedigree we have to be the flagship. I think we take two steps up next year, and are poised for a big year in 18-19.

Yeah well stated Doc. Here's my take, it's not that good of a conference - basically Conference USA. And yeah we should be dominating if indeed that's the level.

I doubt all the programs will rise and it seems there's a couple key programs going the wrong way by the numbers (minus us) like Memphis and Temple. But they both have a chance and the support for basketball to take positive steps. Not sure on the others although I expect Sampson, if he stays, to keep UH up there. Tulsa, UCF, USF, Tulane - who knows? Yankovich should be able to keep the Mustangs near the top as well as Cronin who will always be there.

It's up to the UConn brand to potentially help the lower tier get better, kind of like what GTown, Cuse did for JC and our own Huskies in the late 80's. SMU and Cincy are not UConn as far as recognition as we know so now it's time to step up. Agree with most everyone, next year is a key year to make some positive steps moving in that direction, we will see!
 
Maybe, but bigger issue is AAC wants to be a football conference, even though it's equally a joke and awful at that too.

The whole AAC had a total of 3 4* football recruits. Alabama, UGA, Mich, LSU, OU each had more than 15.

The AAC is a wasteland. Did you see the crowds in Hartford last week, even for the UConn games?

It may be a young conference but what does that have to do with programs that have been around for decades like Houston, Temple, Tulsa, UConn, Cincy, etc.

Also, anyone see where Houston lost to Akron in the 1st round of the NIT.

Are people still thinking that was a quality win last Friday?

I do agree UConn can be very good in 2018-19 if everyone stays (JA, TL) and they get good play at the 4-5 with the combination of players they have.

This is a young conference, and at its start was UConn, Cincy and Louisville, and flotsam, and Louisville is gone. Every other program is a building from near scratch job. Some will be successful, some won't.

The question isn't how bad is the conference now, but where can teams like Memphis, Temple, Tulsa, UCF, USF, Houston and SMU get to, and how quickly. Larry Brown built up SMU, but wasn't long term at his age and with his history. Jankovich will have to keep it going (and learn that depth and coaching in the last minute of close games are important). But there is talent in Houston and Dallas, Memphis has Memphis, Temple has Philly and New Jersey, Wichita State can be successful so there's no reason Tulsa can't, and there's plenty of talent in Florida. If you can coach and recruit at all you should be able to build reasonably strong teams in all of these locations.

Should. Regardless, though, with our pedigree we have to be the flagship. I think we take two steps up next year, and are poised for a big year in 18-19. It'll help every other team in the league if we can do that.
 
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I think I will count how many times again today we say this "conference blows" "sucks" "is terrible" "awful" or anything to that point. I'm not sure we can have as many as yesterday but I'm guessing with repeat offenders we have a shot to break the record?

Really?

Why torture yourself man? What's the benefit? Go play an ice cold round of golf or something instead.
 
Why torture yourself man? What's the benefit? Go play an ice cold round of golf or something instead.

I was kidding but golf's not in the picture until at least next week and that sucks when the Huskies aren't dancing. May need to head further south.

Anyway, I can't count that high!
 
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I think I will count how many times again today we say this "conference blows" "sucks" "is terrible" "awful" or anything to that point. I'm not sure we can have as many as yesterday but I'm guessing with repeat offenders we have a shot to break the record?

Really?

"Yeah well stated Doc. Here's my take, it's not that good of a conference - basically Conference USA. And yeah we should be dominating if indeed that's the level."

I'm confused
 
After raising program's expectations, SMU must learn from March misses to make run at Sweet Sixteen next year | SportsDay


TULSA, Okla. -- Tim Jankovich stood near the entrance of SMU’s locker room at the BOK Center on Friday afternoon, hoping what happened to the Mustangs didn’t take away from the rest of their season.

Prior to No. 6 SMU’s 66-65 loss to No. 11 Southern California in the first round of the NCAA tournament, the American Athletic Conference champions were on a 16-game winning streak and set the school record for most victories in a season.

“We’re a bucket away from even extending this story,” Jankovich said Friday.

For years, SMU’s story didn’t include playing in mid-March. The objective now shifts from making it to the NCAA tournament to lasting multiple rounds

And experiencing the pressures in March might help the returning Mustangs get over that hump next season.

The Mustangs have proven they can consistently reach the postseason. Now SMU has to show it can do more than that the next time it’s playing in the middle of March.
 

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