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I don't know why there are so many discussions on Sedona Prince?
In ESPNW ranking she is #8, while our CWIII is #1 and ONO is #5.
If we can get her, great. Otherwise life is still moving forward.
 
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jonson said:
Although I usually agree with your posts, the "hands-off, West Coast hippie" comment seems to me condescending, as has been the case with a fair number of posts about Graves on this board. Yes, he likes to leave his players alone as much as possible during games, and, yes, he can be a funny guy, but his practices are, by all accounts, not easy, and Oregon didn't lead the nation in assist to turnover ratio with a coach who wasn't demanding or didn't pay attention to detail.
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To clarify, I didn't mean it pejoratively, and I also didn't mean to suggest he's not an excellent coach. He is, and he's one of my favorites in the country.

However: he lets Sabrina get away with stuff in games that Geno wouldn't, because he's just not as much of a type-a hardass, and he's much more "they will be who they will be" about his players. Remember when Ionescu had her meltdown after fouling out in the loss against UCLA and stormed into the locker room before the game was over? I cannot even imagine the wrath she would have faced if her coach was Geno. Tara also would have read her the riot act. But Graves took it totally in stride. Same when Ionescu was on the bench but took the ball anyway and attempted to shoot a three that resulted in a team technical for Oregon. "That's just Sabrina."

Indeed, Graves has self-described his approach as being, quite frankly, very West Coast hippie-like (and I say this as someone who grew up there, so I know!):
KELLY GRAVES: You saw that little wristband I’ve been wearing. I have the word on there ‘calmness’. I told the team that calmness comes from trusting your team.
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Again, I can't fathom a world where Geno wears a "calmness" bracelet. Doesn't mean he doesn't trust his team, and doesn't mean he isn't often calm, but that's just not Geno's style. Nor Tara's, Mulkey's, or Muffet's. NONE of them are wearing calmness bracelets in this life...

And let me clarify one more time: I don't think one kind of approach to coaching is categorically better than the other. They're different, which is why I said I think most recruits will clearly fit much better with one coach or the other, because their styles are so different. But they're both awesome people. If I could take three coaches out to drinks, Graves and Geno would be two of them.

However, I *do* think Geno is the better coach, and I think pretty much everyone who isn't sporting electric yellow and green around here thinks that.

Peace!
 
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Charliebball said:
UConn picked up PB who most likely will become one of the most significant players in WBB but that doesn't negate the fact that recruiting a power forward and or a second post player has recently been problematic.......it's quite a strange phenomenon..
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When I replied to the other poster I thought he or she was implying that UCONN wasn't keeping up with the recruiting battles. That wasn't the case. Are you arguing that they haven't? If not we have no disagreement.

Though I don't know what you mean by "problematic." You can't have 5 college all-americans in one year. And every team to a certain degree has issues that can be considered "problematic" - can't they?
 
Charliebball said:
some are too infatuated with height others are too fatuated with rankings.....they both count to some degree so give me a highly ranked tall player who can really ball and I'll be happy....
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Some people are infatuated with how many scholarships UConn offers:p
 
MikeBlue said:
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There it is folks!
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Not the news I was hoping to see this morning. Many of us were hoping to have Sedona join us for the next few years, and perhaps anchor our offense. It was not meant to be. You don’t lament over something or someone you never had.

I hope Geno had a plan B if Prince chose to go elsewhere. He can now implement that option. The big that is destined for UConn is on her way.
 
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DaBball said:
Big vacancy? Chavez, Winterburn, Shelley, Parrish, PaoPao, and Scherr is not a vacancy.
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Clark and Hailey Van Lith are better than any of the players listed above and have a great shot to start from day 1. Graves isnt afraid to put freshmen in big roles.
 
bballnut90 said:
Clark and Hailey Van Lith are better than any of the players listed above and have a great shot to start from day 1. Graves isnt afraid to put freshmen in big roles.
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Not disputing that, but there still isn't a vacancy with six guards, four 5-stars and two internationals.
 
Carnac said:
Not the news I was hoping to see this morning. Many of us were hoping to have Sedona join us for the next few years, and perhaps anchor our offense. It was not meant to be. You don’t lament over something or someone you never had.

I hope Geno had a plan B if Prince chose to go elsewhere. He can now implement that option. The big that is destined for UConn is on her way.
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I think Prince was plan B..........................now we wait and see if plan A works out.........................................
 
hoophuskee said:
When I replied to the other poster I thought he or she was implying that UCONN wasn't keeping up with the recruiting battles. That wasn't the case. Are you arguing that they haven't? If not we have no disagreement.

Though I don't know what you mean by "problematic." You can't have 5 college all-americans in one year. And every team to a certain degree has issues that can be considered "problematic" - can't they?
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problematic in the sense that UConn has failed to successfully recruit a quality big forward for a while now.............
 
Just read that Sedona Prince is applying for a waiver that would make eligible this year. Don’t know the ins and outs but she says she’s been told there is a good chance.
 
