SEC 2019-2020 discussion

[DefenseBB]

Certainly possible. LSU has been down some but historically they are good WBB program.
I always liked it when they were called the Ben-Gals. It was a great play on words and incorporated the LSU mascot into it as well.

I just checked, Nikki Vargas is still the coach so not possible!

 

[Dwilliams02]

I'd never set LSU ceiling to winning the SEC. But making noise??? I've never seen Fargas disappoint with that lol. She's definitely got her team that top 4 for the SEC tournament a few times.

 

[stwainfan]

I love and respect your enthusiasm...however misguided it may be...
hopefully the free fall that your attendance has been in reverses and fans start coming back.

Thanks, I think a lot of fans are excited about this new coaching staff. I think the attendance will be better.

 

[SECbbfan24]

I'd never set LSU ceiling to winning the SEC. But making noise??? I've never seen Fargas disappoint with that lol. She's definitely got her team that top 4 for the SEC tournament a few times.

I think Nikki is toast if she doesn't have a big year this year. Speaking with other members close in the athletic department and the boosters recently, this is her put up or shut up year. She is in year 9 and has not made it out the first round of the NCAAT since 2014. Our last AD essentially gave up on having standards for the WBB program, this one is much different. If she doesn't have a good regular season w/ an NCAAT run that has us moving out the first round of the NCAAT, they are likely going to pull the plug. If the recruiting class for this year doesn't turn out as she hopes, its going to cut the rope even shorter.

 

[DaBball]

I think Nikki is toast if she doesn't have a big year this year. Speaking with other members close in the athletic department and the boosters recently, this is her put up or shut up year. She is in year 9 and has not made it out the first round of the NCAAT since 2014. Our last AD essentially gave up on having standards for the WBB program, this one is much different. If she doesn't have a good regular season w/ an NCAAT run that has us moving out the first round of the NCAAT, they are likely going to pull the plug. If the recruiting class for this year doesn't turn out as she hopes, its going to cut the rope even shorter.

And not making it out of the first round with Lewis, Jackson, and Mitchell was not a good look - way too much talent for mediocrity there.

 

[Dwilliams02]

I think Nikki is toast if she doesn't have a big year this year. Speaking with other members close in the athletic department and the boosters recently, this is her put up or shut up year. She is in year 9 and has not made it out the first round of the NCAAT since 2014. Our last AD essentially gave up on having standards for the WBB program, this one is much different. If she doesn't have a good regular season w/ an NCAAT run that has us moving out the first round of the NCAAT, they are likely going to pull the plug. If the recruiting class for this year doesn't turn out as she hopes, its going to cut the rope even shorter.

They need to pull the plug regardless.

 

[Dwilliams02]

And not making it out of the first round with Lewis, Jackson, and Mitchell was not a good look - way too much talent for mediocrity there.

Pointer, Aifuwa, and Mitchell is a good trio. So if she fighting for a spot with them. She's toast. Her teams has been way too talented lately.

 

[biobioprof]

And not making it out of the first round with Lewis, Jackson, and Mitchell was not a good look - way too much talent for mediocrity there.

You mean Raigyne Louis (formerly Moncrief), right?

 

[militarydog]

Women's Basketball Press Conference - 10/3/19

Video: Women's Basketball Press Conference - 10/3/19. Women's Basketball

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Coach Schaefer had a press conference today. Hopefully I was able to correctly attach the link.
Some of the highlights include his obvious excitement that Jordan Danberry was able to return for another season. He stated that she will be used in a variety of ways but he is hopeful that she can play the offguard but is ready to assist at the point if needed. He also stated that Mayh Taylor was the best help side defender and possibly the best on ball defender. This bodes well for her playing if she can not turn the ball over. However, she does need to improve on her free throws and outside shot.

