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Seton Hall Post Game Thread

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After Newton sunk a jumper to make it 62-57 at 6:54, here's what followed:
Hawk missed 3
Sanogo missed jumper
Karaban missed 3
Hawk missed 3
Sanogo missed a dunk
Karaban missed 3

Meantime Newton got to line twice and made all 4 FTs.

Three possessions ended with TOs (Jax, Netwon, DC).

Make of that what you will, but whatever conclusion you come to, it would be hard to pin the collapse on Newton.
 
After Newton sunk a jumper to make it 62-57 at 6:54, here's what followed:
Hawk missed 3
Sanogo missed jumper
Karaban missed 3
Hawk missed 3
Sanogo missed a dunk
Karaban missed 3

Meantime Newton got to line twice and made all 4 FTs.

Three possessions ended with TOs (Jax, Netwon, DC).

Make of that what you will, but whatever conclusion you come to, it would be hard to pin the collapse on Newton.
He played better when he wasn’t force feeding the ball to Sanogo or Sanogo wasn’t coming out to the three point line to get the ball
 
He played better when he wasn’t force feeding the ball to Sanogo or Sanogo wasn’t coming out to the three point line to get the ball
He played his best game in a while. But he did force feed a lot, and can’t move the ball up the court with much speed unless he has an open lane.

And then he got called for that ridiculous charge when he did drive.

Overall, very happy with him tonight even though his TOS were boneheaded
 
He played his best game in a while. But he did force feed a lot, and can’t move the ball up the court with much speed unless he has an open lane.

And then he got called for that ridiculous charge when he did drive.

Overall, very happy with him tonight even though his TOS were boneheaded
That charge call was horrendous
 
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Now this I can get behind. The only decent point guard was an undersized transfer.

BTW, where are all the people that were convinced that Newton was better than Cole? With Cole, we win at least two of the five, probably more.

With Cole we'd be undefeated, but he wasn't staying for a 6th year of college.
 
He played his best game in a while. But he did force feed a lot, and can’t move the ball up the court with much speed unless he has an open lane.

And then he got called for that ridiculous charge when he did drive.

Overall, very happy with him tonight even though his TOS were boneheaded
A fair and balanced critique.
 
Badly constructed team, with no Alphas anywhere.
Dre is becoming a liability. We badly need leadership. Speechless.
Not sure about "badly constructed team," but everything else resonates.

3 years ago in January, there was no leader. Further, the team looked like it had no smart or composed players.

I suggested Whaley was the only possibility, simply because he wasn't doing stupid stuff and he cared. He assumed the role because nobody else would. And thus began his most unlikely rise.

Then Vital played better and with greater control, and Bouknight developed into a second semester freshman, and we all felt pretty hopeful about post-season possibilities before COVID shut things down.

We're in that spot now.

NONE of 'the big 3' are playing with leadership, smarts, composure, maturity. They all have skills.

Diarra & Alleyne, in that order, aren't up for serious consideration, but Hassan has improved his contribution is some valuable areas.

Alex has survived his Big East baptism by fire, but needs to get stronger. Now Donovan is in the midst of his painful growth spurt. They're both coming through, but they are maturing freshman, and they aren't going to be the leaders.

Tonight, Newton actually showed some improvement over recent games, but he is still much more timid than we want & need. He lost out on the offensive foul call, and he got fouled later in the game as he drove and was too slow to get to tge basket, but he actually got a solid pass off to Alex whose quite decent 3-ball shot did not go in. It might have won the game.

A bit earlier, Joey had teamed with Donovan for 2, and then sunk his own 3, but then the starters came back in and couldn't get it done.

The job is open. Somebody has to claim it.

The coaching staff isn't going to fill the hole. Things are currently quite weird and, of course, dismaying.

The spate of one-word descriptions that kicked off this thread is very telling.

Things could get better, but the necessary leadership cannot come from sloppiness, lack of discipline, or low energy. And it can't be a hot potato.
Who wants it?
Anybody?
Please.
 
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Can’t believe that’s how mentally weak this team is. This skid has been atrocious, but still felt like it was just a funk and it happens in basketball. There’s a lot of ball left and this isn’t the ncaa tournament.

Saying stuff like this to the press isn’t what contenders do. Sack up and get tougher
 
BRO! He said the BE refs are “second to none” :rolleyes:

Almost makes me wonder if he’s betting game spreads. Like how delusional can you possibly be.
Brando 1000000% had money on Seton Hall. He sounded so depressed when UConn went up double digits.
 
movie theater popcorn GIF
Keep it up.
Nice job with the triple-rhyme haiku today too.
 
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We have a collection of unaffiliated parts on the court.

We do not have a point guard. We do not really have a true shooting guard - Hawkins is something close, but he’s something of a catch and shoot type with very little else to offer. I don’t know what Newton, Diarra, Alleyne and California are at this point aside from just generally being misfit portal part rentals.

Karaban and Clingan are freshmen. Sanogo doesn’t know if he wants to be a power forward or a wing. Jackson is everything and nothing.

At this point, I’d just bench Karaban and play Clingan. Let Newton run the point - let Jackson just do whatever he can figure out to do. Remind Sanogo that the ball will not explode if he passes it back out. Stop telling Hawkins he’s Ray Allen when he’s not.
Karaban is the only remotely consistent piece to this bunch of misfits.
 
Who cares about who is coming in next year? We are only half way through this season. Let's fix the issues we have with the current team and get some W's. Need to execute set plays- especially in last 3 minutes, body up and box out on both sides, limit turnovers.
A few small changes will yield better results.
 
Trash team onto the next season

Hurley likes recruiting players who don’t know what offense is
Or boxing out; or defense played with one’s feet, not hands; or overplaying to force a dribbler to the middle, not giving baseline; or…………………………………ad nauseum.

And stop with the ref baiting. THEY did not blow a 14 point halftime lead.
 
A junior year Albie Mouring with his ability to hit threes while tightly guarded, along with his gaudy 48% 3pt shooting percentage, would be much appreciated on this current team.
 
He hit a big 3 tonight, and he can hit them when wide open. I'm more concerned with the fact that he has no touch around the basket. He has trouble making a layup, his floaters are just ugly.
This right here. I guess I would like him to be able to finish around the basket like a Colby Jones or hell even a Tyler Kolek who is a great passer
 
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It literally can’t get any worse so why not play Clingan and Sanogo at the same time. Clingan should be playing 25 minutes at the very least every game here on out
 
Pander was the wrong word.

I’ll try again. We know what you were getting at. And you do to. It’s cool. But don’t act like you didn’t.
oh please. bite me. it's a mild comment and you're using it as some sort of gotcha just to fit some narrative you have in your mind.
 
oh please. bite me. it's a mild comment and you're using it as some sort of gotcha just to fit some narrative you have in your mind.
Boooooooo lmaoo. Okay bud
 
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