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Charliebball said:
I think Prince was plan B......now we wait and see if plan A works out...........
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When we didn't get Hanna Gusters (Baylor). I know they really wanted Gusters, but couldn't pry her out of Texas. SMH. I'm trying very hard to stay positive (there's got to be a rainbow at the end of this), but................................ :confused:

How hard is UConn looking at/pursuing 6'6" Kamilla Cardoso (Dowling Catholic H.S. IA) who is yet uncommitted?
 
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Charliebball said:
problematic in the sense that UConn has failed to successfully recruit a quality big forward for a while now...
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So would it be accurate to say "we need bigs!"?
 
DaBball said:
Not disputing that, but there still isn't a vacancy with six guards, four 5-stars and two internationals.
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Big vacancy was in reference to Moore/Ionescu leaving which means ample playing time opportunity for either one, plus they get to play with a stellar frontcourt and should be a strong final four contender for years to come. If either Hailey Van Lith or Clark chooses Oregon, my guess is they start from day 1.
 
Carnac said:
When we didn't get Hanna Gusters (Baylor). SMH. I'm trying very hard to stay positive, but....... :confused:

How hard is UConn looking at/pursuing 6'6" Kamilla Cardoso (Dowling Catholic H.S. IA) who is yet uncommitted?
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Someone posted a link to a game featuring Mir McLean, Angel Reese and Cardoso (and other notables) last week and I fast forwarded through it and Cardoso sure didn't inspire thoughts of Lobo, Wolters, Charles or Dolson. Seemed to drift around, couldn't guard Reese, and hardly had any points or rebounds. Size doesn't always translate to great play.
 
Scrutiner said:
Someone posted a link to a game featuring Mir McLean, Angel Reese and Cardoso (and other notables) last week and I fast forwarded through it and Cardoso sure didn't inspire thoughts of Lobo, Wolters, Charles or Dolson. Seemed to drift around, couldn't guard Reese, and hardly had any points or rebounds. Size doesn't always translate to great play.
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Thanks. Admittedly I don't know anything about Cardoso. But at 6'6", you know someone will offer her. Perhaps she's waiting for a better offer than those she already has. :rolleyes:

Can UConn afford to wait until 2021 to land a 6'5"+ post player? Quite a few 6-3 post players in this class.
6'5" Amari DeBerry is listed as a forward. I find it interesting that Oregon has 5 players on its 2019-2020 roster 6'4" or above. Head coach Kelly Graves and his staff have found something that works to lure BIGS to their program.
 
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oldude said:
Best of luck to Prince and the Ducks. I’ll still take the Huskies.
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With the anticipated "sophomore leap" we expect her to make, and the recent additions, I agree. I'd like to read more "positive" posts from UConn fans commenting on the potential of ONO, and the things she CAN do; instead of the things they think she can't do. Thank goodness for ONO. What would UConn's immediate future look like without her? As long as she stays healthy, we'll be fine.
 
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Carnac said:
With the anticipated "sophomore leap" we expect her to make, and the recent additions, I agree. I'd like to read more "positive" posts from UConn fans commenting on the potential of ONO, and the things she CAN do; instead of the things they think she can't do. Thank goodness for ONO. What would UConn's immediate future look like without her? As long as she stays healthy, we'll be fine.
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I'm one of ONO's biggest supporters..........................I think she may very will end up being one of UConn's best posts however she can't handle the rebounding and inside scoring load by herself nor can she guard more then one big body at a time............if she gets in foul trouble or injured there's not a whole lot of proven front court talent to spell her at this time...............
 
Charliebball said:
I'm one of ONO's biggest supporters......I think she may very will end up being one of UConn's best posts however she can't handle the rebounding and inside scoring load by herself nor can she guard more then one big body at a time..if she gets in foul trouble or injured there's not a whole lot of proven front court talent to spell her at this time.....
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Allow me to refer you to 3/4th of the ND game. ONO often had 2 or more bigs to contend with and did exceptionally well for her grade and game time. I thank @Carnac for his requesting positve words on Uconn kids. @Charliebball I respect your opinions and regularly request them, so this is not a DISS. I too am an ONO fan, but I'm also a CW, Megan, DANGER, Bent, Irwin fan. Those kids have a way of creeping to the heart.
Your admonition of not fouling is good for ALL as is the injury/health issues. I'm taking my most positive approach of any year with this group. With the current additions, and accepting GENO does not recruit duds, I think Evelyn and/or or along with Touly I think it's fair to say Uconn is OK. I still believe (first time ever) Uconn will get to the NC and beyond With out a Prince Charming.
 