Chloe Bibby is cleared for contact but simply needs to trust her knee. He stated that Promise Taylor basically had her ankle reconstructed similar to someone having their knee go through similar experience. He says that she has a difficult time getting through practice but that he is hopeful after next week she will be able to go through the entirety of a practice. He emphasized that she was their best low post threat and that he needed the others to gain more consistency. He would like to be able to sometimes play a front court lineup of P Taylor, J Carter and RvJackson in select situations.

He was especially complementary of Rickea Jackson but also emphasized the other newcomers were playing hard. Overall he gave the normal coach speak but tempered his expectations. Based on his comments I expect Jordan Danberry rarely leaves the floor but will swing between positions as others sub.

 

[Jmsdawg]

Women's Basketball Press Conference - 10/3/19

Video: Women's Basketball Press Conference - 10/3/19. Women's Basketball

hailstate.com

Coach Schaefer had a press conference today. Hopefully I was able to correctly attach the link.
Some of the highlights include his obvious excitement that Jordan Danberry was able to return for another season. He stated that she will be used in a variety of ways but he is hopeful that she can play the offguard but is ready to assist at the point if needed. He also stated that Mayh Taylor was the best help side defender and possibly the best on ball defender. This bodes well for her playing if she can not turn the ball over. However, she does need to improve on her free throws and outside shot.

Chloe Bibby is cleared for contact but simply needs to trust her knee. He stated that Promise Taylor basically had her ankle reconstructed similar to someone having their knee go through similar experience. He says that she has a difficult time getting through practice but that he is hopeful after next week she will be able to go through the entirety of a practice. He emphasized that she was their best low post threat and that he needed the others to gain more consistency. He would like to be able to sometimes play a front court lineup of P Taylor, J Carter and RvJackson in select situations.

He was especially complementary of Rickea Jackson but also emphasized the other newcomers were playing hard. Overall he gave the normal coach speak but tempered his expectations. Based on his comments I expect Jordan Danberry rarely leaves the floor but will swing between positions as others sub.

Thanks, Mildog, for the status update. Sure hope P. Taylor is able to go by season opener time. Based on how she played Tee when she was at Ole Miss, I believe she will be the most physical player we have.

 

[stwainfan]

 

[SECbbfan24]

And not making it out of the first round with Lewis, Jackson, and Mitchell was not a good look - way too much talent for mediocrity there.

I think what little support she had at that point was lost there. That was way too talented of a group to just get taken to the woodshed by CMU in the first round.

 

[stwainfan]

 

[cockhrnleghrn]

Those of us suffering through poor football seasons are especially ready for basketball season to get here.

 

[Gamecockfan77]

Scoreboard from opening night:

South Carolina 103 Alabama State 43

Texas A&M 78 Little Rock 35

Kentucky 67 Mt St Mary's 44

Tennessee 72 East Tennessee State 68

Missouri 97 Western Illinois 89 OT

LSU 83 New Orleans 49

Ole Miss 72 Miss Valley St 53

Florida 72 Grambling 65

Vanderbilt 88 Jacksonville 66

 

[Gamecockfan77]

Interesting line for Jordan Horston

4 pts, 6 asts, 4 rebs, 1 stl, 7 TOs, 4 fouls, 2/6 shooting in 15 minutes.

On one hand very productive, on the other hand looks like a lot of mistakes.

 

[stwainfan]

Interesting line for Jordan Horston

4 pts, 6 asts, 4 rebs, 1 stl, 7 TOs, 4 fouls, 2/6 shooting in 15 minutes.

On one hand very productive, on the other hand looks like a lot of mistakes.

I can say this. She looks like a superstar. It's her first game. She has a few things to work on as all freshman do. Right now the outside shots are not falling and fouls. Once she corrects those things look out.

 

[Gamecockfan77]

I can say this. She looks like a superstar. It's her first game. She has a few things to work on as all freshman do. Right now the outside shots are not falling and fouls. Once she corrects those things look out.

As you may have seen me post before, she was my favorite player in the class.

That line suggests she was extremely involved during her time in the game and that's good. But the turnovers, fouls, and shooting suggests it's not all there yet.

Looking forward to seeing her development.

