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Seton Hall Post Game Thread

Fishy said:
He’s playing about 35 a game right now - about ten of those minutes will be going to Clingan when I become coach.
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Wait, does that mean Sanogos minutes aren’t changing under your leadership?
 
USNavyDog said:
Sanogo missing that layup looked like he choked...like maybe he was nervous and afraid to miss such a simple elementary play. Also, why didn't he just dunk it instead, he didn't seem to be that heavily guarded.
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Because he can’t dunk
 
You're spotted a 14 point lead to play 20 minutes. A lot has to go wrong to blow it and that includes the bs charge call on Newton. No doubt about it.
 
ChocRaisins said:
No one on this team is a “dog”. No one can sack up, grab the ball and make a play. Every other year that’s a guard. We don’t have that guy. Soft is the bottom line.
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Actually, Joey did it in the Georgetown game.

Yes, he's an unlikely choice for what you wrote, but it's also something that happened and can be pointed to. And if you find the implications of that disturbing, that's the next conversation to have. I certainly did write this to contradict you. You are much more right than wrong.

At this point, we simply gotta start where we are.
 
Excalibur said:
Now this I can get behind. The only decent point guard was an undersized transfer.

BTW, where are all the people that were convinced that Newton was better than Cole? With Cole, we win at least two of the five, probably more.
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Wow. Imagine this team if Cole stayed… or even if Gaff stayed. Hate all you want but he was a point guard…

It always bothered me that Hurley thought he could rebuild the backcourt from scratch — starting with zero guards — during the offseason. It just seemed reckless, like poor risk management. I thought I was dead wrong when the season started.
 
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No one will want to hear this but 5 or 6 BE teams are about equal and can knock each other off any given game. Our guard play was so much better early OOC but now we know.
 
GotNets? said:
Wow. Imagine this team if Cole stayed… or even if Gaff stayed. Hate all you want but he was a point guard…

It always bothered me that Hurley thought he could rebuild the backcourt from scratch — starting with zero guards — during the offseason. It just seemed reckless, like poor risk management. I thought I was dead wrong when the season started.
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Gaffney was not good. I don't know why this is even brought up.
 
GotNets? said:
No one ever said good. I said he was a PG.
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This what ya want?
 
MrSec224 said:
Thats exactly it. When you turn it over 12 times, your bigs forget how to control the paint on both ends, you cant hit a gimmie, your conference player of the year refuses to dunk, you have your best scorer taking an abysmal deep 3 while up a possession, you dont have Clingan in to grab the most important rebound of the game, Sanogo refuses to foul up 1 with 5 seconds to play and allows a guy to get a layup….

But yeah the refs are the reason we lost. People need to look in the mirror and realize this team is underperforming in every aspect of the game. If you dont think thats the issue then nothing can be said to prove you wrong. We let every opponent play the style they want and we have not proven we have one iota of heart in the last 3 weeks
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For the record, I hate that I Like this post.

I'd much rather just dismiss it by criticizing the sarcastic sentence about the refs, and calling out the exaggeration of "one iota of heart."
 
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Conndog said:
I also couldn't stand listening to Tim Brando. He is really subpar as announcers go.
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He was downright insufferable and sounding senile getting at least 5 calls wrong when it was obvious
 
kansashusky said:
A lot of people claim our coaching staff can recruit talent, but how can you say that given what we are watching?
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First time I’m questioning this myself. In his 5 years here who has he recruited that we’d actually want to see starting for us in a final four game? I’d argue Bouk and Clingan are it, maybe Cole...
BarkingDog said:
Still waiting for Hurley to convince me he’s the right guy.
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I was prob in the top 1% of Hurley supporters before we lost 5 in 6 and became the most underachieving team in school history. Now I’m firmly in the camp of if he doesn’t win a game this march, then I don’t care what he may or may not be able to do with next year’s #3 class, because as explained above, it prob won’t be as good as advertised.
 
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GotNets? said:
Wow. Imagine this team if Cole stayed… or even if Gaff stayed. Hate all you want but he was a point guard…

It always bothered me that Hurley thought he could rebuild the backcourt from scratch — starting with zero guards — during the offseason. It just seemed reckless, like poor risk management. I thought I was dead wrong when the season started.
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Gaffney is a smaller, worse version of Newton.
 
GotNets? said:
Yeah not very inspiring — especially those two no shows — but decent assist/TO. Anyway, rag on it but we need trustworthy hands. It’s terrifying watching the ball come up the court right now.
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Diarra has earned more playing time. I trust him more than anyone else.

Can’t believe I actually typed that.
 
Hans Sprungfeld said:
For the record, I hate that I Like this post.

I'd much rather just dismiss it by criticizing the sarcastic sentence about the refs, and calling out the exaggeration of "one iota of heart."
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Find me the lie
 
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HuskyFich said:
You think during the game Luke Murray is thinking to himself with 3 minutes left in a one possession game… “what did Hurley plan for here?”

Luke was responsible for subs, Luke was responsible for defensive scheme changes. Luke was responsible for keeping Diarra on the bench too much tonight, and Clingan on the bench for the final defensive possession.

Hurley is responsible for the team, but not for the outcome tonight.
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Why do you think Diarra should play more. He had 2 points, 1 assist and took 2 horrible 3 point shots in 15 minutes. And he should play more.also committed 4 fouls in 15 minutes.
 
Drfla said:
Why do you think Diarra should play more. He had 2 points, 1 assist and took 2 horrible 3 point shots in 15 minutes. And he should play more.also committed 4 fouls in 15 minutes.
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Tell me who else pushes the ball and initiates ball movement?

His defense intensity alone garners more minutes.

But we’re choosing between imperfect pieces here, there’s isn’t a clear answer to the PG woes
 
JMick said:
this team has lost any semblance of the chemistry and resolve it had before conference play. Everyone needs to do some soul searching.
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Each game gets tighter for them to win too. Winning this by a point or two would have been good for these guys. I’ve never witnessed anything like we’re seeing right now. Alleyne not playing much may say something too though ,I’m irresponsibly guessing here. I’d almost say take the next days to just watch film and shoot around real easy like, cause we looked totally labotomised(?). I feel the pressure these guys have. It’s toxic.
 
deedougie said:
How can you not play one single possession of zone in the second half? Seton Hall is an incredibly weak team and we let them hang around and eventually steal the game. That was an absolute embarrassment.
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Everyone realizes Tom Moore was calling the defense tonight right? He’s a maestro. UConn legend on the bench. Why wouldn’t he zone?
 
bendm said:
First time I’m questioning this myself. In his 5 years here who has he recruited that we’d actually want to see starting for us in a final four game? I’d argue Bouk and Clingan are it, maybe Cole...

I was prob in the top 1% of Hurley supporters before we lost 5 in 6 and became the most underachieving team in school history. Now I’m firmly in the camp of if he doesn’t win a game this march, then I don’t care what he may or may not be able to do with next year’s #3 class, because as explained above, it prob won’t be as good as advertised.
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Who says that team stays at #3? We keep this up we may be facing a 2016 situation and that scares me cause the last guy at least got us a ring and conference title in 16.
 
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