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Towney007 said:
Barely 10 lbs. separate David Ortiz and Pablo. So he's a , too. Boog Powell. Miguel Cabrera carries the exact same playing weight.
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So height matters nothing? Cabrera is 6' 5", and Sandoval is 5' 10".
 
Towney007 said:
Yet here you are, posting on a message board worrying about whether a baseball player is fat or not. Glad that's not my money.

player's weight on the internet, so you should conceivably be able to read up on what a metric in baseball is, Mr. Gekko.
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Yet here you are with me arguing just the same. And I'm glad my money isn't invested in your cute collegiate league team. 5th out of 6 teams last year and last place in 2014? I can assure I'm much better at my job than you are at yours.

And now I get while you were defending Sandoval's waistline. You might want to tighten up the privacy settings on your Facebook page, Tubby. You look like the love child of Ricky Gervais and Zack Galafinakis.
 
So far this spring the Panda is 0 for 8 with two errors. Hard to believe with all the effort he put in.
 
You've taken Red Sox "ignorance" to a level beyond expectations Towney, congrats on that. Now pat yourself on the back, admit you're an idiot when it comes to this topic, and move on. I'm saving you from yourself. ;)
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Excellent job trying to refute any of my points.

So height matters nothing? Cabrera is 6' 5", and Sandoval is 5' 10".
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In this case, no - but again. Pablo's hit when he was fat. He hasn't hit when he's fat. Probably because skill - rather than french fries. I know french fries well.

Yet here you are with me arguing just the same. And I'm glad my money isn't invested in your cute collegiate league team. 5th out of 6 teams last year and last place in 2014? I can assure I'm much better at my job than you are at yours.
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First of all - it's hilarious that I got under your skin that much that you took so much time to try and find out more about me. I'm flattered, really. But I mean if a fat guy on a hoops forum talking baseball is going to rattle you that bad, your underpants must be pretty colorful bell to bell on a given day on the stock exchange.

If you're going to do digging, dig harder man, it's not hard. You're a money man. This is supposed to be your thing. Don't omit two national championships on me. I'm fat now, but once upon a time I danced on rainbows and women washed clothes on my abs.

And working in baseball isn't being a stock broker. It's not like you get to call yourself an expert by knowing tomorrow why the things you predicted didn't happen today. I'll own my record all day. But I've also got a record. You don't. Also have 24 kids drafted in two years and we've got six in the Majors. You know who else has a similar track record in college baseball?

So unless you've got something to say about Pablo Sandoval, you can go back to selling insurance policies to rednecks in their kitchens. Speaking of kitchens, being fat and food - this nutritionist also disagrees with you.

And now I get while you were defending Sandoval's waistline. You might want to tighten up the privacy settings on your Facebook page, Tubby. You look like the love child of Ricky Gervais and Zack Galafinakis.
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Oof - fat jokes. Hey - if your wife would stop feeding me a buttered biscuit as a reward for every time I stuffed her, I'd be fine.

But honestly. I didn't say Pablo was good or would bounce back. I said he didn't suck due to his weight. He sucks due to his actual skill not being very conducive to being good. I'm still trying to figure out why that's so incomprehensibly hard for you to choke down. You haven't really tried to refute it - other than complaining that the actual metrics that point out why his performance was bad were too hard for you to understand. I told you. They're not hard. Figure out what they are and it makes sense.

There are lots of guys who suck, largely because they're... large. Pablo however, isn't one of them.

So far this spring the Panda is 0 for 8 with two errors. Hard to believe with all the effort he put in.
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Oh boy, Spring Training. Harbinger of so many things to come.

How'd Jackie Bradley's .419 average in Spring Training work out in 2013? But here we are. Citing spring training statistics.
 
Wow you go away for a week and think maybe someone will look at their posts and say "holy crap I'm an embarrassment to myself" instead they reach new freakin' heights.

Oh by the way Deep's not married, do your homework next time biscuit dude.;)
 
Don't flatter yourself. It took a total of 3 clicks to be on your Facebook page. It wasn't like breaking into the Pentagon. And if you re-read any post I've put in this thread, I never said Sandoval stinks because of his weight. I said he showed up looking fat and that, after last season and the size of his contract, it gives off the appearance that he doesn't care.

Oh, and remember, I've seen what you look like. You're not stuffing anything other than your own face.
 
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Oh by the way Deep's not married, do your homework next time biscuit dude.;)
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It's and internet forum and he says enough dumb things for me to not have to validate it with facebook photos. Research isn't needed.

Don't flatter yourself. It took a total of 3 clicks to be on your Facebook page. It wasn't like breaking into the Pentagon. And if you re-read any post I've put in this thread, I never said Sandoval stinks because of his weight. I said he showed up looking fat and that, after last season and the size of his contract, it gives off the appearance that he doesn't care.
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No, you don't try to get to squiggle out.