 

[Gamecockfan77]

Arkansas - four 30+ point wins vs mid-major opponents. I will say they are living up to my billing of putting them in the dark horse contender group.

Kentucky - Have not exceeded 67 points in any of their four games thus far. Looking like scoring may be a problem for the Cats. I actually did not think they would contend as I thought they lost significant pieces, but I do think that some had them as a top group team because of their headliner and also I guess because of their coach.

Tennessee - a close call vs ETSU, but otherwise they have a win @ ND and two routs as expected. I think you'd have to say this is a promising start for the Vols, but losing Zay is a big blow, I think.

Miss State - I don't care who you are playing, scoring 120 points in back to back games is impressive in the box score.

Texas A&M - a one point win at Rice is concerning, but I'd have to say they are about as billed/expected.

South Carolina - It's looking like this team has elite defensive potential having given all of its opponents a very bad night. The offense remains a work in progress (though pretty explosive vs overmatched teams) and the youth certainly could be a concern as the calendar turns.

 

[DaBball]

Arkansas - four 30+ point wins vs mid-major opponents. I will say they are living up to my billing of putting them in the dark horse contender group.

Kentucky - Have not exceeded 67 points in any of their four games thus. Looking like scoring may be a problem for the Cats. I actually did not think they would contend as I thought they lost significant pieces, but I do think that some had them as a top group team because of their headliner and also I guess because of their coach.

Tennessee - a close call vs ETSU, but otherwise they have a win @ ND and two routs as expected. I think you'd have to say this is a promising start for the Vols, but losing Zay is a big blow, I think.

Miss State - I don't care who you are playing, scoring 120 points in back to back games is impressive in the box score.

Texas A&M - a one point win at Rice is concerning, but I'd have to say they are about as billed/expected.

South Carolina - It's looking like this team has elite defensive potential having given all of its opponents a very bad night. The offense remains a work in progress (though pretty explosive vs overmatched teams) and the youth certainly could be a concern as the calendar turns.

Arkansas will need to get hot from deep against teams like South Carolina, Mississippi State, and Tennessee due to their lack of size. Aliyah Boston and Jessika Carter (SEC POW) are to players who who will give them headaches based off of how they’ve been playing so far. Ramirez, Dungee, and Tolefree can fill it up, which makes them so dangerous.

 

[SECbbfan24]

It will be intresting to see what Chasity Patterson brings to the table for Kentucky. They are a strong defensive team but not enough scorers right now to compliment Howard!

 

[DaBball]

It will be intresting to see what Chasity Patterson brings to the table for Kentucky. They are a strong defensive team but not enough scorers right now to compliment Howard!

They'll also need a more efficient Howard, not the current one shooting 34% from the field and 28% from three. It's obviously super early, but both were ten percentage points higher last year.

 

[SECbbfan24]

They'll also need a more efficient Howard, not the current one shooting 34% from the field and 28% from three. It's obviously super early, but both were ten percentage points higher last year.

She seems to be pressing a bit right now with the lack of scorers around her. I think she eventually settles down and shoots better. I think Haines has done some good stuff for Kentucky and has potential to really help carry some of that load offensively. Paschal, Roper, Green and McKinney all need to step up on offense. We will see soon if Patterson can bring some offense to this Kentucky team.

 

[SECbbfan24]

Ole Miss has to be the worst team in the SEC.

Florida and Vandy aren't this incompetent

 

[wbball novice]

Looking at box scores. Does Miss State have some defensive issues. I see some pretty offensive point totals, but the opponent has a lot of scores as well.

 

[militarydog]

Looking at box scores. Does Miss State have some defensive issues. I see some pretty offensive point totals, but the opponent has a lot of scores as well.

The first three games it wasn’t an issue but he was livid after the Troy game. He said basically they had gotten too lazy on their effort on defense and were content to simply outscore Troy.

Each game he has played everyone and tried several different lineups. At one point in a couple of games he has played P Taylor and Y Morris, both true posts, together. Everything had been pretty good until last night.