Carnac said:
With the anticipated "sophomore leap" we expect her to make, and the recent additions, I agree. I'd like to read more "positive" posts from UConn fans commenting on the potential of ONO, and the things she CAN do; instead of the things they think she can't do. Thank goodness for ONO. What would UConn's immediate future look like without her? As long as she stays healthy, we'll be fine.
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Thanks 300,000,000 times
 
Scrutiner said:
Someone posted a link to a game featuring Mir McLean, Angel Reese and Cardoso (and other notables) last week and I fast forwarded through it and Cardoso sure didn't inspire thoughts of Lobo, Wolters, Charles or Dolson. Seemed to drift around, couldn't guard Reese, and hardly had any points or rebounds. Size doesn't always translate to great play.
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I don't know much about Cardoso but I'm fairly familiar with the group coaching at Uconn. Should she come aboard this jet stream to the NC she will be coached in the finer points and more rugged points of being an exceptional post. I refer you to Tina Charles as a Freshman/Soph. CD and staff were doing their magic and look at her now. If Cardoso is the least bit energized to play post--that crew will make it happen. Stef was a project, Jessica Moore, was a project---need I say more??
 
BroadwayVa said:
Allow me to refer you to 3/4th of the ND game. ONO often had 2 or more bigs to contend with and did exceptionally well for her grade and game time. I thank @Carnac for his requesting positve words on Uconn kids. @Charliebball I respect your opinions and regularly request them, so this is not a DISS. I too am an ONO fan, but I'm also a CW, Megan, DANGER, Bent, Irwin fan. Those kids have a way of creeping to the heart.
Your admonition of not fouling is good for ALL as is the injury/health issues. I'm taking my most positive approach of any year with this group. With the current additions, and accepting GENO does not recruit duds, I think Evelyn and/or or along with Touly I think it's fair to say Uconn is OK. I still believe (first time ever) Uconn will get to the NC and beyond With out a Prince Charming.
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I think the starting line up will be just fine.....................hopefully even better then fine.........................the jury is out on EA and BC for the upcoming season........................nothing would make me happier then watching the two of them spell ONO on occasion and add some nastiness and strength to the front court..................
 
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Charliebball said:
I'm one of ONO's biggest supporters......I think she may very will end up being one of UConn's best posts however she can't handle the rebounding and inside scoring load by herself nor can she guard more then one big body at a time..if she gets in foul trouble or injured there's not a whole lot of proven front court talent to spell her at this time.....
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Charlie, I meant that in a general sense. I wasn't directing that comment to any one individual, but the yard as a whole. Bummer. A six page thread with 136 posts, most of which were positive. I really thought we had a better than average chance of getting Prince. To quote Belichick: "It's on to Cincinnati."
 
Carnac said:
Charlie, I meant that in a general sense. I wasn't directing that comment to any one individual, but the yard as a whole. Bummer. A six page thread with 136 posts, most of which were positive. I really thought we had a better than average chance of getting Prince. To quote Belichick: "It's on to Cincinnati."
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yes it seemed like a great fit for both parties but apparently if you're 6'3" or taller UConn has less appeal then it does for the vertically challenged ........... ;)
 
TheFarmFan said:
Totally agree. Graves kind of feels like a more hands-off, West Coast hippie version of Walz - funny and charismatic guy who's a strong tactician but not the world's most determined player development coach, but he attracts enough to talent that that alone is a reason to come, and the talent pushes each other to be better. I suspect that formula works in a world where a lot of recruits come with considerable AAU & Team USA experience and feel they are more fully formed (rightly or wrongly). I guess I kind of feel like if you like the Oregon vibe then Geno is not going to be for you, and vice versa. (You know which style I prefer. ;))

And man, somehow even with Stanford landing 3 top 5 recruits for 2019-2021 (2019-#1 Jones, 2020-#3 Brink, and 2021-#4 Demetre) plus another couple top 20 forwards (Belibi and Prechtel) and a few top 30-40 guards (Jump and Van Gytenbeek), I still feel like we're barely holding on in the recruiting war against Oregon -- which is insane, because if you took all transfers out of the equation, Stanford has indisputably recruited as strong as any school in the country, and easily the strongest since the Wiggins/Appel/Pedersen/Pohlen/Ogwumike x2 streak.

Those road trips up north are going to be brutal for the foreseeable future...
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I think Belibi will be better than any big at Oregon. Wish we had a chance, but the child of 2 doctors wasn’t going anywhere but Stanford.
 
“I’ll be pushing for that waiver," she said in a phone interview. "I’ve heard from a few people that there’s a good chance that I’ll get it. They know the full story and know what’s been going on... If I do get that waiver, watch out, national championship here we come."


247sports.com

Sedona Prince "pushing" to play immediately at Oregon

Sedona Prince "pushing" to play immediately at Oregon
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This part I do not understand though. If Prince has to sit out this year due to her transfer she should only have three years of eligibility remaining. Unless I'm missing something.

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Regardless of when she plays her first minutes in Eugene, Prince will have four years to play at Oregon. She enrolled last year at Texas and used a medical redshirt.
 
Sluconn Husky said:
This part I do not understand though. If Prince has to sit out this year due to her transfer she should only have three years of eligibility remaining. Unless I'm missing something.

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Regardless of when she plays her first minutes in Eugene, Prince will have four years to play at Oregon. She enrolled last year at Texas and used a medical redshirt.
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Prince will get a medical redshirt for her freshman year, regardless of whether or not it occurs next year or the year after. She will either have 5 or 6 years to complete 4 years of eligibility, if she chooses to stay in college that long.
 
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