I explained why his skill set had dropped off - which your retort was to basically say "Eh, I don't care about that because I want to complain about his fat' and drop a calculator joke. To which *of course* I was a dick back to you. That you really didn't like, so you decided to peep my Facebook, make some fat jokes and blow a hissy fit. But whatever. I promise to stop being a huge dick if you do.

To the point:

said he showed up looking fat and that, after last season and the size of his contract, it gives off the appearance that he doesn't care.
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But he clearly does, as indicated by a lot of things - and actually *being in shape* is much more important than *appearing to be.*

Take for example - this guy:

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Who looks in shape. But clearly is not.

He started off 0 for 8. He's been hitting .363 since with 2 doubles and a HR. Even reached on an infield hit where he beat out the throw. Neither really mean anything. It's spring training. But it appears he's settled in just fine. Defensively - whatever. He's always been wildly inconsistent even though for some reason he's got a reputation for being pretty good. He's a 1.1 career DRS. That's kind of mediocre. He was atrocious last year - but was also *far* better than he had any right to be in 2011, as well. He's always been a -3.0-3.0 kind of guy. I expect he'll be more of that.
 
Nope. Here's the only comment I made on Sandoval here. I'm not "squiggling out" of anything.

"This is all great stuff. I mean, I have no idea about his wFB or wFT...but don't you just think a guy that signed this contract and stunk as bad as he did last year should "look" like he's trying to show up to camp a little more serious about his job? Leave your calculator at home."

Nowhere did I say his weight would hinder his productivity in any way. Sorry, chubbs.
 
"Over the course of three days, Farrell has sent a $72.5 and a $95 million contract to the bench in order to start two players making a combined $1.12 million." Johnny Carey, CBS Boston

Who takes the heat for that? The GM? The manager? The players? That a lot of sunk costs. No mind you, as a Yankees fan, I know the team I root for made very bad decisions (ARod!) and wonder how they could continue to operate. But this one is really going to be ugly.
 
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Fishy said:
You have to be stone stupid to believe that this guy worked out 12 hours a day, six days a week.

There is zero chance that happened.

Look at him. After 72 hours a week working out, he should look like Mo Farrah. Instead he looks like he ate Mo Farrah.
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Dammit, I agree with Fishy. At best it looks like he worked out 12 hours a month. At best. A disaster of a FA signing, and the writing was on the wall at the very beginning.
 
boba said:
"Over the course of three days, Farrell has sent a $72.5 and a $95 million contract to the bench in order to start two players making a combined $1.12 million." Johnny Carey, CBS Boston

Who takes the heat for that? The GM? The manager? The players? That a lot of sunk costs. No mind you, as a Yankees fan, I know the team I root for made very bad decisions (ARod!) and wonder how they could continue to operate. But this one is really going to be ugly.
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I wonder how his wFT and wFB will suffer as a result of this move.
 
This thread is fun. Normally you don't find a full scale moran like Towney on this board. Normally you have to go to the hoops board to find this level of moranity (a word I just made up, bwt)
 
beakumhawks said:
This thread is fun. Normally you don't find a full scale moran like Towney on this board. Normally you have to go to the hoops board to find this level of moranity (a word I just made up, bwt)
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Royals looked phenomenal today...
 
I can't believe it took me until two days after opening day to read this classic message board thread.

I'm now rooting equally either for Sandoval to emerge svelte & carve up the league or to fall into a vat of lemon meringue pie.
 
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Never has one human being lost an argument so convincingly....
 
I found video of Pablo's spring training checkup:

 
The rumor now is that Panda will be traded to the Padres for James Shields. I can't see the Padres doing that though. They are dumb, but not that dumb.
 
beakumhawks said:
The rumor now is that Panda will be traded to the Padres for James Shields. I can't see the Padres doing that though. They are dumb, but not that dumb.
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If they do, you just know Panda will suddenly hit .310, remember how to field and generally be what he was in SF.
 
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Sandoval put on 15 day DL for fake injury. We all know why.
 
zyron said:
Sandoval put on 15 day DL for fake injury. We all know why.
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Sometimes when you want to move a player, you play him and showcase him. The Sox just put the Panda on the DL. I wonder what that means.
 
60'sfan said:
Sometimes when you want to move a player, you play him and showcase him. The Sox just put the Panda on the DL. I wonder what that means.
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It means he's an out of shape malcontent who won't listen and is eroding the team unity and manager/GM's authority. Assuming there is no clause in his contract requiring him to be in suitable physical condition to be a professional athlete, the team's only recourse is to take-away playing time and even roster spot and also shame him into getting himself in playing condition. Or to trade him next to nothing plus continue to pay likely 75% of that salary for 16,17,18 and 19. Quickly turning into a Carl Crawford situation.
 
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