However all that said this team still has a ways to go on defense. M Taylor and C Bibby are the only complete defenders. J Danberry is pretty good too but will have issues when matched against taller wings.

 

[Jmsdawg]

The first three games it wasn’t an issue but he was livid after the Troy game. He said basically they had gotten too lazy on their effort on defense and were content to simply outscore Troy.

Each game he has played everyone and tried several different lineups. At one point in a couple of games he has played P Taylor and Y Morris, both true posts, together. Everything had been pretty good until last night.

However all that said this team still has a ways to go on defense. M Taylor and C Bibby are the only complete defenders. J Danberry is pretty good too but will have issues when matched against taller wings.

I think Troy was the best team we have played and was amazed MSST dominated that game. If Vic was upset with that game he really is a perfectionist. I thought the team looked elite against Troy and saw team chemistry emerging.

 

[SimpleDawg]

I think Troy was the best team we have played and was amazed MSST dominated that game. If Vic was upset with that game he really is a perfectionist. I thought the team looked elite against Troy and saw team chemistry emerging.

Stop right there. It's Troy. Troy can't defend the lane at all. It's true that the difference between Troy and MSU is that Vic has taught his players how to use their bodies to finish around the rim, and his players were making layups from awkward positions all night. Troy is much more limited in their tricks - they can't do the same things back to us we're doing to them.

We made a very high percentage of our plays (some of them was regardless of opponent), but still....we had 9 top 100 recruits against their..... 0? The opponent is not even in the same stratosphere - you just can't claim we looked elite based on that game.

 

[Jmsdawg]

Stop right there. It's Troy. Troy can't defend the lane at all. It's true that the difference between Troy and MSU is that Vic has taught his players how to use their bodies to finish around the rim, and his players were making layups from awkward positions all night. Troy is much more limited in their tricks - they can't do the same things back to us we're doing to them.

We made a very high percentage of our plays (some of them was regardless of opponent), but still....we had 9 top 100 recruits against their..... 0? The opponent is not even in the same stratosphere - you just can't claim we looked elite based on that game.

I do not judge a team by how many top 100 player are on the team, I judge the team by how I perceive the players they have play the game. Based upon the game I saw, Troy has some good players and they were well coached. I do not even know their record to date but Troy players looked better to me than any other team we have played. Notice, I did not say MSST was an elite team but they looked elite in the way they played against Troy. We will not know how good this team is until they play an elite team and perform at the elite level against that opposition.

 

[DefenseBB]

The first three games it wasn’t an issue but he was livid after the Troy game. He said basically they had gotten too lazy on their effort on defense and were content to simply outscore Troy.

Each game he has played everyone and tried several different lineups. At one point in a couple of games he has played P Taylor and Y Morris, both true posts, together. Everything had been pretty good until last night.

However all that said this team still has a ways to go on defense. M Taylor and C Bibby are the only complete defenders. J Danberry is pretty good too but will have issues when matched against taller wings.

Considering Troy was by far the toughest opponent MSU has played this year at #125, compared to the others, yeah, Troy is a scoring machine. Next up is #229 Jackson so once again we learn nothing from Vic. However after that come the Mad Bombers of Marquette with their #19 rating on the Marquette court so MSU better be ready. I also must quibble with @SCGamecock that scoring 120 points against the likes of #229 Murray St whose best player transferred and sits on our bench, (proving that against real D1 teams most mid majors can’t compete) With all the games AT HOME, isn’t proving anything. I hadn’t noticed that Vic hasn’t played any away games yet-even more of a disgrace-yes, DISGRACE! This team is over rated and I will now be rooting hard for virtually all SEC teams to beat them ESPECIALLY Tennessee.
Come on Vic, prove to us you’re worthy of this “top coach” mantle so many want to give you. Prove it by playing real teams on their court!
BTW Does anyone know where his daughter Blair is announcing? Would have much rather her announcing the UConn game last night over the Marist alum.